VN Ren'Py Abandoned Dr. Amana, Sexual Therapist [v2.0.0P] [Ianvs]

[RobJoy]

if you have a comfy life, yes, why not..
i myself if i was a bit more rich (not alots, but a bit more to be able to not stress about end the month with food) i will gladly do a game just for the fun to create a game. without expecting anything in return than the pleasure to others peoples to play my game.

maybe i m unique, but i will probably not care at all about getting money from another source than my actual job

The only problem with that premise/sentiment is that in reality 98% of people are not comfy or rich.
And even fewer of those are Incest sex game enthusiasts, or capable/proficient in creating these kind of games.

The devs that seem numerous to you, are but a rare breed you do not even realize.

 

[juan palote]

Art is great, wont have my hopes very high

 

[baloneysammich]

"We want to be very clear: We’re making interactive stories, not games.

A lot of adult fiction is gamified by giving you status bars, wallets or other mechanics that players must manage while trying to enjoy the story. We avoid this entirely. Our stories are about the story telling experience itself. We want to immerse you in the story without shifting focus to additional game mechanics."

This and the fact that you have to pay $20/month to see all charakters make me think the developers live in the wonderful land of Insania. Special scenes for supporters are ok , but whole charakters not available if you won't pay $20 for a clickable comic?

OTOH, some devs have content that is forever limited to higher tiers. These devs have committed to release full game (all chars) to all patreons.

I think it could be a good model for an established developer, especially if the more "fetishistic" content was on the higher tiers. But for a completely new dev with practically nothing to show for themselves, I agree it's bonkers.

 

[lorddarkam]

Lewd Emo and the Blonde bimbo hmmmmmmm my type

 

[Zippity]

(This review has been moved to the review section above, for this thread)

 

[RomanHume]

Hello everyone,

We have to say we're surprised and excited to find everyone here talking about this game, even though we didn't post it in this forum. My name is Roman, I'm a dev and marketing guy for the untitled IAF posted here. I've been reading through your posts and I'm thrilled to see all of it, good and bad. I'm hoping that posting up here I can answer some questions and maybe dispel some of the negativity around our project.

I'll start by just touching on a couple of the things I've read above that I can answer off-hand.

1. Why is the alpha behind a paywall?
Recent changes in Patreon's policy required this. A month or two ago, a slew of adult content developers had their sites shut out and put under review until they complied with the new policy. This policy included, among other things, a limitation to the types of sexual activities permitted in creator content, as well as a requirement that all adult oriented posts be locked out to the general public. Believe me, this was a serious blow and not at all how we wanted to start this project. To combat this, I've spent many days this week finding as many adult game forums as possible to post up links to our samples and share with everyone some of the news and information we've provided. Since this is my first post on f95zone I am not yet allowed to post links. But I will happily include this in my rounds when going around and sharing updated content.

2. There isn't shit to the story.
This is true, very, very true. This project officially kicked off on December 14th, 2017. It started as round table discussion that quickly evolved into a bunch of buddies wanting to put together something fun. It began with talks about all of the things we experienced in AIF and Adults Games that bothered the shit out of us. So we decided to write a story that we ourselves would want to experience. We're releasing updates frequently, here we are four days out and we've posted-up 0.2.0. If you search around, you can probably find it on some other forums. In a few more posts I'll have permission to posts links up and I'll drop it here as well.

3. Your goals are fucking ridiculous!
To tell you the truth, we drew 1000 out of a hat. The general idea was, if we had 1000 patrons at $1 each, we could upgrade a rig a month in four consecutive months. Having never had a Patreon page before, we were unsure of what the income distribution would be across all tiers. We could very well hit the financial mile stone long before a 1000, who knows. At the end of the day, when we have enough income coming in to start the upgrades, we'll begin doing so whether or not we hit 1000 patrons. Since hardware is our only capital intensive requirement, once that is upgraded there is unlikely to be any other goals set after that.

4. $20 for all the characters? Are you fucking nuts?
This was our way of giving back something extra at every level of support. In the end, even $1 patrons are going to have access to the full game upon release. But for those who showed a lot of faith and really wanted to demonstrate they were behind us, we wanted to give something substantial back to them. Something more than just special render each month for their continued support. Patrons who don't pay will still have access to 85% of the game, there will just be some special scenes and easter eggs available to those supporting us at each tier. We feel like this is a fair recompense for those who have chosen to invest their hard earned money with us. $20 is a lot. I know it is to me. So to anyone who wants to invest that in us, we feel we owe them something in return.

5. In it for the money and looking to quit some jobs.
While the prospect is enticing, I can't conceive of a scenario where we'd make enough money on Patreon to match our combined 4 salaries and afford us the liberty to quite our jobs and do this full time. At the end of the day, this is a hobby, and if you can get a hobby to pay for itself while you're having fun, so much the better.

6. You're going to milk the shit out of this and live off the residuals for years.
Unfortunately we are a bunch with very active imaginations. Which means we've already thought several games past this one. The middle aged corporate executive character is only one of several stories we'd like to tell. All in all, we've got 4 more games we want to build after this, and I'm sure that list will grow as we continue to hang out and shoot the shit.

Anyway, I hope some of my answers are satisfactory, and if not, well, they are still the answers.

I would be happy to field any questions directly. And as soon as I get two more posts in here I'll throw up some links and pictures that we've been sharing on other open forums and our Patreon site.

Cheers!

 

[RomanHume]

For those wanting to understand what the game is about, here is the Patreon post we included with the 0.1.0 release:

Here it is, the first scene in the storyboard. We know it isn't much, but you know what they say about the building of Rome. We were just so excited to lay the first few blocks that we decided to share it with you now.
So already it's early in the project and we've decided on some pretty big design changes. At first, we thought this story would be kind of an ongoing epic. Traditional in it's plot with a beginning, middle and end. But as we wrote the story we found ourselves getting bogged down in scenes that were nothing but exposition. I mean, after all, we promised to stay focuses on the "adult" part of this thing.

So in a late night meeting we decided to scrap the story as we envisioned it and came up with a whole new concept. Instead of writing the day to day adventures or misadventures of the main character, what if we just focused on the parts of the story that are saucy and exciting? Keep a sharp eye on the parts of the character development related to the relationships with the main character. So we decided to skip all of the boring in between stuff and get right to the meat of the deal.

To do this, we decided to frame the story as an ongoing dialogue between the main character and his sexual therapist. This gave us the freedom to focus the story on only the most interesting parts and skip all of the bullshit that would bog us down between the scenes we really wanted to write and you really wanted to read.

So rather than have a convoluted story with all of these interwoven parts that would be difficult to manage, maintain and transition between, we broke the story up into a series of interactive vignettes that let you get straight to the good stuff.

So without further ado, the first of these scenes has been storyboarded and made available to you. It's only a single scene, we know. But by writing the story in this fashion we can put together a faster distribution schedule and release updates every couple of weeks instead of every month.

So please, play through and let us know what you think. There is more to come very soon.

 

[macadam]

Hello everyone,

1. Why is the alpha behind a paywall?
Recent changes in Patreon's policy required this. A month or two ago, a slew of adult content developers had their sites shut out and put under review until they complied with the new policy. This policy included, among other things, a limitation to the types of sexual activities permitted in creator content, as well as a requirement that all adult oriented posts be locked out to the general public. Believe me, this was a serious blow and not at all how we wanted to start this project. To combat this, I've spent many days this week finding as many adult game forums as possible to post up links to our samples and share with everyone some of the news and information we've provided. Since this is my first post on f95zone I am not yet allowed to post links. But I will happily include this in my rounds when going around and sharing updated content.

let me be honest without any offense directly...

what a fucking joke. nothing in Patreon push the devlopers to hidde their games behind a paywall "patreon only" post. you just have to not "host" the download on Patreon. an simple Mega link or whatever is perfectly ok. take exempl on some popular game like summertime saga , wild life and else. they dont all hidde their game behind patreon only post.

i will frankly say, for the marketing men, you did shit work ... by putting out a small content demo ( honestly you should have add a bit more interaction or something that show better the game, even if this mean take more long time to finish the version before release the very first ) , and by putting the small-beta-demo behind paywall ( with your ridiculous excuse )
you should have used another tactic, such as give this as a free available demo-tech. that way, everybody will be able to play the game and see whats going on.

be glad that website like F95 exist... without us, your game will be unknown by alots of peoples. becaue peoples didnt like to give money for something that they have no idea at all. they like to know how it look and the game "concept" BEFORE giving money

edit :
may i add also one thing that is a very naughty commercial tactic
let me quote :
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4. $20 for all the characters? Are you fucking nuts?
This was our way of giving back something extra at every level of support. In the end, even $1 patrons are going to have access to the full game upon release. But for those who showed a lot of faith and really wanted to demonstrate they were behind us, we wanted to give something substantial back to them. Something more than just special render each month for their continued support. Patrons who don't pay will still have access to 85% of the game, there will just be some special scenes and easter eggs available to those supporting us at each tier. We feel like this is a fair recompense for those who have chosen to invest their hard earned money with us. $20 is a lot. I know it is to me. So to anyone who wants to invest that in us, we feel we owe them something in return.
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i understand clearly the way you want to give some peoples the rewards they need for giving money and hope in your project.
the bad point is... the MAIN girls of the demo (aka the duaghter and her friends) will be available for the maximum amount of pledge.

thats very naughty from you. you use a bait for trying to get the max money.

i see no other reason for this.

 

[Leynex]

i think it need´s bigger tits! Non monster tits, but bigger.
Using a mash of "Dating my Daughter" would be nice!

 

[smnb]

i think it need´s bigger tits! Non monster tits, but bigger.
Using a mash of "Dating my Daughter" would be nice!

Your request is confusing. It's like saying:

I think the drink needs to be colder! Not frozen, but colder.
Cooling it down to -30°C would be nice!

 

[RomanHume]

let me be honest without any offense directly...

what a fucking joke. nothing in Patreon push the devlopers to hidde their games behind a paywall "patreon only" post. you just have to not "host" the download on Patreon. an simple Mega link or whatever is perfectly ok. take exempl on some popular game like summertime saga , wild life and else. they dont all hidde their game behind patreon only post.

This is taken directly from Patreon's Community guidelines:
"...
We also require that all public content on your page be appropriate for all audiences. Content with mature themes must be marked as a patron-only post.

We have zero tolerance when it comes to the glorification of sexual violence which includes bestiality, rape, and child exploitation (i.e., sexualized depiction of minors). This is true for illustrated, animated, or any other type of content. Patreon reserves the right to review and remove accounts that may violate this guideline. As a strong commitment to child safety, we will work with law enforcement whenever we come across child exploitation.

We also do not allow other fringe sexual fetish content, such as incest, necrophilia, or fetish content that is hard to distinguish from non-consensual sex."

We know a number of devs that we personally support, Gumdrop Games and Mr. Dots for example who had their pages temporarily blacked out after the new rules went into effect. Currently the game is being hosted on Mega and after I have linking permissions on this forum, I'll be happy to post the link to the game here as well as the other forums we are currently participating in.

by putting out a small content demo ( honestly you should have add a bit more interaction or something that show better the game, even if this mean take more long time to finish the version before release the very first ) , and by putting the small-beta-demo behind paywall ( with your ridiculous excuse )

This isn't really a demo or a beta. It's just the work we've done so far. We're submitting it to the public for review, feedback and opinions so we can develop a better product moving forward.

they like to know how it look and the game "concept" BEFORE giving money

Precisely why we are putting what we've done out there for free.

i understand clearly the way you want to give some peoples the rewards they need for giving money and hope in your project.
the bad point is... the MAIN girls of the demo (aka the duaghter and her friends) will be available for the maximum amount of pledge.

Again, not really a demo, just work completed to date. And the three young girls are not the main characters. We have eleven main characters and an undecided number of secondary characters we've modeled for the game.

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thats very naughty from you. you use a bait for trying to get the max money.

i see no other reason for this.

We feel that taking $20 from someone and then giving them our undying love and the chance to vote on a monthly background is cheating people of their money. If we are taking $20 from someone, we feel obligated to provide them with an honest reward for their support. Give us a few more weeks, let us finish introducing our characters and you'll see we have a substantial amount of content for people at all tiers of play.


I'm not trying to convert you with words. I'm just saying, give us some time. Let us show you what we are trying to produce and if you're still not happy with the product, you don't have to play or support us.

 

[RomanHume]

i think it need´s bigger tits! Non monster tits, but bigger.
Using a mash of "Dating my Daughter" would be nice!

We have several characters on the busty side so don't worry. One of the things we wanted to shoot for in our story was variety. We wanted a collection of models across the age and racial spectrum. But most importantly, we wanted our models to look real. Not just in the quality of the renders but in the proportions and physics of their bodies.

In short, bigger tits coming soon!



I should add that DMD is near the top of our list of favorite fictions to date. Mr. Dots is one of our inspirations and all four of us have been patrons of his for a long time running.

 

[macadam]

you CAN post sexual content on patreon. all you need to do is to not use explicit "incest" or others words on the page.

you can for exempl post something like " we create adult only game with blablabla " and about the pics, you can just simply censor them, but again, this is not necesasry as long the pic doesnt show any strong sexual content.

i know and i see alots of devs on patreon who make porn stuff... and they didnt hide this on their page, and dont get any trouble from patreon. as long you didnt explicitly show full porn stuff. they are no problem.

here an exempl of possibility, with one of the most famous game around here ( aka Dream of Desire ) , the free version is posted on patreon and public link

You must be registered to see the links

the patreon page clearly specify its an "adult game" and as you can see, themother on the patreon pledge level is full naked but "hidden" to avoid trouble.

Lewdlab never get into trouble with patreon for that. just dont mention "incest" or things like that on your page and dont show explicit content, and everything is good

 

[RomanHume]

you CAN post sexual content on patreon. all you need to do is to not use explicit "incest" or others words on the page.

you can for exempl post something like " we create adult only game with blablabla " and about the pics, you can just simply censor them, but again, this is not necesasry as long the pic doesnt show any strong sexual content.

i know and i see alots of devs on patreon who make porn stuff... and they didnt hide this on their page, and dont get any trouble from patreon. as long you didnt explicitly show full porn stuff. they are no problem.

here an exempl of possibility, with one of the most famous game around here ( aka Dream of Desire ) , the free version is posted on patreon and public link

You must be registered to see the links

the patreon page clearly specify its an "adult game" and as you can see, themother on the patreon pledge level is full naked but "hidden" to avoid trouble.

Lewdlab never get into trouble with patreon for that. just dont mention "incest" or things like that on your page and dont show explicit content, and everything is good

Here is what we know. The letter of Patreon's law is thus: "...Content with mature themes must be marked as a patron-only post..."

Our story constitutes a mature theme and therefore falls under the purview of this clause. That said, how Patreon chooses to enforce or regulate that clause is entirely up to them. What I do know is that Mr. Dots, for example, got smacked hard by the policy change and as one of his patrons, I have several emails from him explaining the drastic measures he had to take in altering his patreon page and his game. If lewdlabs is floating under the radar or has a free pass, that is between them and Patreon. For the time being, we are erring on the side of caution and adhering to the Terms of Service we agreed to with Patreon.

But at the end of the day, it's a moot point. We're blowing this out on every forum we can as we release updates, so you don't have to go to Patreon to get your information or updates about our product.

 

[89tasker]

A lot of assumptions were made in this thread. Many of them based on past experience with other devs. While it's difficult, we must give new developers a chance. They may be the exception.

The prudent thing is to wait and see what happens. I know this team is off to a bad start, but they could prove themselves worthy of support.

I suggest keeping an eye on this game, and check back in a few months. They might abandon the project long before they become milkers.

 

[RomanHume]

A lot of assumptions were made in this thread. Many of them based on past experience with other devs. While it's difficult, we must give new developers a chance. They may be the exception.

The prudent thing is to wait and see what happens. I know this team is off to a bad start, but they could prove themselves worthy of support.

I suggest keeping an eye on this game, and check back in a few months. They might abandon the project long before they become milkers.

We genuinely appreciate it! We aren't asking anyone for money, just some patience. The Patreon is there for those who want it but we intend to continue releasing the core alpha on every forum we can find.

At this point though we remain very dedicated. Between the four of us I believe we've spend somewhere around $500 on digital assets alone in December. Models, props, software etc.

But like you suggest. Give us sometime. I think we'll surprise a lot of people with what we are trying to do.

And now that I've met my quota, I'll throw up v0.2.0 for anyone who wants it.

 

[RomanHume]

In this build, we introduce Nanami, the primary character’s boss. If you were looking for a little corporate intrigue and sexual tension in the office, then we’ve got you covered.

The intent is to cycle through all of the primary characters on a regular rotation. This way everyone at all tiers (free tier included) get something at a pretty regular interval. As we've said, there are currently 11 main characters in development each with a unique story, some with cross-overs. Right now, we are pushing through introducing all of the characters and then we'll dive deeper into developing the individual relationships.

Also note, the relationships are all completely optional. So for those who want a tale of monogamy to the character's wife, you have the option of going through the story swatting women away with a stick while playing the devout husband.

As we complete scenes and introduce new characters, we're posting character bios and promo images to detail some of the personalities at play in the story. So please, give it a go and by all means, tell us what you think!

Currently we have builds for PC/Linux/Mac. We are exploring compile options for Android and IOS as well. In the meantime, enjoy!

If you’d like to download the second sample, please select the appropriate link below:

PC:

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Mac:

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You can follow us on Patreon at:

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Cheers!

 

[macadam]

We genuinely appreciate it! We aren't asking anyone for money, just some patience.

*laugh*
now you decide to change... thats how you should have start at beginning. it was a bad mistake.
at least you learn from this error. thats a good point. some devs should not have care at all and continu on the bad way.

 

[RomanHume]

Character Bio
Cassie

Cassie is the young lady of the household. She’s 18 years old and a high school senior. Growing up, she was very close to her family. But this year has been different. Cassie has been going through a lot of personal change and it’s left her questioning the relationships in her life. Perhaps her most pressing question is how she feels towards the man of the house. These days, girls her age have the internet, social media, and free access to a tremendous amount of information. So when it comes to boys she’s not clueless. She’s dated a bit at school and is not afraid of her sexuality. But what has her so on edge, are her feelings towards the man of the house.

This man has always been a part of her life. He’s cared for her, loved her, and has never let her down. His behavior at times seems at odds with itself, but unlike other guys she’s been with, he’s never done anything to hurt her. And what’s worse, as she gets older, she thinks these feelings for him are getting stronger and perhaps a little too romantic. She just isn’t sure anymore what is right and what is wrong. It’s not something she can freely discuss with her friends, and the internet is full of conflicting advice.

Cassie is torn. She’s distanced herself from her family so that she can have a little space to try and sort through her thoughts and feelings. But in the end, she’s being pulled in two different directions. Does she approach this situation confidently? Maybe even make some kind of a move and let the chips fall where they may, possibly prepare herself for her biggest heartache yet? Or does she try to play it cool. Not let her confusion show, maybe just drop a few hints here and there and see how he responds? He can be so unpredictable at times. She doesn’t always know how he will react.

 

[RomanHume]

Character Bio
Nanami

They call her “The Dragon Lady”. She is strong, relentless and never backs down from confrontation. She absolutely refuses to bullied or intimidated, especially by men. She has fought many years to get where she is professionally, and no one is going to take that from her. When she speaks, people listen. When she’s angry, jobs are on the line. She is a female force to be reckoned with and people make it a point not to cross her.

Her love life has been less about romance, and more about conquest. For her, pleasure is seeing a man brought low to his knees, literally. She enjoys receiving pain as much as she enjoys inflicting it. In her mind, pain is what makes you stronger, and strength is what gets her off. She enjoys taking powerful men and bending them to her sexual will. Wrapping herself ever tighter around them until she squeezes every last ounce of energy from their soul. But this is only half of her secret. Deep down, she wants more than anything to find a man who can break her.

It’s one thing to always be the dominate one, but to be dominated intrigues her. It intrigues her because so far, no man has been able to accomplish it. In Roger she thinks that maybe, just maybe she’s found that man. So she’ll put him to the test. And if he fails to bring her low and tame her…well then, he can just be another slave to her will until she finds someone better. Either way, she feels that she is winning.