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Time within the game moves fast - it's already been over a month of their time apart in just 3 updates of the game. It's not unreasonable to assume her NTR arc will be fully realized in a few more patches (several months with her new friends and away from MC).

And for everyone bashing on "lesbian" NTR - go suck a lemon. The story is clearly setting up Marissa x Adrianna and Marissa x Flora. It's going to happen eventually - I am just asking the dev for Marissa to cheat on MC with Flora or Adrianna first, not that she never cheats with another guy. Read carefully before you twist your panties in a bunch. Do you know how rare lesbian NTR even is?
The story did not start with the lesbian ntr angle. It shifted to it. That is when my interest in the story decreased and my financial support stopped. I still enjoy the game, just not as much as I did before. Good quality writing.

People are entitled to have opinions and can like what they like. You don't have to agree with them.

Lesbian NTR is rare for a reason. Most men don't like it. If you enjoy it, good for you. It's not bashing lesbian. And no one's panties are in bunch. ;)
 

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The story did not start with the lesbian ntr angle. It shifted to it. That is when my interest in the story decreased and my financial support stopped. I still enjoy the game, just not as much as I did before. Good quality writing.

People are entitled to have opinions and can like what they like. You don't have to agree with them.

Lesbian NTR is rare for a reason. Most men don't like it. If you enjoy it, good for you. It's not bashing lesbian. And no one's panties are in bunch. ;)
The game isn’t moving towards NTR, it’s moving to a point where it will have lesbian NTR - with Flora and with Adrianna.

We don’t know if she’ll end up dating any of these characters (including Justin), but I’m saying it would subvert expectations (the player’s and the MC’s) if she ended up with Flora or Adrianna.

However, given that Justin will be central to her downfall, it’s safe to say it won’t be a lesbo-heaven at all. Especially not with Adrianna, who’s clearly being setup as someone interested in flings, not relationships.
 
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The story did not start with the lesbian ntr angle. It shifted to it. That is when my interest in the story decreased and my financial support stopped. I still enjoy the game, just not as much as I did before. Good quality writing.

People are entitled to have opinions and can like what they like. You don't have to agree with them.

Lesbian NTR is rare for a reason. Most men don't like it. If you enjoy it, good for you. It's not bashing lesbian. And no one's panties are in bunch. ;)
There really isn't going to be lesbian NTR at least not until a while. Not sure what lesbian NTR you're seeing in the game but there isn't any right now.
 
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I don't disagree, Lesbian NTR isn't really my thing either. At least for Marissa's route, I'm more interested in seeing how her corruption is written than the actual content itself. For the purpose of ultimately serving Justin's interests, I'm fine with Flora to an extent, just so long as it doesn't completely subvert the initial set-up. But I'd be lying if I were to say that I don't have any doubts about it, especially with how Adrianna's in the mix.

Even if things were to go in that direction, I'd be fine with it under the condition that Gemma's route remains as it's own thing. I can understand some overlap, but it's better if all the girls have their own distinct downfalls.
Adrianna's probably only going to be involved for the thrill of it (fucking her brother's girlfriend), while Flora and Justin are in it for the long haul - they want to completely break down Marissa and turn her into "one of them", so that they can have their way with her.
 
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There really isn't going to be lesbian NTR at least not until a while. Not sure what lesbian NTR you're seeing in the game but there isn't any right now.
Someone else mentioned lesbian NTR and I was just responding to that person. Call it whatever you want. It has become apparent that there will be "lesbian activities" better? .... with Marissa and for me that part of the story is not appealing.

I'm not bashing the game, the developer, or people that like lesbian content. To each his own. I still plan to play the next update to see how it goes. Maybe I'll change my mind
 
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Adrianna's probably only going to be involved for the thrill of it (fucking her brother's girlfriend), while Flora and Justin are in it for the long haul - they want to completely break down Marissa and turn her into "one of them", so that they can have their way with her.
I think Justin and Flora are biting off more than they can chew if they think they can "corrupt" and "break" Marrisa. I think whatever happens will be on Marrisas term. That when she eventually decides to cheat on Jeremy it won't be a manipulation , but her deciding freely that this is what she wants to explore.

i also think Justin and Flora are going to get more attached to Marrisa than they have planned and in the end get changed by her more than they change her. I could see them both falling head over heals in love with Marrisa and in the end getting hurt by her.

As far as the villians of this game go Justin and Flora seem fairly moral besides the stuff they post online. I dont think they are the big bad seducers that they make themselves out to be on the forum. They earnestly tried to get there friend to hook up with his LI. And the only reason the fuckboy got to her was because that friend did nothing despite multiple prompts to get his ass in gear. Plus if the black haired girl who has been clashing with Marrisa was one of Justin's seductions, than it shows he doesnt throw them away afterwards. They do become part of his friend group. Which shows that he does care about them.

The only villian that seems like a down right sociopath is Gemmas land lord. Which is tragic because that could easily become a healthy relationship for Gemma if the landlord was anyone else. She desperatly needs someone who will support, encourage and grow with her. And instead she gets the biggest piece of shit of them all.

The guy Ari met on the beach was sad and running from the end of a relationship. He was not as in control of the situation as he thought he was when he first met Ari. Im pretty sure that when Ari left at the end of her vacation that he was left in the worse state depression wise than he was before he met Ari. I can just picture him lying on the beach filled with meloncholy and longing.

Justin seems like he was hurt by some woman in the past whether that was his mother or an ex, and his response is to get back at them by being a playboy(just a guess based on vibes. I have no evidence for this.) But otherwise he seems like a genuinely good dude who wants to be good and generous to his friends. Meanwhile Flora seems to genuinely like Marrisa. I cant see either of them using her and throwing her away.

Meanwhile Marrisa has already shown that she has a temper, and that shes willing to stand up for herself and be vicious if she feels like shes under attack. Hell, she also has random flashes of cruelty when shes stressed, which is not some i expected when i first played through the game from only Jermeys view. The whole Justin and Marrisa situation is giving me Jason and Medea vibes. It's like, congrats Justin you seduced the intelligent, fierce, potent, and sometimes cruel heroine. Now you better keep her happy or youre going to suffer for it.
 

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I think Justin and Flora are biting off more than they can chew if they think they can "corrupt" and "break" Marrisa. I think whatever happens will be on Marrisas term. That when she eventually decides to cheat on Jeremy it won't be a manipulation , but her deciding freely that this is what she wants to explore.

i also think Justin and Flora are going to get more attached to Marrisa than they have planned and in the end get changed by her more than they change her. I could see them both falling head over heals in love with Marrisa and in the end getting hurt by her.

As far as the villians of this game go Justin and Flora seem fairly moral besides the stuff they post online. I dont think they are the big bad seducers that they make themselves out to be on the forum. They earnestly tried to get there friend to hook up with his LI. And the only reason the fuckboy got to her was because that friend did nothing despite multiple prompts to get his ass in gear. Plus if the black haired girl who has been clashing with Marrisa was one of Justin's seductions, than it shows he doesnt throw them away afterwards. They do become part of his friend group. Which shows that he does care about them.

The only villian that seems like a down right sociopath is Gemmas land lord. Which is tragic because that could easily become a healthy relationship for Gemma if the landlord was anyone else. She desperatly needs someone who will support, encourage and grow with her. And instead she gets the biggest piece of shit of them all.

The guy Ari met on the beach was sad and running from the end of a relationship. He was not as in control of the situation as he thought he was when he first met Ari. Im pretty sure that when Ari left at the end of her vacation that he was left in the worse state depression wise than he was before he met Ari. I can just picture him lying on the beach filled with meloncholy and longing.

Justin seems like he was hurt by some woman in the past whether that was his mother or an ex, and his response is to get back at them by being a playboy(just a guess based on vibes. I have no evidence for this.) But otherwise he seems like a genuinely good dude who wants to be good and generous to his friends. Meanwhile Flora seems to genuinely like Marrisa. I cant see either of them using her and throwing her away.

Meanwhile Marrisa has already shown that she has a temper, and that shes willing to stand up for herself and be vicious if she feels like shes under attack. Hell, she also has random flashes of cruelty when shes stressed, which is not some i expected when i first played through the game from only Jermeys view. The whole Justin and Marrisa situation is giving me Jason and Medea vibes. It's like, congrats Justin you seduced the intelligent, fierce, potent, and sometimes cruel heroine. Now you better keep her happy or youre going to suffer for it.
I feel like a pariah for saying this, but Flora becoming Marissa's girlfriend on the NTR route would be infinitely better to me. I understand, however, that the dev will write Justin as the center of her NTR arc.

But you're right, they won't corrupt Marissa into becoming a complete slut for cock, just change her outlook on her sexuality to the point where she freely uses it to satisfy herself & others. She will be completely absorbed into that friend group, and will leave MC behind for her new, "better" life - by her own choice of choosing them over her boyfriend.
 
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I feel like a pariah for saying this, but Flora becoming Marissa's girlfriend on the NTR route would be infinitely better to me. I understand, however, that the dev will write Justin as the center of her NTR arc.

But you're right, they won't corrupt Marissa into becoming a complete slut for cock, just change her outlook on her sexuality to the point where she freely uses it to satisfy herself & others. She will be completely absorbed into that friend group, and will leave MC behind for her new, "better" life - by her own choice of choosing them over her boyfriend.
Haha, Flora becoming Marissa's girlfriend would set up an interesting dynamic. She could tease Justin about it, saying stuff like "I've gotten to fuck her while you haven't." Bold and wild guess, but I think if it would be interesting if Jeremy sleeps with Flora before Justin. Like when he returns at Christmas break, he has a threesome with Marrisa and Flora.

Im hoping that the end of the game will go differently. That Marrisas' exploration will lead her back to Jeremy. That just like she decides to be a slut for a while, exploring who she is outside of her relationship and finding herself, she comes back to Jeremy with a firmer commitment that he is what she truly wants. Having tasted all the delights the world has to offer, she still chooses Jeremy, her experiences having made her confident that he is what she truly needs. Even if it means sacrificing her new friend group and the life she has built independently from him. It would still be a melancholic ending, with plenty of drama. She would be leaving behind the people she has come to love and the lifestyle she has come to enjoy to go to London. Or who knows, maybe they both sacrifice they lives, hey are building for themselves to be with each other. Marrisa leaving her new group of friends, and Jeremy leaving his job in order for the two of them to start a newlife somewhere else.

I want this game to have at least a somewhat happy ending. I am fond of these characters and want them to grow and flourish. Also, I think you're right. If Marrisa does leave Jeremy in the end, it won't be because she has become a brainless harlot, corrupted and fuck drunk. It will be because she has built a new life for herself without him, a life where she is flourishing and happy, and one that has become more important than their relationship. That would be a tragic yet realistic end, both of them deciding that the new lives they have built for themselves are more important than each other, and they just drift apart.

Im hoping that wont be the case and that the darkest we get will be a few month break between them with no contact. That will give time for plenty of heartbreak, drama, and depravity. But still allow for a reconciliation towards the end of the game, and a happy ending.
 

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Haha, Flora becoming Marissa's girlfriend would set up an interesting dynamic. She could tease Justin about it, saying stuff like "I've gotten to fuck her while you haven't." Bold and wild guess, but I think if it would be interesting if Jeremy sleeps with Flora before Justin. Like when he returns at Christmas break, he has a threesome with Marrisa and Flora.

Im hoping that the end of the game will go differently. That Marrisas' exploration will lead her back to Jeremy. That just like she decides to be a slut for a while, exploring who she is outside of her relationship and finding herself, she comes back to Jeremy with a firmer commitment that he is what she truly wants. Having tasted all the delights the world has to offer, she still chooses Jeremy, her experiences having made her confident that he is what she truly needs. Even if it means sacrificing her new friend group and the life she has built independently from him. It would still be a melancholic ending, with plenty of drama. She would be leaving behind the people she has come to love and the lifestyle she has come to enjoy to go to London. Or who knows, maybe they both sacrifice they lives, hey are building for themselves to be with each other. Marrisa leaving her new group of friends, and Jeremy leaving his job in order for the two of them to start a newlife somewhere else.

I want this game to have at least a somewhat happy ending. I am fond of these characters and want them to grow and flourish. Also, I think you're right. If Marrisa does leave Jeremy in the end, it won't be because she has become a brainless harlot, corrupted and fuck drunk. It will be because she has built a new life for herself without him, a life where she is flourishing and happy, and one that has become more important than their relationship. That would be a tragic yet realistic end, both of them deciding that the new lives they have built for themselves are more important than each other, and they just drift apart.

Im hoping that wont be the case and that the darkest we get will be a few month break between them with no contact. That will give time for plenty of heartbreak, drama, and depravity. But still allow for a reconciliation towards the end of the game, and a happy ending.
This is some high ass copium for what's probably gonna be just Marissa and every other girl Jeremy is close to, getting completely corrupted by the other dudes and dudettes. And Jeremy having his shocking relevation from finding out about it.

One realistic ending would be Jeremy never finding out and Marissa just acting like the she drifted away "naturally" due to it being long distance or some shit. This is usually how it happens IRL. Unless Marissa decides to still stay with Jeremy without telling him anything. This is also pretty common and could be another ending.
 
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Haha, Flora becoming Marissa's girlfriend would set up an interesting dynamic. She could tease Justin about it, saying stuff like "I've gotten to fuck her while you haven't." Bold and wild guess, but I think if it would be interesting if Jeremy sleeps with Flora before Justin. Like when he returns at Christmas break, he has a threesome with Marrisa and Flora.

Im hoping that the end of the game will go differently. That Marrisas' exploration will lead her back to Jeremy. That just like she decides to be a slut for a while, exploring who she is outside of her relationship and finding herself, she comes back to Jeremy with a firmer commitment that he is what she truly wants. Having tasted all the delights the world has to offer, she still chooses Jeremy, her experiences having made her confident that he is what she truly needs. Even if it means sacrificing her new friend group and the life she has built independently from him. It would still be a melancholic ending, with plenty of drama. She would be leaving behind the people she has come to love and the lifestyle she has come to enjoy to go to London. Or who knows, maybe they both sacrifice they lives, hey are building for themselves to be with each other. Marrisa leaving her new group of friends, and Jeremy leaving his job in order for the two of them to start a newlife somewhere else.

I want this game to have at least a somewhat happy ending. I am fond of these characters and want them to grow and flourish. Also, I think you're right. If Marrisa does leave Jeremy in the end, it won't be because she has become a brainless harlot, corrupted and fuck drunk. It will be because she has built a new life for herself without him, a life where she is flourishing and happy, and one that has become more important than their relationship. That would be a tragic yet realistic end, both of them deciding that the new lives they have built for themselves are more important than each other, and they just drift apart.

Im hoping that wont be the case and that the darkest we get will be a few month break between them with no contact. That will give time for plenty of heartbreak, drama, and depravity. But still allow for a reconciliation towards the end of the game, and a happy ending.
Sorry to break it to you, but the name of the game is NTR - that means no happy or bittersweet endings.

I just hope Flora x Marissa is treated as a serious thing, and not a mere stepping stone to Justin.
 

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Sorry to break it to you, but the name of the game is NTR - that means no happy or bittersweet endings.
Sorry to break it to you, but last time I checked, name of the game is Dissonance :4Head:- and even tho it is centered around NTR genre, that does not in any way point on inability of the "happy" (to an extend) or especially "bittersweet" endings, what are fairly not uncommon in that genre. :lepew:
 
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Sorry to break it to you, but the name of the game is NTR - that means no happy or bittersweet endings.

I just hope Flora x Marissa is treated as a serious thing, and not a mere stepping stone to Justin.
Im gonna disagree with you. The type of NTR games you are speaking of are pure fetish fuel with no deeper layers and nothing more to say than "Hey jerk off to this." So it makes sense for them to have bleak, fetish fuel endings.

This is a story with NTR in it. However from everything I have seen so far and read from the dev diaries. It has a good deal more depth and substance to it than the usual NTR slop on this site. It's the reason I love it so much.

Now I have no doubt it will get dark. And the timeline of the game gives it plenty of room to dwell in that darkness, but also have the characters pull through, grow, and find happiness by the end.

We can have months where Marrisa fully throws herself into being Justin's woman and exploring what her sexuality means to her. Months where Gemma loses herself in the escapism of being her landlords fucktoy, and not having to think about all ways she feels shes failed, and all the reasons she hates herself. Months where Jeremey is depressed and angry. Filled with jealousy and hate for those he loved that he feels betrayed him, unfairly using that redhead from work as a stress release without the consideration he should be showing a new lover.

I get the sense from the games themes, and from the dev blogs. That the author of this story has either gone to therapy or is involved in the field. And as the other commentator said it comes back to the name of the game. Dissonance.

Now I am just an ignorant layman so take what I say with what ever worth you feel it holds. But Dissonance in a person is the conflict between ones internal ideals and morals, and how they act. It's something that until adressed will create conflict and suffering in one's self, and people can use defense mechanism to escape this suffering.

For Gemma she feels shes a failure. So many paths she could have walked. So many things she could have been. She seeks to escape these feelings rather than confront and work through them. Her escapism of choice right now is isolation and screen time. But it will probably become all of that plus sex later in the story.

Aris defense mechanism is excuses and justifications. She knows shes being a shitty partner and a shitty person, but shes built the consequences of her actions into such monsters in her mind that she cant confront them or be honest with those she loves. So shes built a wall of justifications and seeks to prove that those around her are just as bad as her.

We have yet to see how Marrisa and Jeremy act when their internal ideals come into conflict with the way they behave. But if I had to make a fan guess for both of them I would guess anger would be involved. Marrisa has already shown what a temper she has when stressed. WIth Jeremy, as much as I know the confines of the genre may constrain his actions a bit. I truly feel like hes not just the players bland self insert. But a character with his own personality, flaws and story to tell.

I think hes going to go through his own story arc that doesnt just involve him being a powerless watcher. Well those he loves are far away and all he can do is give advice. He does have one creep near at hand that he can take active action against. He's shown that hes really good at his job, very charming, and very good at politicking. Even though he doesnt want to admit it. It would be intresting if in the midst of all the drama that hes dealing with from the home front. All the rage, jealousy, deppresion and grief. if the creep at work acts out. Maybe targeting the red head, and in turn Jeremy vents his fury and ruins the man's career. Maybe even drives him out of the field completely. He could be surprised about how much he likes exercising power over others, even as he hates himself for liking it. He could start up a relationship with the red head, be a bit of a tyrant with her. Be so angry with everything thats happening at home that he let's it out on her and doesnt treat her as she deserves. Hell he could even become another guy sharing photos of his conquests on that forum.

Sorry, I didnt mean for this to go on for so long. I always have more to say than I think I do when start writing. And I dont blame you for just skimming through or not reading this. But let me just lastly add that when confronted with this dissonance you have two options. One you can either keep running from it, keep making excuses, and keep suffering. Or you can find the strength to confront it and grow as a person. Finding a synthesis that allows them to move forward and be happy. And I truly believe that no matter how fucked up the middle parts of this story gets, that we are headed in the direction of these characters confronting their dissonance head on and overcoming it, and in the end emerging as better people.
 
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