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Letting her live with someone that appears to be in therapy for sex addictions? Poor parenting! hahaWhat's funny about it? Her parents are busy people and the poor girl needs a home. Not taking her in would have just been heartless.
This is great news! One of the things that kept me checking in with the game was the updates, when the shit hit the fan and you went dark I kind of just stopped checking.I used to post regular updates on the progress and kind of slipped when I was busy learning to do the Renpy coding and Daz work. Now that I've got all that under my thumb I plan to get back to regular weekly updates. But it's my pleasure to share.
Like it or love it man, its a Mexican drink. In fact it legally cant even be called Tequila unless its made in Mexico as it has a protected heritage. If you see someone drinking tea and talking English your brain doesn't jump to American or Canadian or Australian, it jumps to British so stereotypes are bound to happen whether you drink it or not.It seems that you are the one interested in Mexican stereotypes and you are the one that keeps pushing it. I am from Mexico and I hate Tequila
I get what you're saying, we all have an opinion and I'm just chiming in myself but calling out a stereotype while stereotyping should get you called out.Like it or love it man, its a Mexican drink. In fact it legally cant even be called Tequila unless its made in Mexico as it has a protected heritage. If you see someone drinking tea and talking English your brain doesn't jump to American or Canadian or Australian, it jumps to British so stereotypes are bound to happen whether you drink it or not.
I am British, I hate Gin and real Ale - it doesn't stop real ale (and its glass) being a stereotypically British thing. See below for a photo of the fucking horrible stuff. EDIT - I just realised the photo is even called "British Dimpled Glass pint jug with ale" when all I searched for was ale glass.
That being said (and it has been mentioned before) your favourite drink doesn't have to be from your country - I myself favour Cuban Rum, so the fact that Lupita is Bolivian doesn't bother me in the slightest. I just think that you should lay off the man for giving an opinion as it is just that.... an opinion..... something that everyone is entitled to.
I apologize if my response was a bit on the attack. But I do a great deal of research when building and designing my characters (in fact it was almost impossible at the time of design to find a Daz model that looked even remotely hispanic. I ended up having to create much of the materials and stuff myself because it just wasn't there in abundance.)Look man I don't mean to offend you, the game is pretty good. But she doesn't feel bolivian and I stick by that. I am not saying this out of some social justice desire to prove you wrong, so I'll try to phrase it in a constructive way. I am from Chile, so it's not like I have a perfect knowledge on bolivians, but we do have a lot of them in here.
Guadalupe is a spanish name, but it's most popular in mexico and by a lot because of how important Santa maria de Guadalupe is to them. Bolivia has strong ties to their native american origins, so a native american name or lastname would feel more in order.
Didn't know our neighbours produced so much coke, kudos to them I suppose. Still, if you are from Bolivia and in search for better oportunities you don't usually go to the US, unless you have money. Going to the US is pretty expensive and can be hard. Whereas going from bolivia to chile, or viceversa, is so easy you barely need a passport. But I guess this one is more of a posible plot-hook.
And the tequila is not a problem in and of itself. But if I add it up with the rest it becomes Guadalupe Rosales who came to the US in search of a better future, is a single mother, her husband got in trouble with coke and her drink of choice is tequila. Tequila being a typicall mexican drink.
You said that you aren't interested in the typical mexican stereotype, but this feels like that. One of the most common Mexican names, single mother, criminal husband and with tequila on top.
Now honestly this isn't really that important. It just irks me a lot.
While I appreciate this, can we agree that the statistical probability of Roger having Singani in his home liquor cabinet is near zero?On this I disagree: tequila is a Mexico-centric drink. Singani is Bolivia's national liquor and is coincidentally produced in a manner that's similar to tequila:
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Yes, because I was being a bit bookish on purpose!While I appreciate this, can we agree that the statistical probability of Roger having Singani in his home liquor cabinet is near zero?
Very glad to have you back! I have to get through the next couple of weeks and then things will settle down again. I'll get another update out and then hopefully get back to streaming and what-not. My big goal from this point forward is consistency. Consistency in updates, distributions and information. So here's to a strong second-half of the year.This is great news! One of the things that kept me checking in with the game was the updates, when the shit hit the fan and you went dark I kind of just stopped checking.
Planner looks great btw, and all the little additions you have put/are putting in really fit the game and make it feel a lot more interactive than "just another visual novel"
On the topic of alcohol, I only like a couple of brands of Gin, but by it's nature there can be a good deal of variance between them so I guess that's expected.Like it or love it man, its a Mexican drink. In fact it legally cant even be called Tequila unless its made in Mexico as it has a protected heritage. If you see someone drinking tea and talking English your brain doesn't jump to American or Canadian or Australian, it jumps to British so stereotypes are bound to happen whether you drink it or not.
I am British, I hate Gin and real Ale - it doesn't stop real ale (and its glass) being a stereotypically British thing. See below for a photo of the fucking horrible stuff. EDIT - I just realised the photo is even called "British Dimpled Glass pint jug with ale" when all I searched for was ale glass.
That being said (and it has been mentioned before) your favourite drink doesn't have to be from your country - I myself favour Cuban Rum, so the fact that Lupita is Bolivian doesn't bother me in the slightest. I just think that you should lay off the man for giving an opinion as it is just that.... an opinion..... something that everyone is entitled to.
You may be stereotyping sterotypers ...Well stereotypes exists, and are perpetuated by media, mostly from outsiders.
I always took stereotypes being lazy, "why to know people when I can put the same label on everybody?".You may be stereotyping sterotypers ...
But seriously, I support a number of stereotypes about my own country and wide swaths of its population, because they generally offer more truth than just exaggeration for humor/put downs. So, it depends and as I mentioned above: getting a pitch-perfect characterization for someone meant to represent a specific locale is not easy, so taking some shortcuts for the sake of what is understood as entertainment can sometimes be OK - just don't be egregiously insulting populations for the sake of lazy bashing when you know it's wildly innaccurate or if you don't know what you are talking about. Read up on the Moana development I mentioned earlier, it's very interesting and shows the difficulties involved in trying to represent authentic characters in popular media who are not aligned with more widely-represented types.
Even so, creators should consider adjusting their characterizations in later works after learning more from feedback to their existing ones, IMHO. I see no need to adjust the Bolivia-based character in this case, for example - but, it's all food for the future.
Let him write his story. It's been great so far, no reason to hate it for something that doesn't exist. He's done his homework.You may be stereotyping sterotypers ...
But seriously, I support a number of stereotypes about my own country and wide swaths of its population, because they generally offer more truth than just exaggeration for humor/put downs. So, it depends and as I mentioned above: getting a pitch-perfect characterization for someone meant to represent a specific locale is not easy, so taking some shortcuts for the sake of what is understood as entertainment can sometimes be OK - just don't be egregiously insulting populations for the sake of lazy bashing when you know it's wildly innaccurate or if you don't know what you are talking about. Read up on the Moana development I mentioned earlier, it's very interesting and shows the difficulties involved in trying to represent authentic characters in popular media who are not aligned with more widely-represented types.
Even so, creators should consider adjusting their characterizations in later works after learning more from feedback to their existing ones, IMHO. I see no need to adjust the Bolivia-based character in this case, for example - but, it's all food for the future.
Yes, and that's why I offered:Let him write his story. It's been great so far, no reason to hate it for something that doesn't exist. He's done his homework.
Otherwise, my post didn't criticize the Dev.I see no need to adjust the Bolivia-based character in this case
To be fair, I don't think he was in therapy at the time...Letting her live with someone that appears to be in therapy for sex addictions? Poor parenting! haha
I agree that's often true, but sometimes they are just reasonable generalizations for the sake of getting a high-level point across - so long as everyone understands it's not meant to pin 100% of a population as a certain type of person and isn't creating unfair bias and so forth. We need to be careful and try not to be unnecessarily hurtful for the sake of being a lazy jerk, as I feel you implied.I always took stereotypes being lazy, "why to know people when I can put the same label on everybody?".