VN Ren'Py Abandoned Dr. Amana, Sexual Therapist [v2.0.0P] [Ianvs]

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RomanHume

RomanHume

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Spfjolietjake said:
I haven't got around to the update yet. That said I wanted to let you know I appreciate you hanging with us pirates as your candid interactions have been quite entertaining:)
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My pleasure!

You see I've cracked the code on this whole development thing. I've learned that happy pirates have a greater chance of one day becoming loyal patrons. A lot of devs miss that I think.

Plus being 100% accessible and completely open about my process and progress gets me way ahead of the rumor mill. There's never any question what I'm up to as a developer or what progress is actually being made. Hence I avoid hundreds of pages of speculation and false rumor that plagues other developers.

I won't lie. Talking to fans, getting all the feedback (the good and the bad), and occasionally berating lazy people, it's fun. :D


I learned very early on that some of the project's biggest patron boosts came AFTER an F95 leak. And I like to think I maintain a pretty good relationship with the mods and staffers. So much so that they only delete my posts when I'm feeding trolls.

No doubt. This is a good place and I love it!

(Newest version of the game even has F95 links on the main menu and buried in it because I get tired of assholes on other sites charging people for access to my game. I'd rather people find their way back here and steal it for free than pay some shit head for my hard work)
 
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Cartageno

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Ayhsel said:
The idea in decision theory is essentially that giving you a decision can only improve you as you can simply not use it.. therefore, your well being can only go up.
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Okay, I see, and from my (scientific) experience there is one more problem adding to the ones you mentioned, referring my "traffic example" above: If it is only you who gets the new option, then it works. However if everybody gets it, the negative consequences to others may outweigh your personal gain, and if everybody is enticed to do as you do, there may be a large enough overall loss to completely cancel any individual gain so everybody is off worse. Which does not apply to games like these as much, there your example about too many options taking time is more relevant. And we've even seen it in practice, how many decisions in VNs have annoyed players because in effect there was no decision at all.
 
fitgirlbestgirl

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RomanHume said:
I would love it if I could make every sex scene verbally unique but I also know the limits of my own power. That's why I rely so heavily on the imagery in those scenes because how many ways can you describe fucking without falling to repetition?
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It's not so much your way of "describing the fucking" I'm finding fault with, but rather the overabundance of fucking without any additional meaning, the lack of natural buildup and crescendo.

And it's a problem I don't recall ever seeing in your game before. Maybe it's intensified because it is what feels like 20 PIV scenes chained together, maybe it's the nature of the encounter as a "heat of the moment" thing, maybe it's the lack of satisfying incest-related dialogue or maybe it's just that Cassie was never one of my favorite characters to begin with, but the scene just rang incredibly hollow to me, at least after the first two or three fucks.

I liked what was built around it and your renders are great, but I hope you're not going to handle future sex scenes this way.

Anyways, looking forward to what's next and thanks for being so responsive.
 
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Ayhsel

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Cartageno said:
Okay, I see, and from my (scientific) experience there is one more problem adding to the ones you mentioned, referring my "traffic example" above: If it is only you who gets the new option, then it works. However if everybody gets it, the negative consequences to others may outweigh your personal gain, and if everybody is enticed to do as you do, there may be a large enough overall loss to completely cancel any individual gain so everybody is off worse. Which does not apply to games like these as much, there your example about too many options taking time is more relevant. And we've even seen it in practice, how many decisions in VNs have annoyed players because in effect there was no decision at all.
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Ohh absolutely. The analysis was simply for pure single agent decision. For games behavior, nothing works directly, as you need to take into account the responses of each agent. The simplest case is the prisoner's dilemma, where having the option to confess is worse for all and if you wanted you would prefer to remove the option.

But yeah, not applicable to single player games.
 
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Ohh absolutely. The analysis was simply for pure single agent decision. For games behavior, nothing works directly, as you need to take into account the responses of each agent. The simplest case is the prisoner's dilemma, where having the option to confess is worse for all and if you wanted you would prefer to remove the option.

But yeah, not applicable to single player games.
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This is annoying to me, since the Prisoner's Dilemma would have been a way better example to underscore my point than what I did, expecially if anybody wanted to follow my line of reasoning. ;)
 
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Having finished this update I think that this is one of those cases where "step-taboo" fits the story better than regular. The scene came too fast and having it being actual "i" makes the setting way less grounded.
 
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Disturbedcobra

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For the time being, I did a little work on some of the minor details and have edited a few files to allow for Incest. There weren't that many changes needed, but did at least make it seem in some instances that they reference relation. It's no typical patch, and obviously not perfect, but at least a stopgap till someone makes a proper patch. Seems to work fine for me currently at least. Luckily there is only that one chapter so far. XD

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Ayhsel

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By the way Hume, I think there is a mistake in the Notebook's description of Cassie. I think the age variable is not set up right as it says "is ch.age"
 
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Dyhart

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RomanHume said:
So glad to know that 1,300+ images and 32k words of text, months of work and countless hours grinding away is rendered completely unplayable by a single word.

I guess I'll just have to settle for "some of the people, some of the time".
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Hey I meant no offense, but I can't be the only one who finds it strange that someone would ask as their "neighbor" if their friends could come over. Like I don't know. You live next door. Ask your dad.

I'm fine with non incest games but if it's supposed to have that taboo(and it is) ...you get the point. It's like when you see the line "we shouldn't do this, we're roomates" ....ok and? lol

Immersion.
 
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RomanHume said:
I actually find this observation interesting and this is the second or third time it's come up so I should probably comment on it.

At the time of writing those previous conversations, the intended context of 'safe' in the dialogue was "careful not to catch an STD". The assumption being that if she did get pregnant she'd take a morning after pill or whatever and needed less of a safe guarding from that possible outcome.

Thus when Roger's is ensuring her 'safety', she and he are both referring to the lack of sexually transmitted diseases. And since she trusts Roger, she didn't feel the need to be 'safe' with him knowing that any unintended pregnancy could be dealt with over the counter.

It never occurred to me that people would interpret 'being safe' as in, safe guarding against pregnancy. It's a fascinating observation and something I'll need to factor in when writing in the future.
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I saw it in both contexts. I understood she was mainly talking about STDs, but it still felt like not at least broaching the subject of a potential pregnancy was odd. I don't recall any dialogue talking about taking a pill afterwards or not, but a discussion of that sort would feel like a natural discussion to have at some point after the sex. It seems like it would be a topic the MC would be worried about or not. It's really that aspect that felt missing.
 
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giqui

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Does this patch work?
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Ayhsel

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I think the path that is listed in OP has already been updated to the new version.
 
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