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Segnbora

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Aug 30, 2017
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He is not a psych... well maybe a little... ok he is a psychopath, but he is not doing that out of the blue.
x'D

I mean, Jack the Ripper had reasons...

After I finished the current version (which was also the first time I'd encountered the game), I was idly musing — and please don't take this as a suggestion that the game needs to be changed — about whether or not the serum/mind control aspect adds anything to the game. The answer is: at the moment, it really doesn't. In fact, it's a net negative. This would be a vastly less creepy game if the MC was just a master at finding and subverting submissives. However, I assume there are events yet to come that will bring the mind control storyline back into prominence. Or at least I hope there will be.
I toyed with the idea to include some choices about it at the start.
Like those who really like to play the bad guy could play a more or less stereotypical vilain or on the contrary a good guy forced to do bad stuff for the sake of humanity (but not without enjoying it in the process).
Eh. I wouldn't. You'd have to go way out of your way to construct a morally justifiable reason for drugging and sex-enslaving your own students (and your boss), and the fact is that rewriting all the zillions of BDSM/sex scenes with a tinge of remorse sounds awful and not worth the effort. I'm fine with him being a psychopath, whether or not he gets his comeuppance. It's the best BDSM-themed game (at least in Western style) that I've ever seen, and I'm willing to roll my eyes and ignore the fact that I'm eagerly cosplaying a monster.

I guess that makes us all psychopaths?
 

Daulas

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Sep 5, 2018
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@FinsitOtherwise, it may be a good idea to add a narrator warning about incoming hard forks like that one. QoL >>> intact fourth wall.
Honestly, I don't think there would be much fourth-wall breaking if, when offered the choices, we had some text between brackets next to them warning it's an exclusive choice.

And, on the other hand, it would be really helpful to avoid doing the same thing over and over again expecting some action to re-activate the second option (I lost quite some time with Lola trying to get her back to the gym to inject the pink serum, trying to increase her affection and corruption to get to that point, before I decided to look into this forum if it was a bug or a feature).

Seeing as how the girls' paths are quite parallel, once you are aware of the hard forks, you can always create separate saves to explore them (it's what I did with Lola).

However, I would like to point out (not sure if it was done, but with so many messages, I have a hard time checking) that, once Lola has been injected the green (morphing) serum, she is still with her previous body in the stripclub. Not only should she be different, but, depending on the progression of the Kara/Lola scenes, she should also react differently during the private dance.

Also, the text about Lola on the phone should be updated, whatever serum we use, to reflect how much she has changed: she is no longer hostile towards the MC.
 

Gary Bertrand

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Sep 30, 2017
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i cant continue with yuki i gave her the injection and next day pop up says i should check on her. Her hair changed and i dont get any option to talk or train her any more i just keep getting a pop up saying i should check on her
 

Finsit

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Jun 2, 2017
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i cant continue with yuki i gave her the injection and next day pop up says i should check on her. Her hair changed and i dont get any option to talk or train her any more i just keep getting a pop up saying i should check on her
Look at the SMS.
 

Don_Kiwi

Newbie
Mar 29, 2018
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Thank you Mister Spelling, Lord of Grammar. When you can speak my native language as well as I speak English you can school me, otherwise don't.
I pity no one, I sympathize.
Thank you for assuming that English is my native language, however that has nothing to do with the discussion, nor the game.

They are not really critics, they are more like opinions and liking.

That is the same thing when somebody tells us he would like to see something like one characterwith bigger boobs.

We acknowledge that, maybe it could influence a bit our decisions, but in the end, I would not call it improvement since other would like smaller boobs.
There is a difference between stating a preference and expressing issues with the implementations of a mechanic (i.e. a choice) and handling them the same isn't really fair as some people might actually put thought into criticism.

Well I would say "fault", more "choice" really. Hey you brought up the wording thing.
It's cute that you're trying to call me out on wording, but in the very quote you used, I did use the word "choice". "Fault" in this case was referring to the fact that you yourself have to manage your work and needs and if you can't effectively do so that's your "fault".

And I would also say that caring for someone even if you don't know them does not mean "pitying" them.
As far as I know it could be a totally interested move to keep said creator creating and providing valued content.
I agree that there is probably an ulterior motive to it, but more often than not I've seen game devs overly pitied to the point where they took their situation, and the leniency of their fans, for granted.

So since I do think that is a valid point (otherwise I would not make it) that mean that there is a point and thus that you are wrong.
What exactly did you mean by this?
 

Segnbora

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Aug 30, 2017
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ok i did i cant phone her and i keep getting pop up saying maybe i should check on Yuki. In class she has purpel hair and i cant call her to train in gym eather
Click on her SMS exchange with you. You will have already started a conversation. Click/space bar/whatever you use to advance until it's over. This is what you should do every time the game suggests you "check on" one of the NPCs while you're at home.
 

rhelives

Newbie
Aug 7, 2017
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Really enjoy the game, butt plugs are something I love and a girl walking around all day with one is grade A so it's nice to seem them get some love. However one thing that kinda bugs if that some of the girls actually lose a lot of scenes if you continue their transformations. A good example is yuki who has really nothing in her final state right now.
 

Gary Bertrand

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Sep 30, 2017
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Click on her SMS exchange with you. You will have already started a conversation. Click/space bar/whatever you use to advance until it's over. This is what you should do every time the game suggests you "check on" one of the NPCs while you're at home.
thank you so much i never new i had to do it that way thaught when some one says i should check up on her ment to call but thank you for all the help i love her ink hair and when she has her dog collor on best sex slave there is whoof whoof
 

taler

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Current mac version doesn't work. Would appreciate the updated / fixed version.
 

Pattitto00

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May 20, 2018
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I lost christal , no tutoring. Put her to work on the club and put her out. Nothing. Calling her at school and Dating but Nothing, dismissing other girls, nope. Any help would be Appreciated.

About the branch issue, my suggestion is to make a warning mesage like "caution: choosing pink serum will start "X" branch.
 

iloveupls

Newbie
Apr 6, 2018
55
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I lost christal , no tutoring. Put her to work on the club and put her out. Nothing. Calling her at school and Dating but Nothing, dismissing other girls, nope. Any help would be Appreciated.

About the branch issue, my suggestion is to make a warning mesage like "caution: choosing pink serum will start "X" branch.
after the green serume i cant meet with her
 

Finsit

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@Pattitto00 @iloveupls
I might need a save to check that out.
There is a difference between stating a preference and expressing issues with the implementations of a mechanic (i.e. a choice) and handling them the same isn't really fair as some people might actually put thought into criticism.
Handling something the same way doesn't mean it induce the same effect.

As I said earlier the more someone can show me their opinion is sound the more interest I take in it.
And "expressing issues with the implementations of a mechanic" is an opinion.
It's cute that you're trying to call me out on wording, but in the very quote you used, I did use the word "choice".
Don't care if you used the word afterward. Having a project taking a toll on you is not a fault, it's a choice.

See, I wouldn't say Giordano Bruno made a fault to go all the way with his work. Even if it took quite the toll on him.
What exactly did you mean by this?
You say "no point" I give you a point, you even find it valid it. So, I win.



Honestly, I don't think there would be much fourth-wall breaking if, when offered the choices, we had some text between brackets next to them warning it's an exclusive choice.
It's good to see that someone care about that poor fourth-wall.

It's one of the key point I try to preserve along consistency.
Take like the suggestion from @Pattitto00 of adding a scene counter in the gui and by extension more stats on the girl status.

When it comes to the UI I get really touchy with about those subject. With the SMS system I made what is I think my best GUI so far, well it's not really much of a challenge since I suck at making those so when something look right it's already on the top of my list.

So I had to make an UI that :
  • looked good
  • I could make
  • made sense with the rest of the game

The first two item lead to the inevitable (for me) flat design. I love it. And I can do it.
But how to integrate in the game was an other question.

I weighted the idea of having of having the UI inside a phone screen. There is now multiple game that use that kind of UI, and while I don't think it's bad I don't think it meshes well with a HUD if the phone itself is not the HUD.
Also the game is more often that not viewed in third person.
So if I wanted to be true to my ideas I needed to make the UI in line to the rest of the game.

So having a 1st person view for an UI but having an abstract HUD and a 3rd person view during events was not possible for me.
So I went for something that remind the look of the phone yet is abstract and with the same color scheme as the rest of the UI.


Currently the only pieces of the game that are problematic are the legacy parts. Those I did not yet made obsolete with a new system or those I made to work exactly as the old. An example would be the location list to jump. First I made it so it would mimic the old one perfectly.
With the last update I partially updated it to allow for jumping to the dean's office and gym from anywhere.
I did that because with the new events in the dean's office it was needed to be able to access them in the evening and it when the school would be inaccessible.
So I changed it and made it work with the meetup with Kara before pinking her.

I don't change the old stuff before needed. I already rewritten the game logic once, before I had the necessary knowledge to have a clear idea of how to update it.


I digressed a little bit. Anyway, any fourth-wall breaking will be to be extremely well justified and done.
But that doesn't mean we cannot add a warning without breaking it.
And, on the other hand, it would be really helpful to avoid doing the same thing over and over again expecting some action to re-activate the second option (I lost quite some time with Lola trying to get her back to the gym to inject the pink serum, trying to increase her affection and corruption to get to that point, before I decided to look into this forum if it was a bug or a feature).
The goal is to make every event only needed once.

While the current stat system could be seen as useless then, it will still have an use in the long term.
Seeing as how the girls' paths are quite parallel, once you are aware of the hard forks, you can always create separate saves to explore them (it's what I did with Lola).
Exactly, the current lack of interaction between the girl is also a blessing since it means the branches are not entwined.

However, I would like to point out (not sure if it was done, but with so many messages, I have a hard time checking) that, once Lola has been injected the green (morphing) serum, she is still with her previous body in the stripclub. Not only should she be different, but, depending on the progression of the Kara/Lola scenes, she should also react differently during the private dance.

Also, the text about Lola on the phone should be updated, whatever serum we use, to reflect how much she has changed: she is no longer hostile towards the MC.
She doesn't change either after getting injected some pink.
We chose to temporary keep the stripclub events available even if they are not matching the current stage.

Thanks for reporting it, but this time it's voluntary.
 

Paulthecat

New Member
May 19, 2017
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I think Crystal is bugging out for me, at stage two after having missionary sex I get two text prompts and then I can't progress her to the next stage, have I increased one of her stats too high and it's activating two progress flags at the same time?
 

iloveupls

Newbie
Apr 6, 2018
55
15
I think Crystal is bugging out for me, at stage two after having missionary sex I get two text prompts and then I can't progress her to the next stage, have I increased one of her stats too high and it's activating two progress flags at the same time?
im stuck on her taking the green serum after that nothing shows up
 
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