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:unsure: Just a thought, if the game is only "abandoned" because the developer cannot make progress at this time, then why isn't the game tagged as "on hold" instead?
 

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It was on hold but the Dev has been busy and hasn't kept up with info so it got tagged Aboned :(

Intentional spelling BTW
 
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Samuel Hidayat

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:unsure: Just a thought, if the game is only "abandoned" because the developer cannot make progress at this time, then why isn't the game tagged as "on hold" instead?
Abandoned tag in this site goes against any logical reasoning, so don't think too much about it.
 

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:unsure: Just a thought, if the game is only "abandoned" because the developer cannot make progress at this time, then why isn't the game tagged as "on hold" instead?
Abandoned tag in this site goes against any logical reasoning, so don't think too much about it.
After 18 months without a update to the game/VN the abandoned tag goes up no matter what anyone else says but the owner of this site.
Even is the game/vn was ask to be put on hold by the dev after 18 months of no game update the abandoned tag goes up.
The abandoned tag lets players know there has been no game update in over 18 months which is a very long time without an update.
Now there is your logical reason for the abandoned tag.
 

Samuel Hidayat

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After 18 months without a update to the game/VN the abandoned tag goes up no matter what anyone else says but the owner of this site.
Even is the game/vn was ask to be put on hold by the dev after 18 months of no game update the abandoned tag goes up.
The abandoned tag lets players know there has been no game update in over 18 months which is a very long time without an update.
Now there is your logical reason for the abandoned tag.
Even if the devs posts status and progress of the game and/or interacting with the players?
 

RomanHume

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By the way, another kind of compromise could be thinking of rewriting the whole game in a different form by yourself, like a pure text adventure for example. Blasphemy, I know: but again, it would be a way to keep the full ownership of your story.
In any case, good luck for your future endeavors!
I actually considered this at one point just because so much is already written.

I don't envy RomanHume. This is a tough position to be in.

To take away from the negativity of some of my posts on this topic, it's just because I really like this story, the characters, and the art. RomanHume did a great job and that's why it pains me to see it could possibly go in the proposed direction.

Also, I forgot the reason why RH isn't doing the renders anymore. Guess I can try to search the thread...it's just been so long that I forgot the reason behind it.
It's time consuming and requires I be in a specific locale to do it. The writing I do on my laptop pretty much anywhere I have a free minute. Airport terminals, coffee shops, hotel rooms, hanging out on the porch. But the artwork requires me to be at my desktop where I have the rendering power and my hours available to dedicate to that portion of the project are scant.

RomanHume tell her that she needs to get past the idea of re-doing the old scenes. Lots of games die when devs decided to remake it from the start in HD, it's a daft idea. Changing the hair can be just handwaved in the story as a change of style.

New content attracts new people, remaking the game takes time and isn't a money maker.
It isn't about money. This is purely a passion project and my love for these girls in the story is what keeps it burning in my heart. However, I think the artist and I have reached a fair compromise and we're going to work closely for the next two months while we are out on holiday. This will give us a good four or five weeks to work together side by side on it and then once we have our stride figured out, we can proceed more remotely and just pass the ball back and forth.

The creator ought to do something with the rights of this game. As in letting someone else take over. There are a few games that need this as well. Hell, I would take a crack at learning how to do everything to take over this one. It's too good to be abandoned and needs to be finished. I'm pretty good when it comes to coming up with a story and writing it. I've always been good with wordplay and stories.
Yeah I tried that for the last year. There were no takers. I even hit a point where I was offering 75% of the financial proceeds to anyone wanting to do the art. Still no takers.

And I have story for days! It's art that I need done. But a solution is ready for testing.

Too many fucking characters kills another Renpy VN
That had nothing to do with it. It was about not having enough hours in a work week to do anything about the art for the game.

RomanHume

The static backgrounds (blurry or not) is certainly a huge downgrade, but there are great games that use a similar approach (Love of Magic being one). This is essentially the "character sprite" concept. The thing is, these floating sprites are ok for regular dialogues and what not, but the sex scenes need to be fully rendered.

Think about it. The floating sprites thing is essentially using the 2DCG VN style with 3D models. 2DCG games use the character sprite in normal dialogues but they pretty much always have full CGs for the scenes. This is where the compromise has to be made. If she can commit to fully rendering at least the sex scenes, I think it could work out.

In all honesty, the writing was the main selling point anyways. As long as the writing stays the same quality, there will be people waiting to play it regardless of what happens to the art direction.
We are going to test two approaches in the course of November and December.
1. Same quantity of images but with stock image backgrounds for dialogue and fully rendered scenes for the sex.
2. Same high quality, fully developed images, but with fewer per scene.

So with option two we would loose some of the facial expression changes that evolve during character conversations, but what remains will be the same top quality as before.

Let me stir the pot a bit on the way out. It's always amusing how people interpret the abandoned tag. As if F95zone putting the tag on a thread somehow makes the game officially dead or something lol. As if the status of the game is somehow in a different state than what it was prior to getting the tag. As if the more than a year with no updates didn't signify clear development issues prior to getting the abandoned tag. As if they are finally justified in urging others to stop spending their money because F95zone said it's abandoned. It's pretty funny.

FYI, games get the abandoned tag for 3 reasons. Dev said it's abandoned, 6(?) months of radio silence, or 18(?) months of no update. This game hit that last criteria and got the tag.
In all fairness, I don't worry about the tag. Once my girl has an update out, that tag can be removed as easily as it was put up.
 

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I actually considered this at one point just because so much is already written.



It's time consuming and requires I be in a specific locale to do it. The writing I do on my laptop pretty much anywhere I have a free minute. Airport terminals, coffee shops, hotel rooms, hanging out on the porch. But the artwork requires me to be at my desktop where I have the rendering power and my hours available to dedicate to that portion of the project are scant.



It isn't about money. This is purely a passion project and my love for these girls in the story is what keeps it burning in my heart. However, I think the artist and I have reached a fair compromise and we're going to work closely for the next two months while we are out on holiday. This will give us a good four or five weeks to work together side by side on it and then once we have our stride figured out, we can proceed more remotely and just pass the ball back and forth.



Yeah I tried that for the last year. There were no takers. I even hit a point where I was offering 75% of the financial proceeds to anyone wanting to do the art. Still no takers.

And I have story for days! It's art that I need done. But a solution is ready for testing.



That had nothing to do with it. It was about not having enough hours in a work week to do anything about the art for the game.



We are going to test two approaches in the course of November and December.
1. Same quantity of images but with stock image backgrounds for dialogue and fully rendered scenes for the sex.
2. Same high quality, fully developed images, but with fewer per scene.

So with option two we would loose some of the facial expression changes that evolve during character conversations, but what remains will be the same top quality as before.



In all fairness, I don't worry about the tag. Once my girl has an update out, that tag can be removed as easily as it was put up.
Nice to see there is some hope
 

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I actually considered this at one point just because so much is already written.



It's time consuming and requires I be in a specific locale to do it. The writing I do on my laptop pretty much anywhere I have a free minute. Airport terminals, coffee shops, hotel rooms, hanging out on the porch. But the artwork requires me to be at my desktop where I have the rendering power and my hours available to dedicate to that portion of the project are scant.



It isn't about money. This is purely a passion project and my love for these girls in the story is what keeps it burning in my heart. However, I think the artist and I have reached a fair compromise and we're going to work closely for the next two months while we are out on holiday. This will give us a good four or five weeks to work together side by side on it and then once we have our stride figured out, we can proceed more remotely and just pass the ball back and forth.



Yeah I tried that for the last year. There were no takers. I even hit a point where I was offering 75% of the financial proceeds to anyone wanting to do the art. Still no takers.

And I have story for days! It's art that I need done. But a solution is ready for testing.



That had nothing to do with it. It was about not having enough hours in a work week to do anything about the art for the game.



We are going to test two approaches in the course of November and December.
1. Same quantity of images but with stock image backgrounds for dialogue and fully rendered scenes for the sex.
2. Same high quality, fully developed images, but with fewer per scene.

So with option two we would loose some of the facial expression changes that evolve during character conversations, but what remains will be the same top quality as before.



In all fairness, I don't worry about the tag. Once my girl has an update out, that tag can be removed as easily as it was put up.
FUKK Yeah glad to hear progress is on the way.

Personally the idea that conversations have render shortcuts sound fine to me. I only care about detail during LEWD scenes and then the most detail I care about is the Lady/Girl. Like the Cass scene that is out already. Does anyone actually scrutinize the detail of the bed and sheets and other elements of the room?? Because WHY???? Cass is hot and sexy and centered in our greedy view so who cares about the background, IMO



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I actually considered this at one point just because so much is already written.



It's time consuming and requires I be in a specific locale to do it. The writing I do on my laptop pretty much anywhere I have a free minute. Airport terminals, coffee shops, hotel rooms, hanging out on the porch. But the artwork requires me to be at my desktop where I have the rendering power and my hours available to dedicate to that portion of the project are scant.



It isn't about money. This is purely a passion project and my love for these girls in the story is what keeps it burning in my heart. However, I think the artist and I have reached a fair compromise and we're going to work closely for the next two months while we are out on holiday. This will give us a good four or five weeks to work together side by side on it and then once we have our stride figured out, we can proceed more remotely and just pass the ball back and forth.



Yeah I tried that for the last year. There were no takers. I even hit a point where I was offering 75% of the financial proceeds to anyone wanting to do the art. Still no takers.

And I have story for days! It's art that I need done. But a solution is ready for testing.



That had nothing to do with it. It was about not having enough hours in a work week to do anything about the art for the game.



We are going to test two approaches in the course of November and December.
1. Same quantity of images but with stock image backgrounds for dialogue and fully rendered scenes for the sex.
2. Same high quality, fully developed images, but with fewer per scene.

So with option two we would loose some of the facial expression changes that evolve during character conversations, but what remains will be the same top quality as before.



In all fairness, I don't worry about the tag. Once my girl has an update out, that tag can be removed as easily as it was put up.
Y'know, I have a 3090 sitting idle at a friend's place most of the day, since I am doing a homeless stint at the moment. Maybe I should set your guy up with remote shell access. ;)
 

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It isn't about money. This is purely a passion project and my love for these girls in the story is what keeps it burning in my heart.
Yeah poor wording, however people do like new content vs remastering I think Sisterly Lust was completed before perv re-did it. I'm just biased in that I want to see the story continue first :D
 
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FUKK Yeah glad to hear progress is on the way.

Personally the idea that conversations have render shortcuts sound fine to me. I only care about detail during LEWD scenes and then the most detail I care about is the Lady/Girl. Like the Cass scene that is out already. Does anyone actually scrutinize the detail of the bed and sheets and other elements of the room?? Because WHY???? Cass is hot and sexy and centered in our greedy view so who cares about the background, IMO



PEACE
I do. It drives me absolutely assbuggy in games where you have ppl going to bed, naked (AFTER acting like taking off their clothes will help them stay warmer in a snowstorm) ON TOP of the blankets. I have seen literally less than a handful of games where ppl are actually UNDER the covers. That are on the bed, and never crawled under. Cause we just need to see the MC's junk, somehow defying gravity and never actually laying against his body, but arcing over him like a wind-bent sapling. EVERY time he goes to sleep. (that is a general thing, not necessarily specific to here)

But yeah. Reusing renders for convos is sensible.
 
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RomanHume

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Jesus Christ. I live in the wrong country. Where are you based where 2 month vacations are routine? Lucky to get 2 weeks (I don't have nearly that, either).
Ok well we don't actually get 2 months off. But everyone at work is taking vacations at different times during this 8 week period so productivity around the office grinds to a slow roll and it offers up a lot of opportunities to flex in a lot more hours on the game.
 

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Ok well we don't get 2 months off. But everyone is taking vacations at different times during this 8 week period so productivity around the office grinds to a slow roll and it offers up opportunities to flex in a lot more hours on the game.
I continue to wish you luck and success. I am sure it has nothing to do with me wanting a Jane/Cassie threesome.. ;)
 

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Jesus Christ. I live in the wrong country. Where are you based where 2 month vacations are routine? Lucky to get 2 weeks (I don't have nearly that, either).
Several European countries have mandated 4-5 weeks vacation (IIRC, the UK is the one with the most, surprisingly). Meanwhile where I live employers are allowed to wait until an entire year of work (sometimes even more because of fuckery with calendar years/fiscal years/etc.) before giving a measly 2 weeks lul.
 

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Several European countries have mandated 4-5 weeks vacation (IIRC, the UK is the one with the most, surprisingly). Meanwhile where I live employers are allowed to wait until an entire year of work (sometimes even more because of fuckery with calendar years/fiscal years/etc.) before giving a measly 2 weeks lul.
Yeah, I actually find mindblowing that the US and other few countries (China? I don't remember exactly) don't have mandatory vacation time
 
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