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kaos1987

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What's funny about it? Her parents are busy people and the poor girl needs a home. Not taking her in would have just been heartless.
Letting her live with someone that appears to be in therapy for sex addictions? Poor parenting! haha

I used to post regular updates on the progress and kind of slipped when I was busy learning to do the Renpy coding and Daz work. Now that I've got all that under my thumb I plan to get back to regular weekly updates. But it's my pleasure to share.
This is great news! One of the things that kept me checking in with the game was the updates, when the shit hit the fan and you went dark I kind of just stopped checking.

Planner looks great btw, and all the little additions you have put/are putting in really fit the game and make it feel a lot more interactive than "just another visual novel"
 

kaos1987

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It seems that you are the one interested in Mexican stereotypes and you are the one that keeps pushing it. I am from Mexico and I hate Tequila
Like it or love it man, its a Mexican drink. In fact it legally cant even be called Tequila unless its made in Mexico as it has a protected heritage. If you see someone drinking tea and talking English your brain doesn't jump to American or Canadian or Australian, it jumps to British so stereotypes are bound to happen whether you drink it or not. :)

I am British, I hate Gin and real Ale - it doesn't stop real ale (and its glass) being a stereotypically British thing. See below for a photo of the fucking horrible stuff. EDIT - I just realised the photo is even called "British Dimpled Glass pint jug with ale" when all I searched for was ale glass.

That being said (and it has been mentioned before) your favourite drink doesn't have to be from your country - I myself favour Cuban Rum, so the fact that Lupita is Bolivian doesn't bother me in the slightest. I just think that you should lay off the man for giving an opinion as it is just that.... an opinion..... something that everyone is entitled to.
 

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Like it or love it man, its a Mexican drink. In fact it legally cant even be called Tequila unless its made in Mexico as it has a protected heritage. If you see someone drinking tea and talking English your brain doesn't jump to American or Canadian or Australian, it jumps to British so stereotypes are bound to happen whether you drink it or not. :)

I am British, I hate Gin and real Ale - it doesn't stop real ale (and its glass) being a stereotypically British thing. See below for a photo of the fucking horrible stuff. EDIT - I just realised the photo is even called "British Dimpled Glass pint jug with ale" when all I searched for was ale glass.

That being said (and it has been mentioned before) your favourite drink doesn't have to be from your country - I myself favour Cuban Rum, so the fact that Lupita is Bolivian doesn't bother me in the slightest. I just think that you should lay off the man for giving an opinion as it is just that.... an opinion..... something that everyone is entitled to.
I get what you're saying, we all have an opinion and I'm just chiming in myself but calling out a stereotype while stereotyping should get you called out. ;)

 
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RomanHume

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Look man I don't mean to offend you, the game is pretty good. But she doesn't feel bolivian and I stick by that. I am not saying this out of some social justice desire to prove you wrong, so I'll try to phrase it in a constructive way. I am from Chile, so it's not like I have a perfect knowledge on bolivians, but we do have a lot of them in here.

Guadalupe is a spanish name, but it's most popular in mexico and by a lot because of how important Santa maria de Guadalupe is to them. Bolivia has strong ties to their native american origins, so a native american name or lastname would feel more in order.

Didn't know our neighbours produced so much coke, kudos to them I suppose. Still, if you are from Bolivia and in search for better oportunities you don't usually go to the US, unless you have money. Going to the US is pretty expensive and can be hard. Whereas going from bolivia to chile, or viceversa, is so easy you barely need a passport. But I guess this one is more of a posible plot-hook.

And the tequila is not a problem in and of itself. But if I add it up with the rest it becomes Guadalupe Rosales who came to the US in search of a better future, is a single mother, her husband got in trouble with coke and her drink of choice is tequila. Tequila being a typicall mexican drink.

You said that you aren't interested in the typical mexican stereotype, but this feels like that. One of the most common Mexican names, single mother, criminal husband and with tequila on top.

Now honestly this isn't really that important. It just irks me a lot.
I apologize if my response was a bit on the attack. But I do a great deal of research when building and designing my characters (in fact it was almost impossible at the time of design to find a Daz model that looked even remotely hispanic. I ended up having to create much of the materials and stuff myself because it just wasn't there in abundance.)

But the reality is, when you live outside a culture that you're trying to represent in fiction, you're always going to get something wrong. You can do all the research in the world and there will always be little nuances of a culture that simply aren't discovered in the research. So at the end of the day, as authors we do the best we can.

Based on the research I did when writing her character, I didn't see too much that was too far beyond the realm of what's believable. But I also don't live as close to the culture as you obviously do. So I have no doubt that if I were in your position, my perspective on her character would probably be different as well. But as an America who is very far removed from the culture in question, I simply did the best I could using the information discovered on the good old "inter-webs". I built her with the parts I had.

And I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that as I dig deeper into Nanami's story there will be people close to Japanese culture saying "That's not quite right...". But at the end of the day, I'm not writing the world's greatest fiction, I'm just a hobbyist striving to be a professional and using as many tools as I can to be as close to accurate as can be reasonably expected.

And who knows, maybe as the story goes on and Lupita reveals more of her history to Roger, you might think, "Ok, it's a stretch, but perhaps not completely absurd". That is, if I do my job well.

All the same, I do appreciate you taking the time to respond and give some feedback on the game. Nothing here goes unread or unconsidered.

Salute mate!
 

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On this I disagree: tequila is a Mexico-centric drink. Singani is Bolivia's national liquor and is coincidentally produced in a manner that's similar to tequila:
While I appreciate this, can we agree that the statistical probability of Roger having Singani in his home liquor cabinet is near zero? :D
 

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This is great news! One of the things that kept me checking in with the game was the updates, when the shit hit the fan and you went dark I kind of just stopped checking.

Planner looks great btw, and all the little additions you have put/are putting in really fit the game and make it feel a lot more interactive than "just another visual novel"
Very glad to have you back! I have to get through the next couple of weeks and then things will settle down again. I'll get another update out and then hopefully get back to streaming and what-not. My big goal from this point forward is consistency. Consistency in updates, distributions and information. So here's to a strong second-half of the year.

But I believe the planner is going to become very useful very soon. As my cast of characters continues to grow, I think it will help a lot of players to have a visual database to reference different characters. And as I continue to update the old code, it'll include a "journal" that tracks what decisions and conversations you've had with previous characters. So that if there's been a few months between updates, you can go back and refresh your memory on what you were doing in a particular save file.

Like it or love it man, its a Mexican drink. In fact it legally cant even be called Tequila unless its made in Mexico as it has a protected heritage. If you see someone drinking tea and talking English your brain doesn't jump to American or Canadian or Australian, it jumps to British so stereotypes are bound to happen whether you drink it or not. :)

I am British, I hate Gin and real Ale - it doesn't stop real ale (and its glass) being a stereotypically British thing. See below for a photo of the fucking horrible stuff. EDIT - I just realised the photo is even called "British Dimpled Glass pint jug with ale" when all I searched for was ale glass.

That being said (and it has been mentioned before) your favourite drink doesn't have to be from your country - I myself favour Cuban Rum, so the fact that Lupita is Bolivian doesn't bother me in the slightest. I just think that you should lay off the man for giving an opinion as it is just that.... an opinion..... something that everyone is entitled to.
On the topic of alcohol, I only like a couple of brands of Gin, but by it's nature there can be a good deal of variance between them so I guess that's expected.

But when I think of Ale's and Stouts I always come back to this bit
 

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Well stereotypes exists, and are perpetuated by media, mostly from outsiders.
You may be stereotyping sterotypers ... ;)

But seriously, I support a number of stereotypes about my own country and wide swaths of its population, because they generally offer more truth than just exaggeration for humor/put downs. So, it depends and as I mentioned above: getting a pitch-perfect characterization for someone meant to represent a specific locale is not easy, so taking some shortcuts for the sake of what is understood as entertainment can sometimes be OK - just don't be egregiously insulting populations for the sake of lazy bashing when you know it's wildly innaccurate or if you don't know what you are talking about. Read up on the Moana development I mentioned earlier, it's very interesting and shows the difficulties involved in trying to represent authentic characters in popular media who are not aligned with more widely-represented types.

Even so, creators should consider adjusting their characterizations in later works after learning more from feedback to their existing ones, IMHO. I see no need to adjust the Bolivia-based character in this case, for example - but, it's all food for the future.
 

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You may be stereotyping sterotypers ... ;)

But seriously, I support a number of stereotypes about my own country and wide swaths of its population, because they generally offer more truth than just exaggeration for humor/put downs. So, it depends and as I mentioned above: getting a pitch-perfect characterization for someone meant to represent a specific locale is not easy, so taking some shortcuts for the sake of what is understood as entertainment can sometimes be OK - just don't be egregiously insulting populations for the sake of lazy bashing when you know it's wildly innaccurate or if you don't know what you are talking about. Read up on the Moana development I mentioned earlier, it's very interesting and shows the difficulties involved in trying to represent authentic characters in popular media who are not aligned with more widely-represented types.

Even so, creators should consider adjusting their characterizations in later works after learning more from feedback to their existing ones, IMHO. I see no need to adjust the Bolivia-based character in this case, for example - but, it's all food for the future.
I always took stereotypes being lazy, "why to know people when I can put the same label on everybody?".
 

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You may be stereotyping sterotypers ... ;)

But seriously, I support a number of stereotypes about my own country and wide swaths of its population, because they generally offer more truth than just exaggeration for humor/put downs. So, it depends and as I mentioned above: getting a pitch-perfect characterization for someone meant to represent a specific locale is not easy, so taking some shortcuts for the sake of what is understood as entertainment can sometimes be OK - just don't be egregiously insulting populations for the sake of lazy bashing when you know it's wildly innaccurate or if you don't know what you are talking about. Read up on the Moana development I mentioned earlier, it's very interesting and shows the difficulties involved in trying to represent authentic characters in popular media who are not aligned with more widely-represented types.

Even so, creators should consider adjusting their characterizations in later works after learning more from feedback to their existing ones, IMHO. I see no need to adjust the Bolivia-based character in this case, for example - but, it's all food for the future.
Let him write his story. It's been great so far, no reason to hate it for something that doesn't exist. He's done his homework.
 
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I always took stereotypes being lazy, "why to know people when I can put the same label on everybody?".
I agree that's often true, but sometimes they are just reasonable generalizations for the sake of getting a high-level point across - so long as everyone understands it's not meant to pin 100% of a population as a certain type of person and isn't creating unfair bias and so forth. We need to be careful and try not to be unnecessarily hurtful for the sake of being a lazy jerk, as I feel you implied.

One of my kids is going to vacation at a resort in Mexico this summer and the first reaction from most people I've told is worry about murderers, drug gangs, etc. Mexico has some areas with higher rates for such problems (as does my own country, conveniently forgotten by those concerned about Mexico), but it also goes to show how skewed reporting and politics can make people think about an entire country and its people - even folks I know who don't consciously feel biased against Mexicans. It's called inculcation, in this case.
 
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when choosing the kinks, bright pink means its on or off, and how do u get them harem path, tell the wife the truth or lie
 
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2019-08-02 Chapter Selection .JPG


2019-08-02 Making Strides

As I'm pushing forward with the renders for the second half of v1.0.7 I find I have some downtime between test renders.

So today I took some of those precious extra minutes to work on one of my promises for the next release.

I'm happy to report there is now a fully functional "Jump Menu" included in the next release. This will allow you to immediately transport to any scene in the game whether you've completed it or not (who the hell am I to tell you what order you should enjoy these things).

One of the cool benefits of this implementation is that it leaps forward from your current position. So if you're curious about what impact a choice you just made will have on a future scene, you can make the choice and then immediately jump forward to see its effects.

As the game grows there will be more diversity and impact from your decisions making this a fun toy to play with.

Eventually (maybe this release, maybe a couple from now) I'll have a built in system for modifying the character attributes so you can enter a new scene with whatever stats you like. This will take some more time to build, but it's on the drawing board.

Thus while I can no longer ensure that your saves won't always work while I'm putting this thing together, I can at least offer you the ability avoid the torture of replaying scenes you've already seen. I'm afraid it's the best I can do.

For now, I must return to rendering.

Salute my friends!
 

Ecchi-Lover44

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alright when will a walkthough come up and dont point me to the guide because the guide does not tell you how many keep going clicks you need for Nanami orgasms in the first H scene if the rest of the game is like this what is the point of it you can not even see if she got one plus the constant error after you cum in her is annoying
 
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I don't know if someone sayed this but, the Dev know that Bolivia is in America? Because when the MC ask Lupita where she is from (Bolivia), later say "What are you doing in America?" or something like that. Is weird, the explanations are or the MC don't know about geography or the Dev don't know about Geography.
 
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