Duke4515

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I actually find this observation interesting and this is the second or third time it's come up so I should probably comment on it.

At the time of writing those previous conversations, the intended context of 'safe' in the dialogue was "careful not to catch an STD". The assumption being that if she did get pregnant she'd take a morning after pill or whatever and needed less of a safe guarding from that possible outcome.

Thus when Roger's is ensuring her 'safety', she and he are both referring to the lack of sexually transmitted diseases. And since she trusts Roger, she didn't feel the need to be 'safe' with him knowing that any unintended pregnancy could be dealt with over the counter.

It never occurred to me that people would interpret 'being safe' as in, safe guarding against pregnancy. It's a fascinating observation and something I'll need to factor in when writing in the future.
I saw it in both contexts. I understood she was mainly talking about STDs, but it still felt like not at least broaching the subject of a potential pregnancy was odd. I don't recall any dialogue talking about taking a pill afterwards or not, but a discussion of that sort would feel like a natural discussion to have at some point after the sex. It seems like it would be a topic the MC would be worried about or not. It's really that aspect that felt missing.
 

giqui

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Does this patch work?
 

Ayhsel

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I think the path that is listed in OP has already been updated to the new version.
 

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I also noticed that, but I justified it to myself like: sex ended up happening spontaneously. While she kind of planned it, it is not like she knew it would happen, she was simply testing the waters... I doubt she planned going to the pool and that. And from the point of view of diseases this is a safe guy (who might have fucked a prostitute raw and also knocked her up... mmm maybe not so safe if you think about it)

I am, however, a strong supporter that I WANT PREGNANCY TO MATTER. Imagine the beautiful problem of your baby girl coming to tell you that she is pregnant with her mother, your wife, a few meters away.... How would MC react and all that? I know it will be hard making it important, as knocking her up is not mandatory, but I would love to have that scenario
Yeah I more or less agree with that minor almost insignificant plot hole. I see it from both ends, I agree with Roman she could have easily just rationalized no protection necessary with getting a morning after pill the next day if she was that concerned.

I did find it amusing that when asked about being responsible with her sex partners, Cassie maintains she always was because the last thing she needs is to get pregnant, even though that’s exactly what happened after about the 5th or 6th creampie, lol.

I also felt like considering how long she has wanted this kind of relationship with the mc, she was willing to throw caution to the wind and enjoy that level of emotional bond/connection and damn the consequences. After all, she has heard from the mc on more than one occasion how much greater sex is with someone you love, and the deeper the love, the more intense the sex.
 

desmosome

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damn... It's been too long, I forgot a lot of these side characters. Also, I don't know what I did with the wife. I chose some purple responses I believe. I don't remember what I did with Dan Allan either. I was like fuck it, choose all red lol.

I got everyone pregnant, but 2.0 doesn't take that into account?

You know what, isn't there a better way to do this? Like looking at the previous game's save file and importing it's variables and flags?
 
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RomanHume

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damn... It's been too long, I forgot a lot of these side characters. Also, I don't know what I did with the wife. I chose some purple responses I believe. I don't remember what I did with Dan Allan either. I was like fuck it, choose all red lol.

I got everyone pregnant, but 2.0 doesn't take that into account?

You know what, isn't there a better way to do this? Like looking at the previous game's save file and importing it's variables and flags?
Technically yes.

But was it worth spending three weeks working out a bunch of conversions and fitting them into the new class schematics and testing them until they're bug free so that we can import old content that is going to get reworked and updated in the near future, or is it better to just slap a bandaid on it and keep moving forward with new material until the old content is upgraded to fit the new schematic?

That was the question, I opted for the second answer.

Ultimately there was no perfect solution, so I went with the one that let me focus more on making new content.
 

desmosome

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Technically yes.

But was it worth spending three weeks working out a bunch of conversions and fitting them into the new class schematics and testing them until they're bug free so that we can import old content that is going to get reworked and updated in the near future, or is it better to just slap a bandaid on it and keep moving forward with new material until the old content is upgraded to fit the new schematic?

That was the question, I opted for the second answer.

Ultimately there was no perfect solution, so I went with the one that let me focus more on making new content.
Sorry. I didn't know it was a gargantuan task like that lol. My understanding of coding comes exclusively from fixing traceback errors in porn games after all.
 
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Sorry. I didn't know it was a gargantuan task like that lol. My understanding of coding comes exclusively from fixing traceback errors in porn games after all.
Oh no worries. And it's only a big task because my team and I were so green in the beginning and we were storing variables all over the place like an Appalachian hoarder. Variables in the mattress. Buried in the yard. Hidden in the outhouse. The old code is a hot damned mess that's what makes it such a shitty task to try and bring all that over.

If I were to do that today, it would be a load easier because I have all the variables being stored in a single class. So now all of the information from your game play is already neatly packed up in a nice tidy bundle that I can send into future games or future versions, upgrades, etc.

But that old code. Jesus what a shit show!
 

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This VN has it all, creates a strong bond between the characters and player, a nice upgrade on the visual from previous version, A music that actually captures the atmosphere and amplified amazingly. This thing is Absolutely in my top 5 list. It's really addictive... More power to you RomanHume and your fellow team. [i didn't know you had a team
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desmosome

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Btw, is there any checks that would benefit from having some love points on a mostly red path or vise versa?

Some choices are giving like +8 love vs +2 infatuation... The min maxer in me is giving me second thoughts.
 

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The game is designed so that your choices impact the 'flavor' of scenes. I wanted a choice system that wasn't punitive and in which every choice has a reward. It's like taking a survey and then the game telling you which type of chocolate you get. In the end, you still get candy. It's just a matter of taste.
got it
 
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I think there might be something bugged with cheat mode function... when you turn it on then off the contacts disappear.
 
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desmosome

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Alright, just finished the update. You really fucking outdid yourself this time. There are not that many games that can show such a natural and realistic incest situation. I can only think of this one and Summer Scent. Yes, even blue balling build up focused incest games are universally mired by tropes and porn logic.

I also want to add that the barrage of scenes were so hot. I have to mention that my mind is an absolutely corrupted at this point and can not get off unless there is some depraved shit going on. I manage to bust a nut to this wholesome consensual intercourse, so you are doing something right my friend.

I'm not sure if you remember, but I posted a review mentioning that the sex scenes were a bit underwhelming way back then. The very early scenes with just animation was pretty bad and everyone could agree I think. But I felt even the first examples of the new system were a bit underwhelming. My reasoning was that there was not enough kinky dialogue and the scene were pretty much over before you can really build up to a release. We had some discussions back then on how to improve it and others chimed in, many disagreeing with my position that lengthy and kinky dialogues are the magic sauce. I can understand that view more and more. My preferences are heavily influenced by japanese style scenes that use obscenely long dialogues (mainly degradation of the females lol).

As I look at how the game is turning out, it becomes increasingly apparent that one of the biggest strengths of this game is that the entire thing is very realistic. Dialogues flow naturally. characters behave realistically. The plot is believable. Adding the typical hentai dialogue here would not fit that well lol.

Anyways, getting back to the point of how I nutted... You really found your style I think. First, the extended scene (barrage of all the scenes in sequence taken together) is lengthy enough to get the job done. Second, there are many different positions and angles to keep things interesting. Third, the descriptive text is very erotic! Fourth, the spoken dialogues, while rare, are placed at decent intervals to satisfy the relevant kinks (of course I made her call me daddy heheh...).

Ok, I just wanted to say the update was fire. Good job!
 
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