Ren'Py Deviant Anomalies [v0.9.5] [MoolahMilk]

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The dev suffered a burnout and is currently recovering. He should be back soon after ironing the last details for 0.9 and the upcoming season 2
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this is sad.
i love the game.
it could potentially be in my top 10 if done right and completed, even without the sandbox. i hope dev can recover and back on track.

i love the game but i know something amiss when dev skip contents like the casino "arc", continue with the church one and just roll with it when casino arc story correlated with church one

For me the skipped content creates void, confusion and raise suspicion that the project planning is, sorry to say, a bit messy and there were definitely issues with scope and duration. TBH dev could choose not to create correlation between the two arcs but the two arcs seemingly planned to be interconnected.

Even if casino arc is just extras, it seemingly skipped because the scope is too big for dev and if they continue by introducing this arc, it would consume their efforts and it will take several iteration/increments to finish this arc til they can finally continue back on track with church arc

I assume dev thought if they continue with casino arc none of these arcs going to be finished to meet the deadline of 1.0, a milestone that seems dev set where a single big arc/season is finished

So rather than getting into casino arc, dev chose to skipped it and introduced much more fun contents that already in midway of story rather than introducing new beginning of casino arc story, continue with church one and get players to try the game features like the interrogation that seems to be the core feature of the game, and hopefully reach the end of a single arc.

Personally, the skipped casino arc don`t feel like creating a plot hole or having unique story flow like flashbacks that implemented in some other avn, but its literally skipped from a progressive story. it gave me confusion as i played. Thats when dev can actually tweak the story to make the story progression less awkward.

All in all, my suggestion is,
if sandbox become the core issue I honestly think the game can be salvaged and reworked into fully linear visual novel style with minimum or no sandbox element at all. Ofc it can still introduce branching story paths but now with less freedom and no grinding. it may sacrifice the "game" aspect but if its what hinder dev to deliver the game progress on time as planned, it will ruin the project itself in a long run. Imo the repetitive grinds, freedom of choices and questing system can flexibly adapt to linear style story, the game will definitely lost huge glamour of player choices and freedom but if its what it takes to save the game, the project, the trust of your patrons, turning the game into fully linear visual novel style is something i would do as dev. Even without the sandbox or mini games, i know i personally will still enjoy the avn. i guess it may take two or more iteration, with full intention of rework, there wont be nothing new, some patrons might leave due to the big changes, but for the long run this decision will save the game from scope creep and patron disappointments.

So in short, if i were dev i will try to save the avn by focusing on story and less focusing on game aspect or extras like mini games. Set a feasible goals each iteration and keep in touch with patrons or anyone who support the game.

i know of another game doing a rework and performed better development progression, lets say Love Season/farmers dream from dev musex. the game went from rpg style game with rpgm engine and turn into fully renpy linear visual novel style. It could deliver more story content even though with drawbacks of no more game aspects. i could still enjoy the new style avn, i even thought its better because there were more contents delivered each increment. unfortunately the dev lost focus and busy with his sides project now :/

whatever the real reason of the delay, i wish you good luck~

 

[HawkCantfly]

I send message on 1/18 on patreon to moolah and still no reply , I don't think he will update this month...

 

[zeph19]

Is there still no progress with Mia and Sophia!? After two years!? They haven't just taken a backseat they're in the trunk at the bottom of a lake!

Depends on how you define progress, I guess. You can tickle a sparsely clothed Sophia and grope Mia's tits, I think. That's about it.

 

[Lordisigler]

We should send all devs to do work in a farm. There they will learn to be diligent in their work. No farmer ever gave an excuse for not doing his fields. Be it a cold, covid, tornado, fortnite, grandma died, GPU died or hemorrhoid. They will still get up at 4h30am to do maintenance on their tractor.

Whatever put breads on your table, do it as a farmer do his fields. Diligently.

 

[Shark_inA-chiar]

I don't know how Moolah can talk about creating "the perfect game" at the rate it's going. He's been at it for almost 2.5 years now and the first case we're working on isn't even done yet. There are 0 scenes with Mia, Sophie and Moon. Sage, well, one scene a year or so ago and you can't really call that progress, because since then, that character's been shelved and forgotten. Heard there's a party going on, too, that hasn't been finished yet. (which was, as far as I remember, only put into the game to get the coomers to quiet down)

Of course he'll "burn out". He's in a fucking hole. The scope of this game is way beyond what a single dude will be able to achieve (in his free time? He used to do this alongside his job). It's just too much. Too many construction sites to work on, that happen simultaneously in the game now.

The writing alone is difficult as fuck for this game. Writing a detective story alone is difficult. Now add 5 main love interests with all their backgrounds, raison d'êtres, kinks, personalities and weave them in. Now add supernatural elements, like the snow storms, monsters, and girls that can turn invisible. There's also the dead parents. Did you guys know that the mom is supposed to appear at some point, too? Somewhere, Moolah said she's dead - FOR NOW.

Moolah's a fucking baller.

- The story is fucking interesting
- The renders look *chef's kiss*
- The coding is great. What you can do during sex scenes with all those buttons flying around is unique.

But man, he's bad at planning shit out. Because anyone with a brain could've seen this exact scenario happen from a mile away. The patreon model is just so suboptimal for this kind of game. People support you to make progress, and lots of people simply follow the development with great anticipation. How much time will have gone by until *my* (or yours, whoever bothers reading this) favorite girl will finally see meaningful progress, repeatables and have long standing questions answered?

My advice would be to relieve pressure where you have to. Make a great game, not the perfect game. A great game doesn't need these huge events that take 4 updates to finish, or more. Connect strands. None of the girls are involved with the detective work, or that party (yet?). That is, of course, if the amount of money the game makes is important to you. People aren't waiting for George R.R. Martin to finish his books, and they will only keep getting more and more frustrated with what's happening right now until they stop bothering.

And if money doesn't matter and it's your story you want to tell in the perfect game you want to make, then be open about it. Stop making deadlines and asking for feedback, because clearly, these things don't matter to you. Keep the patreon running, tell people that you're doing what the fuck you want and that money isn't an incentive for you to deliver timely updates or the kind of updates people are hoping to get. And tell them it might take 6, 8, 11 or maybe even 15 years to finish this story. But will you yourself be motivated to keep working on this for that long?

i would say to that lot of VN makers make their first game to complicated or the story's too detailed for the first game doesn't help at all and leads to burn out of axeing the VN

 

[wappy]

How long update this game

 

[Temphere69]

How long update this game

Never.

 

[wappy]

How sad this is my favourite games at all

Never.

 

[Jabami Yumeko]

I smell ABANDONED

 

[Rouruki]

I smell ABANDONED

Wait, What!? What did I miss? What's the issue about this game?

 

[kumenl0l]

Wait, What!? What did I miss? What's the issue about this game?

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There were some random chatter about other games, but this is the gist of it.
I don't know what you guys think, but I'm seeing a "woe is me, gamedev hard" pattern emerge.

And unless I remember incorrectly,

Spoiler: THIS

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was the whole years update production. Which were two buggy as hell updates with literally only side content in it.
Meanwhile,

Spoiler: his Patreon almost doubled since last year.

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But yeah, just hang tight, speed is my energy, games are bipolar. Whatever the fuck that means.
Tl;dr: don't get scammed.

this is the issue. the last anyone heard of the dev was a month ago.

I never thought i'd say this, but here it goes: at this rate fucking MILFY CITY will get an update before DA.

 

[dumbo10]

this is the issue. the last anyone heard of the dev was a month ago.

I never thought i'd say this, but here it goes: at this rate fucking MILFY CITY will get an update before DA.

lol.
if anyone got used to have faith for long abandoned icstor milfycity, have faith over moolah DA is piece of cake.
those who still have faith for icstor got used to be ghosted, they still visiting the thread and manage to keep it on f95 trending 1st/2nd page every single time i visited this site even when the game is abandoned, which makes me think f95 trending is broken, and idk nor care what are they babbling about really lol
icstor is proly one among masters of delay and ghosting dev, moolah still had a lot to learn from them
but i doubt moolah will have the same amount of faithful patron that will keep supporting em even when they dont deliver
personally story wise i prefer DA over milfy city

 

[madelein-00]

damn for a second i thought there was a new update

 

[kumenl0l]

lol.
if anyone got used to have faith for long abandoned icstor milfycity, have faith over moolah DA is piece of cake.
those who still have faith for icstor got used to be ghosted, they still visiting the thread and manage to keep it on f95 trending 1st/2nd page every single time i visited this site even when the game is abandoned, which makes me think f95 trending is broken, and idk nor care what are they babbling about really lol
icstor is proly one among masters of delay and ghosting dev, moolah still had a lot to learn from them
but i doubt moolah will have the same amount of faithful patron that will keep supporting em even when they dont deliver
personally story wise i prefer DA over milfy city

So do I, but lets be real: the story of DA hasn't made any real progress in the last 1-1.5 years. Aside from the one long scene with the mom, its been all random sidechicks and sandbox reworks.

 

[dumbo10]

So do I, but lets be real: the story of DA hasn't made any real progress in the last 1-1.5 years. Aside from the one long scene with the mom, its been all random sidechicks and sandbox reworks.

yeah i gotta revise it, DA story can potentially be better if done right
if both compared in which both are in the right and proper state of development, i would still prefer DA story wise
i prefer DA update over milfycity
oot, imo milfy city story got meh after the intro of twin and mc involved with his father business, post her older sis(?) (maybe not default as i definitely applied incest if there is) the story got bland and ive lost interest
tho sandbox wise milfy city win with their simple generic sandbox mechanic while DA try to do somethin bigger
thats why like i said before DA might suffer from scope creep due to sandbox development, the game aspect, it takes their efforts and hinders the story from progressing, and from an avn i personally want story more than game

 

[guangl5]

upd upd upd

 

[zeph19]

story wise i prefer DA over milfy city

It's not even a question which story is better, since Milfy City barely has any while DA struggles to squeeze in enough of it into every update while also trying to be a porn game.

 

[☾♄คгφη]

I don't want to be mean, but seriously, has there been any news about the game since the last post on his Patreon page two months ago? I didn't even find a post in which to announce that it canceling the payment for these months without activity and that the project is suspended indefinitely... I personally get the impression that he actually doesn't like to continue the project anymore and is looking for excuses. When you get money to make a product, my opinion is that you don't have to look for excuses... If you are employed and receive a salary, you cannot tell your employer that you are not coming to work this month because you lack inspiration or that you don't feel like it. When you start a project like this, you have to consider everything that can go wrong and think about whether you can finish it or not. Such behavior certainly does not attract investors.

 

[NinjaHanzo]

I don't want to be mean, but seriously, has there been any news about the game since the last post on his Patreon page two months ago? I didn't even find a post in which to announce that it canceling the payment for these months without activity and that the project is suspended indefinitely... I personally get the impression that he actually doesn't like to continue the project anymore and is looking for excuses. When you get money to make a product, my opinion is that you don't have to look for excuses... If you are employed and receive a salary, you cannot tell your employer that you are not coming to work this month because you lack inspiration or that you don't feel like it. When you start a project like this, you have to consider everything that can go wrong and think about whether you can finish it or not. Such behavior certainly does not attract investors.

The problem is some people are looking at Incstor and thinking "If he can go away with it, maybe me too"

Patreons are the one who need to move and punish this kind of behaviour.

 

[kumenl0l]

The problem is some people are looking at Incstor and thinking "If he can go away with it, maybe me too"

Patreons are the one who need to move and punish this kind of behaviour.

Apparently the dev made a post on Patreon.
I'm not a sub, so can't post it here, we need to wait for a poor paypig a sub for it.