VN Ren'Py Don't Leave My Side [v0.1.2a] [Emotional Tokyo]

[YogSothoth1982]

It's a fairly long thread, but if you take the time to read through it, dev has made things fairly clear already. Amanda is not meant to be an LI, she's basically just a plot device to push MC to change. Dev has stated that this will be, primarily, a harem game. LIs will be introduced shortly, who will be loyal to MC. Dev has hinted at Oliver being a major character, which could be part of a future optional NTR route, but not really clear on that point yet.

I haven't actually played it yet, but given what dev has said so far, I'm looking forward to trying it out next update, when actual LIs start appearing.

Actually, after trying out the game, I got the impression that NTR doesn't happen at all if you choose the no NTR option. Anyway, Amanda is still a slut who's better off going far away and not coming back.

And the MC's ex-girlfriend looks like she's going to be a LI.

Also, the MC was smart enough to get evidence of whatever is going on in the living room, so in the next update we'll see if NTR happened or not. What it's sure is that he knows that Amanda is a manipulatibe bitch.

Really good game so far. It's now on my "immediate download while getting muh cock out" list. The models are hot. It gets a bit confusing at times with who's manipulating who and some continuity mistakes with a few conversations not lining up with previous choices. But I'm on board. Y'all can argue about NTR or whatever, but Dev, I'm gonna need that backstory of how sweet, innocent Sadie in the flashback became the alcoholic, drugged up super slut we see.

The truth is that I find the Sadie of the past much more appealing than the one of the present.

I don't know if it's just me, but the sex scenes are black screens so you don't see anything that's going on.

 

[TsubameYui]

Really good game so far. It's now on my "immediate download while getting muh cock out" list. The models are hot. It gets a bit confusing at times with who's manipulating who and some continuity mistakes with a few conversations not lining up with previous choices. But I'm on board. Y'all can argue about NTR or whatever, but Dev, I'm gonna need that backstory of how sweet, innocent Sadie in the flashback became the alcoholic, drugged up super slut we see.

Actually, after trying out the game, I got the impression that NTR doesn't happen at all if you choose the no NTR option. Anyway, Amanda is still a slut who's better off going far away and not coming back.

And the MC's ex-girlfriend looks like she's going to be a LI.

Also, the MC was smart enough to get evidence of whatever is going on in the living room, so in the next update we'll see if NTR happened or not. What it's sure is that he knows that Amanda is a manipulatibe bitch.



The truth is that I find the Sadie of the past much more appealing than the one of the present.

I don't know if it's just me, but the sex scenes are black screens so you don't see anything that's going on.

Here's a quote from dev from a while back regarding Sadie that I feel got severely overlooked by everyone commenting about her.

No. The other girls aren't as slutty as Amanda. Sadie's a bit of a slut too, but she's not a cheater. She left home because she had her reasons (spoiler avoided, but you can imagine).
She wouldn't do what Amanda does. (The fact is that Sadie is much less of a slut than she wants to appear. She just wants to give Ronny the impression that she doesn't need him and doesn't care.)

Seems Sadie is mostly just putting up a front for Ronny.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Here's a quote from dev from a while back regarding Sadie that I feel got severely overlooked by everyone commenting about her.



Seems Sadie is mostly just putting up a front for Ronny.

What worries me the most about her is that she looks like a femdom LI. I can't be sure because the sex scenes weren't visible, but the feeling is there.

 

[fh321]

Wait are you for real TsubameYui ? This is going to be a harem game? I mean... . I guess that's ambitious, but the dev could not have picked two audiences that hate each other's tropes more than NTR fans ("why doesn't every guy fuck the LI?!? This game is for vanilla f**s rarrrrr!!!") and harem fans ("the Daz model that appeared on-screen for 90 seconds just kissed another guy! My life is over!!"). It's a bold strategy, let's see if it pays off for him.... but the thought that anyone in the game finds the loser MC attractive is enough for me hop off this ride here.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

On ntr route she treat MC like total trash, she also portray herself for a crazy total slut who love cocks & pussies. MC get very angry during that conversation and you have a choice to hit her, literally he KO her.

So yea, perfect gf material

I didn't know she had an NTR route. That pretty much contradicts what Dev stated earlier about Sadie not cheating on the MC.

 

[TsubameYui]

Wait are you for real TsubameYui ? This is going to be a harem game? I mean... . I guess that's ambitious, but the dev could not have picked two audiences that hate each other's tropes more than NTR fans ("why doesn't every guy fuck the LI?!? This game is for vanilla f**s rarrrrr!!!") and harem fans ("the Daz model that appeared on-screen for 90 seconds just kissed another guy! My life is over!!"). It's a bold strategy, let's see if it pays off for him.... but the thought that anyone in the game finds the loser MC attractive is enough for me hop off this ride here.

Yeah, mixing those 2 tags is usually a trainwreck. One side is always left disappointed. Both sides complain that their route doesn't get enough content, and NTR route always bleeds into vanilla/harem route. So far, though, the NTR stuff seems to be focused purely on Amanda, who dev has stated isn't really meant to be an LI, rather than just a plot device. I can't say 100%, but it sounds like dev's plan is to go full harem game after the party, and introducing a whole cast of new LIs. He made some cryptic remarks about Oliver's future role, though, and I'm not sure what to make of that. He did state outright, though, that all the future LIs will be for MC only, so Oliver's could be tied specifically to Amanda, or he may be an antagonist, unsuccessfully attempting to steal MC's girls or something. That's just my own theorycrafting, though.

I didn't know she had an NTR route. That pretty much contradicts what Dev stated earlier about Sadie not cheating on the MC.

I think MixQQ was referring to Amanda's NTR route. As in, if you make the choices that have Amanda slutting it up with Oliver, Sadie reacts badly. Sadie seems like a tsundere or possibly yandere character. Seems like she's either acting jealous, or protective over him, since she knows Amanda is trash.

 

[Lytefall]

I downloaded the Mac, But I'm stuck I don't know what to do next. I extracted the Zip and it just shows me a File now (DLMS - IOS) file. If anyone knows what to do Please let me know Thank you.
edited: (I am trying to download and play on Mac, But when I download the zip file and extract it. The file that comes from the zip is called (DLMS- IOS) and if i open the file i don't see "application" anywhere in that file.

 

[Taven Val]

I downloaded the Mac, But I'm stuck I don't know what to do next. I extracted the Zip and it just shows me a File now (DLMS - IOS) file. If anyone knows what to do Please let me know Thank you.

me too, I think he meant it's only for IOS, so iphone

EmotionalTokyo.Games pls let us know if this can be played on macbook. Thank you!

 

[Feru452ax]

Game is good, renders are good, but the updates take too long to be released and are too short.

I didn't know she had an NTR route. That pretty much contradicts what Dev stated earlier about Sadie not cheating on the MC.

Its not a NTR route for Saddie. The NTR route is for Amanda. If you pick Amanda NTR route, Saddie acts kinda like a bitch that only dated you because there was nothing better at her disposal, that she wasnt really horny on you.
But its clear she's full of BS and only jealous about Amanda.

 

[Negate]

It is true that for the narrative point it would be fine, but imagine what would happen if they hid the ntr thing and out of nowhere they threw the surprise in future updates when the people who follow them are fans of the no ntr, a disaster would be generated worse than this Now that the game is starting.

True, but if the NTR is just skippable right now and not avoidable...that disaster is coming anyway.

 

[Nimbus Commando]

OK so the MCs so-called friends are trash that need to get the shit beat out of them and the girl he likes for some reason no idea why is a whore and his EX GF is a fucking bitch did I get that right? The MC needs to hit the gym and leave this dump of a town after beating up his so-called friends of course, then go and get some better women plus I would not even consider it NTR Amanda is fucking trash anyway forget that hoe she will be a single mother soon enough.

 

[Ser Lordypants]

but the thought that anyone in the game finds the loser MC attractive is enough for me hop off this ride here.

What, budget Bobby Hill being lord of the harem isn't believable enough for you?

 

[nut001001]

new update,Thanks

 

[micojive]

Yeah, mixing those 2 tags is usually a trainwreck. One side is always left disappointed. Both sides complain that their route doesn't get enough content, and NTR route always bleeds into vanilla/harem route. So far, though, the NTR stuff seems to be focused purely on Amanda, who dev has stated isn't really meant to be an LI, rather than just a plot device. I can't say 100%, but it sounds like dev's plan is to go full harem game after the party, and introducing a whole cast of new LIs. He made some cryptic remarks about Oliver's future role, though, and I'm not sure what to make of that. He did state outright, though, that all the future LIs will be for MC only, so Oliver's could be tied specifically to Amanda, or he may be an antagonist, unsuccessfully attempting to steal MC's girls or something. That's just my own theorycrafting, though.

I dont really care about NTR or non NTR as I'll just play what I like. But if the Dev really doesnt consider Amanda a LI he/she has seriously messed up the intro for the story and how characters are introduced. Because as someone who hasnt dug through the comments that doesnt come across in game or description at all.

Reading the description and playing the intro 100% leads me to believe its a game about convincing Amanda to stay with the MC and ditch the unseen BF.

Honestly if the game isnt about Amanda....then what is it about? The literal name of the game is Don't Leave my Side.

 

[TsubameYui]

I dont really care about NTR or non NTR as I'll just play what I like. But if the Dev really doesnt consider Amanda a LI he/she has seriously messed up the intro for the story and how characters are introduced. Because as someone who hasnt dug through the comments that doesnt come across in game or description at all.

Reading the description and playing the intro 100% leads me to believe its a game about convincing Amanda to stay with the MC and ditch the unseen BF.

Honestly if the game isnt about Amanda....then what is it about? The literal name of the game is Don't Leave my Side.

Gonna go ahead and inline spoiler this bit, it covers stuff from the very end of the current version. Read at your own risk!
At the end of the current version, it becomes very clear that Ronny has discovered what a manipulative, horrible, shitbag Amanda really is. He's decided to give up on her. The last scene shows him checking the footage from his camera that caught Oliver and Amanda. If you chose the NTR route, he'll see Amanda facefucking herself on Oliver's cock right in front of him. If you chose the non-NTR route, he'll see Amanda blackmailing Oliver into fucking her before she leaves, confirming what Oliver told him about her at the end. Either route seems to lead to the same realization for Ronny, though. He is no longer in love with Amanda. I agree that dev should make it clear up-front that Amanda wasn't ever meant to be an LI, as a lot of people will likely quit the game before learning that at the end of chapter 1.

The main difference between the NTR and non-NTR routes seems to be Sadie's approach to Ronny. On the NTR route, she behaves like a yandere character. She goes a bit insane, and tries to convince Ronny that she doesn't care about him, and that she's just a worthless slut herself. On the non-NTR route, she's much more rational, and a tsundere character at most. She makes it pretty clear she cares about him, and even though she still plays up her false slutty persona somewhat, she makes it clear that she never gave up on Ronny.

Sadie(and possibly the psychologist) seems to be the only actual LI(s) presented in the current version, but since dev has stated that this is going to be a harem game, and Sadie and Ronny's sister(also a future LI) are very close, they'll likely be the first harem members. This next part is just my speculation, but it seems that Sadie and Alice(Ronny's sister) have been living together for the last year, probably working on some master plan to help Ronny. Could be a harem plan, or just a plan to expose Amanda's true nature to Ronny, which would seem to have succeeded before the party even started.

Sorry for the rant. This game got trashed hard when it first came out, but after giving the reworked version a shot, I actually really like the story a lot. I'm really looking forward to the next update to see how all this craziness shakes out. Thanks EmotionalTokyo.Games for your persistence. I love your art style. Your characters are well-written, even if extremely unlikeable. Your writing is exceptional. I really hope you keep up the great work.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Yeah, mixing those 2 tags is usually a trainwreck. One side is always left disappointed. Both sides complain that their route doesn't get enough content, and NTR route always bleeds into vanilla/harem route. So far, though, the NTR stuff seems to be focused purely on Amanda, who dev has stated isn't really meant to be an LI, rather than just a plot device. I can't say 100%, but it sounds like dev's plan is to go full harem game after the party, and introducing a whole cast of new LIs. He made some cryptic remarks about Oliver's future role, though, and I'm not sure what to make of that. He did state outright, though, that all the future LIs will be for MC only, so Oliver's could be tied specifically to Amanda, or he may be an antagonist, unsuccessfully attempting to steal MC's girls or something. That's just my own theorycrafting, though.

Well, according to the Dev, Amanda will only be a LI if the player insists on getting her. I'm not sure anyone wants her as the MC's girlfriend, I won't miss her while she's gone, but maybe someone will like her.

I think MixQQ was referring to Amanda's NTR route. As in, if you make the choices that have Amanda slutting it up with Oliver, Sadie reacts badly. Sadie seems like a tsundere or possibly yandere character. Seems like she's either acting jealous, or protective over him, since she knows Amanda is trash.

Its not a NTR route for Saddie. The NTR route is for Amanda. If you pick Amanda NTR route, Saddie acts kinda like a bitch that only dated you because there was nothing better at her disposal, that she wasnt really horny on you.
But its clear she's full of BS and only jealous about Amanda.

Ok, I guess I misunderstood. In any case, I personally prefer to go the way where the MC is cool with the ex-girlfriend. First because I'm not sure why he broke up with her and the truth is that if I have to choose between Amanda and her, Amanda loses hands down (although if I have to choose between Amanda and the MC ending up alone, I'll also choose the second option, anything is better than making the MC try to be with Amanda)

Gonna go ahead and inline spoiler this bit, it covers stuff from the very end of the current version. Read at your own risk!
At the end of the current version, it becomes very clear that Ronny has discovered what a manipulative, horrible, shitbag Amanda really is. He's decided to give up on her. The last scene shows him checking the footage from his camera that caught Oliver and Amanda. If you chose the NTR route, he'll see Amanda facefucking herself on Oliver's cock right in front of him. If you chose the non-NTR route, he'll see Amanda blackmailing Oliver into fucking her before she leaves, confirming what Oliver told him about her at the end. Either route seems to lead to the same realization for Ronny, though. He is no longer in love with Amanda. I agree that dev should make it clear up-front that Amanda wasn't ever meant to be an LI, as a lot of people will likely quit the game before learning that at the end of chapter 1.

The main difference between the NTR and non-NTR routes seems to be Sadie's approach to Ronny. On the NTR route, she behaves like a yandere character. She goes a bit insane, and tries to convince Ronny that she doesn't care about him, and that she's just a worthless slut herself. On the non-NTR route, she's much more rational, and a tsundere character at most. She makes it pretty clear she cares about him, and even though she still plays up her false slutty persona somewhat, she makes it clear that she never gave up on Ronny.

Sadie(and possibly the psychologist) seems to be the only actual LI(s) presented in the current version, but since dev has stated that this is going to be a harem game, and Sadie and Ronny's sister(also a future LI) are very close, they'll likely be the first harem members. This next part is just my speculation, but it seems that Sadie and Alice(Ronny's sister) have been living together for the last year, probably working on some master plan to help Ronny. Could be a harem plan, or just a plan to expose Amanda's true nature to Ronny, which would seem to have succeeded before the party even started.

Sorry for the rant. This game got trashed hard when it first came out, but after giving the reworked version a shot, I actually really like the story a lot. I'm really looking forward to the next update to see how all this craziness shakes out. Thanks EmotionalTokyo.Games for your persistence. I love your art style. Your characters are well-written, even if extremely unlikeable. Your writing is exceptional. I really hope you keep up the great work.

After playing this version, I think the game might be worth it, obviously it's too early to say, but the improvement is considerable and the MC seems to be smarter than in the previous version. So I hope he sends Amanda to hell.

 

[Nimbus Commando]

The new version is way better, still was hoping for an option to smash Olivers face in.

 

[micojive]

Gonna go ahead and inline spoiler this bit, it covers stuff from the very end of the current version. Read at your own risk!
At the end of the current version, it becomes very clear that Ronny has discovered what a manipulative, horrible, shitbag Amanda really is. He's decided to give up on her. The last scene shows him checking the footage from his camera that caught Oliver and Amanda. If you chose the NTR route, he'll see Amanda facefucking herself on Oliver's cock right in front of him. If you chose the non-NTR route, he'll see Amanda blackmailing Oliver into fucking her before she leaves, confirming what Oliver told him about her at the end. Either route seems to lead to the same realization for Ronny, though. He is no longer in love with Amanda. I agree that dev should make it clear up-front that Amanda wasn't ever meant to be an LI, as a lot of people will likely quit the game before learning that at the end of chapter 1.

The main difference between the NTR and non-NTR routes seems to be Sadie's approach to Ronny. On the NTR route, she behaves like a yandere character. She goes a bit insane, and tries to convince Ronny that she doesn't care about him, and that she's just a worthless slut herself. On the non-NTR route, she's much more rational, and a tsundere character at most. She makes it pretty clear she cares about him, and even though she still plays up her false slutty persona somewhat, she makes it clear that she never gave up on Ronny.

Sadie(and possibly the psychologist) seems to be the only actual LI(s) presented in the current version, but since dev has stated that this is going to be a harem game, and Sadie and Ronny's sister(also a future LI) are very close, they'll likely be the first harem members. This next part is just my speculation, but it seems that Sadie and Alice(Ronny's sister) have been living together for the last year, probably working on some master plan to help Ronny. Could be a harem plan, or just a plan to expose Amanda's true nature to Ronny, which would seem to have succeeded before the party even started.

Sorry for the rant. This game got trashed hard when it first came out, but after giving the reworked version a shot, I actually really like the story a lot. I'm really looking forward to the next update to see how all this craziness shakes out. Thanks EmotionalTokyo.Games for your persistence. I love your art style. Your characters are well-written, even if extremely unlikeable. Your writing is exceptional. I really hope you keep up the great work.

I'll be honest, again without reading comments or doing anything more than reading the description I immediately turned down Sadie because she comes off as crazy ex gf and I didnt want any part of that messing with getting Amanda back. Turned down Sadie at every opportunity.

Again, because it feels like its the correct thing to do if the goal is to get Amanda to change her mind.

And I really dont agree with the final and the camera bit. We just dont know enough yet, and from what we have seen Ronnie is just a pushover who will do anything to please Amanda, it very well could be him saying he is going to go after oliver and nothing to do with Amanda.

Even the end screen grab leaves the "decision" up to Amanda, not the MC.



That doesnt scream to me someone over a girl and going to move on in a story.

To me the story really needs to decide what direction its going to take, and actually get the player moving that direction because it feels like it is telling the player to do one thing, but is actually moving in another direction if what the dev says is true in comments.

 

[Negate]

My biggest problem is I don't really want to help the MC succeed at anything. I also don't want anyone else to succeed. Right now the "Good Ending" for me is that Ronnie murders everyone at the party and then caps himself.

 

[duckydoodoo]

didnt care for the previous version, seemed like it could be entertaining but missed the mark. spose i can try out the rework, seems like most comments agree its better now.