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MacArawn

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2nd cousin, no?
In Japan, I don't think that's considered incest. Plus they have these weird familiarities and honorifics so I think the tag's best avoided.
From what I recall, in Japan, incest is only called that when it's brother/sister or ancestor/descendant(parent/child, grandparent/grandchild, etc) or a cross between the two (blood related aunt/nephew, etc). Even first cousins are allowed to marry, although this does not happen often and is frowned upon.
 

nineball

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Make a random save in save 5, then close the game and replace save 5 with the one he uploaded.

I actually tried this with the save file provided and it didn't work for me either. I just the same save file that was there before.
 

MrNTR

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Anyone know a game like this but with NTR?
Unfortunately, most porn is wish-fulfillment only. But I can get into this game if the "romance" is half-decently done instead of the usual shameless harem and wish-fulfillment.
 

alex2011

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From what I recall, in Japan, incest is only called that when it's brother/sister or ancestor/descendant(parent/child, grandparent/grandchild, etc) or a cross between the two (blood related aunt/nephew, etc). Even first cousins are allowed to marry, although this does not happen often and is frowned upon.
Even if it's legal in the country of origin or the relation isn't genetic, that's still technically incest. It just happens to be legal is the only difference.
 

RNDM

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Even if it's legal in the country of origin or the relation isn't genetic, that's still technically incest. It just happens to be legal is the only difference.
For the record cousin marriage is and . How socially acceptable it is naturally varies widely.

Practically speaking until *very* recently the vast majority of humanity lived in fairly insular local communities - rural villages mostly - and about the furthest they traveled tended to be the occasional round trip to the regional market center; spouses duly had to be sought close by and since it didn't take many generations for the entire village to be related to some degree as a result at least a certain degree of consanguinity in marriages had to be legally and socially tolerated out of necessity.

And then you have places like Iceland where historical bottlenecks and natural disasters - recalling that about 20k is the long-term genetically viable minimum... yeah, couldn't exactly afford to be picky in such circumstances.
 

alex2011

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For the record cousin marriage is and . How socially acceptable it is naturally varies widely.

Practically speaking until *very* recently the vast majority of humanity lived in fairly insular local communities - rural villages mostly - and about the furthest they traveled tended to be the occasional round trip to the regional market center; spouses duly had to be sought close by and since it didn't take many generations for the entire village to be related to some degree as a result at least a certain degree of consanguinity in marriages had to be legally and socially tolerated out of necessity.

And then you have places like Iceland where historical bottlenecks and natural disasters - recalling that about 20k is the long-term genetically viable minimum... yeah, couldn't exactly afford to be picky in such circumstances.
I'm aware of all that, just making the point that, even though it is legal, it is still incest. That's why it's still frowned upon even in certain countries where it is legal to marry certain relatives, such as cousins in Japan.
 

RNDM

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Well people are far more mobile nowadays so social mores can afford to be more picky about it. But at least if popular culture is to go by cousin relationships get far fewer funny looks in say East Asia than "Western" countries for ex.
 

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I'm aware of all that, just making the point that, even though it is legal, it is still incest. That's why it's still frowned upon even in certain countries where it is legal to marry certain relatives, such as cousins in Japan.
Technically, even in cases where there is blood relation to a certain extent it can be argued if it is incest or not (depending on the relationship that both individuals have). Like in cases where they barely know each other, can you call family or realitve somebody whom you barely know?
On the other hand, in cases where there is no blood relation at all there may be incest involved (such as somebody having sexual relations with their adoptive parents or siblings)

Although, having played this game myself... Yeah, that's incest. No way around it.
 

alex2011

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Technically, even in cases where there is blood relation to a certain extent it can be argued if it is incest or not (depending on the relationship that both individuals have). Like in cases where they barely know each other, can you call family or realitve somebody whom you barely know?
On the other hand, in cases where there is no blood relation at all there may be incest involved (such as somebody having sexual relations with their adoptive parents or siblings)

Although, having played this game myself... Yeah, that's incest. No way around it.
By definition, incest is a sexual relationship with a relative whether that relative is by blood or marriage. This is why even step siblings having a sexual relationship is illegal. It is technically considered incest regardless of how the two are related if they are, it just happens to not land anyone in jail in some countries for some relations to have a sexual relationship. With that said, I am not here to argue whether something is incest or not, my point in commenting originally was that the tag applies in this case because, even if it is legal, the fact that it is between relatives counts as far as the tag is concerned.
 

alex2011

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Actually the true definition of incest is sexual relations between close blood-related family members such as mother/son, father/daughter, brother/sister, aunt/nephew, uncle/niece, grandparent/grandchild and first cousins as these are the types of sexual relationships that can cause horrendous birth defects. Second cousins and beyond are not considered closely related as the chance of birth defects is the same as if they are unrelated. Step family are not blood-related it's not incest, just because some religious figures with a stick up their ass says it's incest too have sexual relations with them doesn't make it true.
And if you really want to get technical all humans beings in one way or another if you go back far enough are all related.
Nope, marriage and adoption are both counted as incest, hence why step siblings or adopted children can get in just as much trouble as blood siblings or children. It is often looked at in regards to fiction, such as when dealing with the distribution rules on certain websites like Patreon, as a way around said rules, but it is considered incest in almost every law against such relations on the planet. The few countries that don't ban step sibling or step parent incest are usually the same ones that don't ban loose blood relations like cousins. That said, not all countries that allow loose blood relations allow step relations. A prime example is my own country, step siblings having any kind of further relation than that of siblings is illegal here, the same for parents. Now, some areas only target marriage, one has repealed their criminal statute altogether, and some only go as far as distant blood relation, but there are laws here against incest between step relations. Examples include Alabama (Stepchild or Stepparent), American Samoa (Stepchild or Stepparent), Arkansas (Stepchild or Stepgrandchild), Colorado (Stepchild), Connecticut (Stepchild or Stepparent), District of Columbia (Stepparent), Georgia (Stepchild), Illinois (Stepchild or Stepparent), Kentucky (Stepchild or Stepparent), Maryland (Stepparent), Missouri (Stepchild), Montana (ANY step relation), Nebraska (Stepchild while a minor), New Hampshire (Stepchild), North Carolina (Stepchild), Ohio (Stepparent), Rhode Island (Stepparent), South Carolina (Stepparent), Tennessee (Stepchild or Stepparent), Texas (Stepchild or Stepparent and this continues even if the relation ceases), US Virgin Islands (Stepparent), Utah (Stepchild or Stepparent, but is nullified if the relation ceases), West Virginia (Stepchild or Stepparent), and Wyoming (Stepchild or Stepparent). Some of these examples also include relations by adoption and there are some instances of loopholes as with any law, hence why I listed specific banned relations in parentheses as well as any specific conditions to that ban if any apply. Also, don't bother asking why some bans are targeted at only one side of a pair a ban applies to, the child and not the parent for example, I don't know why, I just follow the laws, I don't make them. In regards to games, that is acceptable in my country as games are protected by the first amendment, however, they are still subject to the rules of any website or company involved with them. This is where the issue with sites like Patreon comes in as their rules specifically ban blood relations, not step or adopted relations. Long story short, it is how the party involved defines it that determines if it is incest unless they leave it undefined, in which case it is by default. In this case, I'd have to hear a more knowledgeable source about how the incest tag is treated on F95Zone, though I have seen it applied to step or adoption relations in other games.
 

alex2011

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First I already know about those laws I happen to be a Native American, Cherokee and one of the few full-bloods left.
Secondly you seem to be misunderstanding I'm going by what is ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC AND BIOLOGICAL FACT.
There is a big difference between actual fact and what religious leaders and other so-called moral authorities have ingrained society to believe and accept based on their own views and sensitivities. You're going by a legal definition that is based on a view point but not on fact.
These are also the same type of people that during the time of Aristotle that despite overwhelming scientific evidence that the earth is not flat made it a legal definition the earth is flat and people had to accept that because they said so.
Maybe being a Native American gives me more of an advantage we were always taught be our leaders to never accept anything at face value. But to pick it apart, research it and gather the facts and if it's true then accept it but if isn't true to call it out for the bullshit that is.
I mean seriously what if some geniuses decide that unless you where born as twins your brother or sister is not your brother or sister because your not twins and made it a legal definition and a law, even though the biological fact says otherwise. Could you really just blindly accept that or would call out for the bullshit that it is?

I'm not arguing about what the laws say I'm merely calling them out for the bullshit that they actually are. But I also get the hint that deep down you know those laws are bullshit.
We Native Americans view everyone no matter who they are, what color they are, or where their from as a brother or sister. So I say this to you my brother never accept anything at face value pick it apart, research it and gather the facts if it's true then accept it but if it isn't call out it. Don't walk in the Dark of blind acceptance but walk in the Light of knowledge and truth.
There is no scientific basis for incest, in fact, there would be no such thing without laws banning it to one extent or another. Incest as we know it would just be normal like it was in the medieval era. Also, you're right on that last part. I do believe those laws are total crap despite the biological implications should blood relatives procreate. Also, I'm well aware of the beliefs of the Native Americans as I am also one to an extent, though not full blooded and exactly how deep it runs is something I'm still trying to trace. My stance was more on the topic as it applies to this case, with the tag on this thread, not in real life. Most in the game industry view incest in the same way the law does, so that's why I mentioned the laws. As far as games are concerned, the tag applies no matter the relation as long as they are family just like laws on the subject in real life, but I am not sure about this site in particular.
 
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There is no scientific basis for incest, in fact, there would be no such thing without laws banning it to one extent or another. Incest as we know it would just be normal like it was in the medieval era. Also, you're right on that last part. I do believe those laws are total crap despite the biological implications should blood relatives procreate. Also, I'm well aware of the beliefs of the Native Americans as I am also one to an extent, though not full blooded and exactly how deep it runs is something I'm still trying to trace. My stance was more on the topic as it applies to this case, with the tag on this thread, not in real life. Most in the game industry view incest in the same way the law does, so that's why I mentioned the laws. As far as games are concerned, the tag applies no matter the relation as long as they are family just like laws on the subject in real life, but I am not sure about this site in particular.
Ah I see my mistake I was equating incest with inbreeding my bad. There is a tag list here in I believe the first sticky post on the first page of the Game Forum here they go by how the law has it. And good luck in your search of your ancestry.
 
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alex2011

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Ah I see my mistake I was equating incest with inbreeding my bad. There is a tag list here in I believe the first sticky post on the first page of the Game Forum here they go by how the law has it. And good luck in your search of your ancestry.
Yeah, definitely not the same. Incest and inbreeding, while related, don't always both happen. I'll check the game forum for that post, but if that is the case and they go by law, then the tag does apply.
 

zharz

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Hello. I am writing for those who complain about the low speed of collecting “Akira Points” (and even simple hard workers, too). Remember the actions:
1 Spend in the evening 2 of 3 actions.
2 We approach the sofa, activate the Debug event, and scroll through completely using ctrl.
3 After everything has returned, we again have 3 actions and now we can use all the other courtship for the girl. Well, generally good luck. I hope this works not only for me.
The toy is cool, I advise everyone, thanks to the developers and especially HUGE THANKS (I would have written more and the font does not allow it) to the translator.
Wait, how do you trigger the debug event? I kept trying on the sofa but it doesn't work.
 

McSlut

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this game is awesome. anything else like it? has the dev made anything else this quality?
 

baneini

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Very bad game. Horrible grind and most of the dialogue is unreadable mundane bs about groceries or something witless like that. The best sex scene happens at the beginning when you press the "end game" button and all the rest are lame vanilla stuff with bad censorship and certainly not worth the effort.
Art style for the girl is good, just play the game on exhentai.
 

w.iT

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Very bad game. Horrible grind and most of the dialogue is unreadable mundane bs about groceries or something witless like that. The best sex scene happens at the beginning when you press the "end game" button and all the rest are lame vanilla stuff with bad censorship and certainly not worth the effort.
Art style for the girl is good, just play the game on exhentai.
Not sure if you're a troll but ok...? Maybe this is not the game for you.
 
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