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RomanHume some advice - NEVER install updates! :ROFLMAO:


Only half kidding there
Believe me, I was kicking myself hardcore over that shit because I fucking know better and was in such a rush I flew into it like a moron.

As a side note, after I got the driver rolled back and thought things were working, I open up the output folder to find everything was rendered in black. So new daz requires new driver, new driver throws error in the daz queueing system. It was a big circular cluster fuck.

Fortunately I had a recent system image and was able to just roll everything back by three weeks to a state in which everything was working. In the future, I'll install updates on the laptop first and thoroughly test them before rolling it out on the big machine.

Again, I'm smarter than that and know better, but I've been scrambling and it led to bad choices.
 

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RomanHume I think the Problem was simply that all those "Update Next Week"-Posts set certain expectations. I think the lesson here is to not announce stuff like that before it is a sure thing.

All your real fans appreciate your difficult Situation and Commitment to this project. There are a lot of devs on here who can only dream of even accomplishing what you already did, let alone what is yet to come.

We believe in you and appreciate all your hard work!
You're absolutely right and I take full blame for that one. There were several times I had high expectations of myself and my availability and really thought I'd get farther than I have. I am currently suspending all estimations of release until I have been doing this for a few months on my own.

I figure once I have three or four solo releases under my belt I'll have a much better idea of how to properly estimate my deadlines.

But yeah, I take full blame for the ones I missed and the ones I unintentionally misrepresented, but misrepresented all the same.
 

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I appreciate all the work you've done in the past for giving some players an angle in the story that they wanted and I wasn't allowed to provide.

Due to all of the behind the scenes changes in the code that will roll out with this next update, I'm hoping to implement the "pet names" system in the current version of the game. This will hopefully alleviate the need for further patches of this type.

Again, thank you for work on this. I'm sure you've helped some people enjoy my game who otherwise might not have for lack of a fetish. Cheers mate!
thank you man that means a lot to me.I like your game and i can´t wait for the next version.My problem what i have is that i had an job interview and i basically don't know how i can manage the incest patchs in the future.I hope that i know more on monday.I work at the moment on 6 incest patches what including your game too.With the "pet name" i have read your comment here but the problem what i see is in the script file cassie01.rpy the label cassie01 there are 6 text lines where 3 from then must delete and the other 3 must change.I mean the lines 145 - 151 and of course a few text lines from the scipt files cassie02a.rpy, cassie02b.rpy and from Emily01.rpy where there only must change the text lines itself what they say instead delete a few text lines.The only thing i can offer is if you can't make it with the "pat names" in the upcoming update then i'll update the incest patch. But i can't say when i can do it.
 

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Believe me, I was kicking myself hardcore over that shit because I fucking know better and was in such a rush I flew into it like a moron.

As a side note, after I got the driver rolled back and thought things were working, I open up the output folder to find everything was rendered in black. So new daz requires new driver, new driver throws error in the daz queueing system. It was a big circular cluster fuck.

Fortunately I had a recent system image and was able to just roll everything back by three weeks to a state in which everything was working. In the future, I'll install updates on the laptop first and thoroughly test them before rolling it out on the big machine.

Again, I'm smarter than that and know better, but I've been scrambling and it led to bad choices.
Ain't never done that before! :p
 

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Most reasonable people understand to one extent or another that it's hard to estimate creative effort and I think that everyone should understand that this is a part-time passion project. I think that some people get upset when an implied contract (e.g. not delivering updates to donors on target dates) is not honored but I think most of us realize that your not estimating a roofing job.

Keep up the good work!
 

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Most reasonable people understand to one extent or another that it's hard to estimate creative effort and I think that everyone should understand that this is a part-time passion project. I think that some people get upset when an implied contract (e.g. not delivering updates to donors on target dates) is not honored but I think most of us realize that your not estimating a roofing job.

Keep up the good work!
In my personal opinion, one of the issues is the amazing work that was done before. There were updates on the dot every two weeks, with a communication on the website every week and Roman could have made a rod for their own back in that respect.

When delays occur to this magnitude, its human nature for people to be saying "how comes I'm not getting what I was getting a few months ago".

Its only a minority of people that can sit back and try and understand
RomanHume's change of circumstances.

But then again, its fairly obvious that anyone that writes more than a couple of words is a true supporter, as the people who aren't just want a free porn game so dont bother to say more than "wheres the update"!!!
 

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The way i see it is the longer ppl have to wait for an update the harder it is to satisfy ppl, there come a point when you just have to take the fall and release something even if it isnt up to your standard like for example No Man Sky. It would of course be the dev decision to release it or not but by not releasing anything at all the hype and hope that the coming game version will have this and that, and when that hype and hope not met it could kill a game pretty quick lastest example of this is of course Anthem. i've followed the game since the start and i just want to say something before it either go to shit or become something like DmD, Milf city etc...
 
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What do you mean by "become something like DmD, Milfy City etc"? DmD gets an update on a regular basis every 3 months and Milfy City had a break, but from what I know the dev came back after a month or two and picked up where he left.
 
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What do you mean by "become something like DmD, Milfy City etc"? DmD gets an update on a regular basis every 3 months and Milfy City had a break, but from what I know the dev came back after a month or two and picked up where he left.
While english isnt my 1st language, im sure that from reading the whole sentence you can get the point im trying to make which is that this game could be abandoned and everything went to shit or it could be something whole and beautiful like DmD, Milf city. The point isnt to compare this game to DmD etc but to show that it has potential.
 
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Try being a WWII flight sim addict a few months is nothing..try four years. I know you can't compare the two because of the longevity and the crazy detail you can get into immersion wise with the flight sim....hem hem...Check your 6 everybody. :)
 
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While english isnt my 1st language, im sure that from reading the whole sentence you can get the point im trying to make which is that this game could be abandoned and everything went to shit or it could be something whole and beautiful like DmD, Milf city. The point isnt to compare this game to DmD etc but to show that it has potential.
It is funny you use Milfy City as an example of a game not abandoned, when it's getting there, and every game he ever made before it DID get abandoned, or nearly so.
 

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It is funny you use Milfy City as an example of a game not abandoned, when it's getting there, and every game he ever made before it DID get abandoned, or nearly so.
I don't think so. Some people feel a prior game or two of theirs was rushed at their end, but they haven't actually been abandoned. And the Dev took time off after falling behind this year, offering a very public notice of exhaustion. They have have since come back and offered an August delivery for the next installment.

ICSTOR only delivers when it's ready in their eyes. RomanHume is viewing their deliverable requirements in a similar manner at a high level, I feel (at least for this installment). I have never felt this game (or MILFY CITY) was in fear of abandonment, just lots of work to do for busy, tired Devs.
 

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I don't think so. Some people feel a prior game or two of theirs was rushed at their end, but they haven't actually been abandoned. And the Dev took time off after falling behind this year, offering a very public notice of exhaustion. They have have since come back and offered an August delivery for the next installment.

ICSTOR only delivers when it's ready in their eyes. RomanHume is viewing their deliverable requirements in a similar manner at a high level, I feel (at least for this installment). I have never felt this game (or MILFY CITY) was in fear of abandonment, just lots of work to do for busy, tired Devs.
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Luckily, I don't get the same feelings from this game at all, despite the setbacks, he keeps plugging forward, I really don't see this game ending the same way, and we don't see the same, 'focus only on the incest' patterns.
 

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we don't see the same, 'focus only on the incest' patterns.
This game has no "Incest" or have you been installing naughty mods? ;)

TBH I don't think it's that bad that the updates take a while (as long as they are equal to that delay in actual content) since I don't even remember all that much now and so i can experience it again when the update drops and I start a new game.
 

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This game has no "Incest" or have you been installing naughty mods? ;)

TBH I don't think it's that bad that the updates take a while (as long as they are equal to that delay in actual content) since I don't even remember all that much now and so i can experience it again when the update drops and I start a new game.
Hard to focus on what's not there? :whistle: But seriously, I like the way he spreads the love around, so to speak, less likely someone will get left behind. Of course being a non-open world also prevents that a bit.

I would much rather see them take their time and get the best updates we can get. Rushing has a tendency to produce sloppy work and no one wants that.
 
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Luckily, I don't get the same feelings from this game at all, despite the setbacks, he keeps plugging forward, I really don't see this game ending the same way, and we don't see the same, 'focus only on the incest' patterns.
Robot's Touch was completed! :p
 
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2019-07-09 News Update

So here we are. Not where I want to be, but when things are out of your control, they're simply out of your control and you have to make due.

In the most un-ideal of circumstances, I'm being called out of town on business for the next couple of weeks. During that time, I'll have an opportunity to work on the game's story and coding, but rendering, the one thing that is holding up the current update, will not be happening.

You have been so generously patient with me and I would not dare ask you to wait until August for your update. Despite my attempts to scramble this week and get everything done, I have to face the reality that I just don't have the computing power to render out as much as I need to finish the chapter.

So here's what we're going to do. I'm finishing up the Lola sex and post sex scenes. This concludes Scene 04, the monster of a scene that has been the bear I've wrestled with for the last month. Once the renders are finished (approximately 16 hours from now) I'm going to wrap up post and get the code integrated and finished.

I'll release the first half of this chapter before I leave, and upon my return, promptly finish up the second half and get it out to you.

The second half will go much faster as it is predominately conversation and text with fewer angles, shots and locations than the first four scenes.

I'm not going to lie and say that this first half is going to be the feast you've been waiting for, but hopefully it'll stand as testimony to the work being done (the first half contains over 550 renders, has one optional transgender character, and you'll choose one of three possible paths through the scene which will impact your later game). It will feature a sexual encounter with Lita, or optionally if you prefer transgender content, Lola. And the new sex menus are implemented, tested, and working excellently.

Because of all the changes that have been made to the underlying code, you will have to download the entire game. But I have done everything I can to make sure your old saves work. I'm praying no bugs surface on that front.
However, after this update, patrons will have the option of just downloading the new content. So when I return from work and release the second half of this chapter, you will not need to re-download the whole game, but instead just the files needed for the new content.

I very much wanted to wait until the entire chapter was done and release it as one big push, but unfortunately the "real job blues" are relentless this time of the year.

To keep the renders going while I'm gone, I am going to try and set up a method of remoting into the desktop, but it's storm season here in the South U.S. and power interruptions are frequent and I'll have no way to reboot the system if that happens. So we'll see how much I can do away from the desk.

That's all for now, but you'll hear from me very shortly.

Cheers!
 

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Most reasonable people understand to one extent or another that it's hard to estimate creative effort and I think that everyone should understand that this is a part-time passion project. I think that some people get upset when an implied contract (e.g. not delivering updates to donors on target dates) is not honored but I think most of us realize that your not estimating a roofing job.

Keep up the good work!
I agree. But I did have a run where I was giving estimates that I ended up not hitting. Part of this was due to unforeseen complications, others were simply me grossly over estimating what I could accomplish in a time frame.

I'm going to hold off on eta's for a few months until I've got some solo development time under my belt and more accurately put a date on things. But I appreciate the encouragement all the same! Thanks mate.


In my personal opinion, one of the issues is the amazing work that was done before. There were updates on the dot every two weeks, with a communication on the website every week and Roman could have made a rod for their own back in that respect.

When delays occur to this magnitude, its human nature for people to be saying "how comes I'm not getting what I was getting a few months ago".

Its only a minority of people that can sit back and try and understand
RomanHume's change of circumstances.

But then again, its fairly obvious that anyone that writes more than a couple of words is a true supporter, as the people who aren't just want a free porn game so dont bother to say more than "wheres the update"!!!
My community engagement has definitely been slipping, but again that's a result in the lack of time I have on project. When I have an hour or two available, I have to choose, do I scan the forums and patreon comments and write responses, or do I try to jam out another ten renders.

It's all about finding that balance that gets everything done efficiently. I know that after 200+ renders, I'm definitely faster at manipulating all of the elements in Daz needed for a good scene. So as experience builds I'm confident things will speed up as well.

I think before the year is done we'll be back to where we were with communication, updates, etc. I just have to get my stride.

The way i see it is the longer ppl have to wait for an update the harder it is to satisfy ppl, there come a point when you just have to take the fall and release something even if it isnt up to your standard like for example No Man Sky. It would of course be the dev decision to release it or not but by not releasing anything at all the hype and hope that the coming game version will have this and that, and when that hype and hope not met it could kill a game pretty quick lastest example of this is of course Anthem. i've followed the game since the start and i just want to say something before it either go to shit or become something like DmD, Milf city etc...
You're absolutely right. Because the longer you take to make a small update, the more people are let down. That's one reason I'm biting the bullet and just going to let loose the first half of this next update. With the real job constantly encroaching on my development time, I just can't let this keep dragging out.

On the upside, summer is the busy time at work. When fall and winter roll around, things slow a bit and I've got a lot more leeway. If I can get to the middle of August, my production time should definitely increase considerably.

Try being a WWII flight sim addict a few months is nothing..try four years. I know you can't compare the two because of the longevity and the crazy detail you can get into immersion wise with the flight sim....hem hem...Check your 6 everybody. :)
Ok, WWII Flight Sim, sounds awesome as hell.

What about the next update?
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It is funny you use Milfy City as an example of a game not abandoned, when it's getting there, and every game he ever made before it DID get abandoned, or nearly so.
Just gonna throw out that Mifly City is one of my all time favorites. I patiently wait for each update because I know I won't be disappointed. And if he abandoned it tomorrow, I'll still enjoy everything I got up till now. So so good!

I don't think so. Some people feel a prior game or two of theirs was rushed at their end, but they haven't actually been abandoned. And the Dev took time off after falling behind this year, offering a very public notice of exhaustion. They have have since come back and offered an August delivery for the next installment.

ICSTOR only delivers when it's ready in their eyes. RomanHume is viewing their deliverable requirements in a similar manner at a high level, I feel (at least for this installment). I have never felt this game (or MILFY CITY) was in fear of abandonment, just lots of work to do for busy, tired Devs.
And to be fair, if I ever thought I was in danger of abandoning the game, I'd immediately suspend and let everyone know. Fortunately, I have the inverse problem. Too much story, too much enthusiasm, and too much passion with too little time.

But to me quality is super important because it's one of the tings that led us to create our own game in the beginning. At the time there just felt to be a lack of quality. There were only a tiny handful of games I had played that felt quality. A number have stepped up since, but still. It was a corner stone of the project. We wanted the best renders we could do and I plan to keep that keystone in place.

I've done about 300 of the 550 renders currently available in the first half of this update. And by the 200th render, I definitely felt I was getting faster at setting up and managing the scene. I like to think that if I haven't maintained Fecal's quality, that I've improved up on it.

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This game has no "Incest" or have you been installing naughty mods? ;)

TBH I don't think it's that bad that the updates take a while (as long as they are equal to that delay in actual content) since I don't even remember all that much now and so i can experience it again when the update drops and I start a new game.
That's right, no incest! None!

I'm hoping that quality is worth it in the long run. Fingers crossed!
 
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