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I can understand what you mean now....you have to remember though, that first girl the MC "loses" at the bar when he remembered her party days......he has no shot with her anyways since she will not become a LI in the game, unless something happens to T4bbo or he just gets totally done with that character. He was the one who used her in 'Babysitters', I just use her now as a nod since I like the character and the game I found her in(plus I hated how the new writer wrote her when T4bbo switched writers).

I don't really think it starts out grim at all in the beginning and you're really the only one who has gone to that point. You may not like it, and that's cool. We all have our likes and dislikes. I mean, this notion that one has stuff just handed to them, it will never be my thing. Interactions are sometime struggles and we all fuck them up at times. Not each one is going to be perfect. Those things are what interests me more as a writer. The point with the MC is to build him up as he goes along. He was down and out and trying to start anew....but that doesn't mean it's going to be perfect and he doesn't screw up trying to shake his old ways. It's a process. Granted, me as a writer, I can probably do better at certain points which I am always trying to get better at.

Thank you for the comments.

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The problem is also that the creep points appear whether or not you do anything creepy, I tested this by being sa creep with Aubrey, walking in on her unannounced when she;s in the shower and also other places where you purposly look down her top etc... and the replaying it by knocking before entry etc... avoiding the creepy aspects and actually had 10 creep points instead of the 9 I got when I did creep on her, don't you see something wrong here
 

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The problem is also that the creep points appear whether or not you do anything creepy, I tested this by being sa creep with Aubrey, walking in on her unannounced when she;s in the shower and also other places where you purposly look down her top etc... and the replaying it by knocking before entry etc... avoiding the creepy aspects and actually had 10 creep points instead of the 9 I got when I did creep on her, don't you see something wrong here
Well, because we haven't had anyone else with this issue, it seems isolated to only you right now. Which version of the game are you playing? Code Guy dropped an update to the game last night that addressed some of the point system. Did you download the old version, play and save and then downloaded the update and resumed with the old save? It's just really strange. Again, you're the only who has seemingly had this issue about the points. When Code Guy gets a chance, he'll look over the points and all. In the meantime, is it possible for you to send us your save? Might be easier to break it down that way.

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Hey, Coding Guy here! The Creep points you're seeing there are intentional. Basically, each girl has a fairly neutral starting assessment of you (10 Lust, 10 Love, 10 Creep), although I adjust this for each girl based on her impression of you. Joyce starts out a little jaded and dismissive of you, for instance, because she only sees you at first as another guy to drain cash from, while Leah starts out a little more forgiving because she's always believed there was someone good in you.

As I stated earlier, don't take the point system too literally right now - it's a work in progress. We're trying to figure out exactly how we want it to operate, but if you assume for now that Creep of 10 is neutral, Creep of 8- is good, and Creep of 12+ is uncomfortable, you should have the right idea.

-Coding Guy
 

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Hey, Coding Guy here! The Creep points you're seeing there are intentional. Basically, each girl has a fairly neutral starting assessment of you (10 Lust, 10 Love, 10 Creep), although I adjust this for each girl based on her impression of you. Joyce starts out a little jaded and dismissive of you, for instance, because she only sees you at first as another guy to drain cash from, while Leah starts out a little more forgiving because she's always believed there was someone good in you.

As I stated earlier, don't take the point system too literally right now - it's a work in progress. We're trying to figure out exactly how we want it to operate, but if you assume for now that Creep of 10 is neutral, Creep of 8- is good, and Creep of 12+ is uncomfortable, you should have the right idea.

-Coding Guy
That makes sense in principle, but I'm just playing through the opening chapter and it's looking for Aubrey to have Creep scores like 0 in one check or less than 3 in another, which there are no way to achieve (without cheating).

Maybe that design decision (of having 10 be "neutral") wasn't in place yet when the first chapter was written?
 
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Well, because we haven't had anyone else with this issue, it seems isolated to only you right now. Which version of the game are you playing? Code Guy dropped an update to the game last night that addressed some of the point system. Did you download the old version, play and save and then downloaded the update and resumed with the old save? It's just really strange. Again, you're the only who has seemingly had this issue about the points. When Code Guy gets a chance, he'll look over the points and all. In the meantime, is it possible for you to send us your save? Might be easier to break it down that way.

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It was the latest version of the game v4.2
 

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That makes sense in principle, but I'm just playing through the opening chapter and it's looking for Aubrey to have Creep scores like 0 in one check or less than 3 in another, which there are no way to achieve (without cheating).

Maybe that design decision (of having 10 be "neutral") wasn't in place yet when the first chapter was written?
That was actually why version 0.04.2 had to be made; I missed a bunch of the checks. Are you saying you found MORE checks for creep asking for 0 in v.0.04.2? If so, point 'em out and I'll fix 'em.

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That was actually why version 0.04.2 had to be made; I missed a bunch of the checks. Are you saying you found MORE checks for creep asking for 0 in v.0.04.2? If so, point 'em out and I'll fix 'em.

-Coding Guy
Nothing game-breaking, just minor dialogue stuff:

In 001 - Coming Home.rpy
line 489 assumes that you've just been checking her out if aubrey_creep > 0
line 1207 gives +1 to aubrey_creep if it's >= 3

The only way you can decrease her creep score before then is -1 through one of the dialogue choices after peeking on her in the shower, so min. creep score is 9 (if you don't peek at all it'll still be stuck on 10).

I haven't checked for others, those were just the two I spotted in passing.
 
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Hey hey! Nice work, thanks for that. It's minor enough that I don't think a version 0.04.3 is needed, but it'll be fixed in 0.05.

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here is my save file
Hey, Coding Guy here! The Creep points you're seeing there are intentional. Basically, each girl has a fairly neutral starting assessment of you (10 Lust, 10 Love, 10 Creep), although I adjust this for each girl based on her impression of you. Joyce starts out a little jaded and dismissive of you, for instance, because she only sees you at first as another guy to drain cash from, while Leah starts out a little more forgiving because she's always believed there was someone good in you.

As I stated earlier, don't take the point system too literally right now - it's a work in progress. We're trying to figure out exactly how we want it to operate, but if you assume for now that Creep of 10 is neutral, Creep of 8- is good, and Creep of 12+ is uncomfortable, you should have the right idea.

-Coding Guy
No need to send me the save. Those points are unavoidable. Getting to 0 Creep might be possible a dozen updates from now. Just view a creep range of 8-12 as Neutral.

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Hey hey! Nice work, thanks for that. It's minor enough that I don't think a version 0.04.3 is needed, but it'll be fixed in 0.05.

-Coding Guy
Sure, no bother. While you're at it, you may want to have a look at the conditions on day 003, around lines 1953-1963: You're calling the same variable (d3_daddys_lil_cumslut) several times in a way that doesn't really make sense.

I thought it a bit odd that the only way to get the sex scene with Joyce on day 002 was if you had the bad end on day 001, but am assuming that's working as intended.
 

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Sure, no bother. While you're at it, you may want to have a look at the conditions on day 003, around lines 1953-1963: You're calling the same variable (d3_daddys_lil_cumslut) several times in a way that doesn't really make sense.

I thought it a bit odd that the only way to get the sex scene with Joyce on day 002 was if you had the bad end on day 001, but am assuming that's working as intended.
Yeah, that part is working as intended. She's kinda the reward if you play the douchebag line which is intended for bad things to happen to the MC later because of that. We haven't necessarily gotten to the bad things just yet.....but we're getting there :)

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Sure, no bother. While you're at it, you may want to have a look at the conditions on day 003, around lines 1953-1963: You're calling the same variable (d3_daddys_lil_cumslut) several times in a way that doesn't really make sense.

I thought it a bit odd that the only way to get the sex scene with Joyce on day 002 was if you had the bad end on day 001, but am assuming that's working as intended.
Another good catch. It's hard to notice things like that during bug testing when we've read the damn lines so many times already...

-CG
 
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Another good catch. It's hard to notice things like that during bug testing when we've read the damn lines so many times already...

-CG

Yep, that definitely happens. Code-blindness is real and it's destroying families.

One last thing: On day 004, around lines 2291-2296, the MC tells Leah he saw Sarah naked regardless if he did or not. That should probably be gated behind an if d4_sar_peek == True with an alternate line or two to bridge the gap if not True.
 

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...Derp, right, that's not even a code failure. I think by that point we were both just eager to get to Scene 5 that we weren't thinking straight : P Much appreciated.

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Thank you for that reply. I didn't think you were harsh at all. It was pretty constructive, which I appreciate. I'm glad you wrote because I've been wondering if there were anyone who played the initial release and didn't touch til about now. I know things were shaky when we first dropped the game. We've gone through and redid a lot....still some stuff I want to re-render.

The criticism you mentioned about the animation angles is very fair. We've been called out on that before, lol. Everyone at least has been very understanding on that front. Most of the time, the angles are the way they are to hide the part that isn't working well. Some of the animations are not built for every model, so there is quite a bit of going back through and editing. Some are easy, some not so much. Trying to get better on that end...if it's an animation I created from scratch, normally you see everything or I try to get in as much as I can. If I'm using something from renderotica, that's normally where some of the issues come into play. Normally each animation is like at least 200 frames, going back and editing one frame by frame isn't so bad as long as it isn't multiple things, but when you have quite a few animations and it's like 5 or 6 things per frame you have to edit, you tend to go down the path of least resistance. I've been learning though how to better use some of the assets from renderotica, so hopefully we'll be able to showoff more.

Thank you for the compliment with the humor. I often write what I think is funny and I know not everyone shares that sense of humor, lol. Glad there have been a few that appreciates that.

Anyways, thank you for the comments and hopefully we'll see more of you on the thread and maybe become a patron at some point :)

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Thank you so much for taking the time to read my message and for getting back to me. I really appreciate it! And yes, you will see more of me, and I look forward to supporting good stories like this one in whatever capacity I can. :)
 
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this is an unofficial android port Devil In Your Eyes [v0.04.2] APK -
 
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Wonderfull women!
The dark one , beau
Leah , on the thicc side , gorgeous!
I very much like the facial expressions , little more natural.
No raw porn yet but i'm patient with this one.
Curious about the future.
Many thanx.

sorry , English isn't my mother language
 
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Thank you so much for taking the time to read my message and for getting back to me. I really appreciate it! And yes, you will see more of me, and I look forward to supporting good stories like this one in whatever capacity I can. :)
Awesome! :) Thank you very much and welcome.

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Wonderfull women!
The dark one , beau
Leah , on the thicc side , gorgeous!
I very much like the facial expressions , little more natural.
No raw porn yet but i'm patient with this one.
Curious about the future.
Many thanx.

sorry , English isn't my mother language
No problem at all. Welcome :) And thank you for the compliments there.

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