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TigerWolfe

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The getting her pregnant is what's deemed immoral, that would make pretty much everything immoral.
Is it though?

I've always thought the immoral aspect of necrophilia is the whole desecration of a corpse/lack of consent thing.

If we raise her body and put her back inside, she's now sapient and can consent... And if her soul's back inside her body it's not really a corpse anymore either.
 
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Old Grumpy Wolf

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And if her soul's back inside her body it's not really a corpse anymore either.
I mean, technically. I really don't think a necromancer can give actual life back to a dead body. So, she'd still be, technically of course, an animated corpse. A sentient zombie. One who can think for herself and give consent.
 

TigerWolfe

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I mean, technically. I really don't think a necromancer can give actual life back to a dead body. So, she'd still be, technically of course, an animated corpse. A sentient zombie. One who can think for herself and give consent.
Depends on the magic system, in some systems all healing magic falls under necromancy, so even full resurrections are considered necromantic.
 
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S1nsational

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Is it though?

I've always thought the immoral aspect of necrophilia is the whole desecration of a corpse/lack of consent thing.

If we raise her body and put her back inside, she's now sapient and can consent... And if her soul's back inside her body it's not really a corpse anymore either.
Ok, lets all reset for a second. It's BHG's Wife who thinks the getting Anya pregnant is immoral. We're all being left to speculate on what could cause her to think that all without knowing a thing about the woman, and so we're focusing on in game. I'll mention an example as I recognize many people here from other games, many of us here play incest games. Incest, even just in games, is still seen as immoral and incestuous pregnancies even more so, regardless of the consent or willingness of the parties involved. Say Mrs BHG is against incest, she deems it immoral fictional or otherwise, many of us here would disagree. So getting Anya pregnant could be a similar situation, or it might be that we'll stop and go "No, she was right. Getting Anya pregnant like this would be fucked up".

That said, yes part of the problem with necrophilia has been and is the lack of consent thing, it's also been seen as defiling/disrespecting the corpse. Not to mention the influence of various religions.

Not to start a fight again, but I don't count sentient undead as actually dead and thus not as necrophilia.
 

Old Grumpy Wolf

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Depends on the magic system, in some systems all healing magic falls under necromancy, so even full resurrections are considered necromantic.
That's a bit of a stretch, isn't it? We already saw what happened with the other corpse. Do we actually want to risk that again? I know I don't. As much as I hate saying it, I think Lily is our only chance at some type of resurrection for our dear Anya.

Ok, lets all reset for a second. It's BHG's Wife who thinks the getting Anya pregnant is immoral. We're all being left to speculate on what could cause her to think that all without knowing a thing about the woman, and so we're focusing on in game. I'll mention an example as I recognize many people here from other games, many of us here play incest games. Incest, even just in games, is still seen as immoral and incestuous pregnancies even more so, regardless of the consent or willingness of the parties involved. Say Mrs BHG is against incest, she deems it immoral fictional or otherwise, many of us here would disagree. So getting Anya pregnant could be a similar situation, or it might be that we'll stop and go "No, she was right. Getting Anya pregnant like this would be fucked up".

That said, yes part of the problem with necrophilia has been and is the lack of consent thing, it's also been seen as defiling/disrespecting the corpse. Not to mention the influence of various religions.

Not to start a fight again, but I don't count sentient undead as actually dead and thus not as necrophilia.
You're correct. We don't know. Let me concede my previous point about sentient undead for a moment. For Anya's sake. We all care what happens with and to her. We don't want an actual animated corpse version of her, because that brings in it's own set of moral issues, even if we reciprocate her perceived feelings about her. So, as I said above, Lily is the only chance Anya has for a somewhat normal life. I'm also sure Lily could make her look exactly(Or close enough so it wouldn't matter much) as she did before her death. A clone so to speak. So, then instead of us raising her from the dead and creating an animated corpse/zombie, we would just be pulling her soul out of that hellish place(Limbo?) she's in and placing her in a living, breathing body.

If the body is actually alive, which it will/should be, there's no immorailty in my opinion. So, what other issues would that bring to the table? None. Or maybe some. But not the issues we are faced with without a living body. I mean the same questions about cloning in the rl could be raised about this idea also.
 

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I'm laughing here reading all these theories on why a preg Anya might be immoral, because I'm imagining BHG also reading them and thinking stuff like: "Damn, never even thought of that as a possibility before" or "They want to put her back in her old body and impregnate her?"
 
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I'm laughing here reading all these theories on why a preg Anya might be immoral, because I'm imagining BHG also reading them and thinking stuff like: "Damn, never even thought of that as a possibility before" or "They want to put her back in her old body and impregnate her?"
It's been fun to read for sure. It's nothing I haven't thought of but it is surprising to see the options people want.

I will say there's one person who nailed it though. They got it 99% right, they only missed one small detail. I was really impressed by that.
 

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It's been fun to read for sure. It's nothing I haven't thought of but it is surprising to see the options people want.

I will say there's one person who nailed it though. They got it 99% right, they only missed one small detail. I was really impressed by that.
That sucks, only one fan theory makes sense for immorality of pregnancy and I don't like it.
 

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It's been fun to read for sure. It's nothing I haven't thought of but it is surprising to see the options people want.

I will say there's one person who nailed it though. They got it 99% right, they only missed one small detail. I was really impressed by that.
It's not surprising. -tongue in cheek- How long you been on the internet? :p Your on a site of Stories of Porn, Kinks, Fetishes, & the Internet.

You shouldn't be surprised everyone wants to shove their virtual dick into everything and then you get kink, fetish, etc.. crowd that wants kids(I will just put fingers in my ears & go lalalala on why). But at end of the day, they are all horny dudes that wanna violently masturbate over & over. Have the Power, Big Alpha Stud Fantasy. They wanna feel like they are Big Dick Daddies and everyone, be it Male, Female, Trans, Monster Girl/Boy, that Goat over there, etc.. wants them, only them, and want to give their entire free will to them.

I mean...that's what I've seen here & everywhere else on these interwebs through-out the 35yrs I've been on it.(I'm 47).
 

JJDrakken

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A mere pup.......
I was on internet in 1988. The actual internet started in 1983, but obviously was limited to Gov, Scientists, Some colleges, Military. Very very few home use. Was not till 1993 that the general public really started getting the internet, it's uptick didn't really start till bout late 90s, been growing ever since.

Not a pup in that regard, :p Less your commenting on my actual age :p
 
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I remember bitnet, and hell, usenet. I have set up uucp. My walker is around here somewhere. :sneaky:
Ahhh... the time when games using AGT or *ghasp* HTML TADS where gleaming state of the art... when 'Boffing both Generations' was released to those happy few... when three lines of text where a steaming sex scene... when ASSM was something mainstream for my fellow pervs of those days...
I miss those days when I was talking with my good buddy George Washington about the newest Adult Interactive Fiction games released. :p
 
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