I really liked the scenes with Nanami and Cassie, I would've loved to see how the other characters' stories progressed, especially Lupita's.
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Honestly, I feel like Meep robbed RomanHume's passion project from him, so seeing her version failing is cathartic.
I think we're in the middle of a decline in VNs in general. What's even left at this point? You could maybe list off a few but how many of those take at least a year to update? Anything is just either kinda bootleg, gets abandoned/ghosted in relatively short order, or is just some random crap I don't give a fuck about. (Oh and man, it really feels like every 3rd game is NTR-centric, you do you but damn dude) Might just be the regular ebbs and flows but the current downturn definitely feels palpable to me.
I never really followed this that closely. I more or less even forgot about it
. I'm only here because I forgot to "unwatch" the thread after turning back on those notifications.Funny, I was the opposite, didn't like the idea of a new dev for the game, but the new game, imho, was different enough from the first so didn't conflicted in my brain, and I liked it.
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i like Nanami / The besty friend rebel and shy gitl and offcoarsse his daughter
most off the chars where defenitly hot except mother aka Wife
most off the chars where defenitly hot except mother aka Wife
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Well, it's probably the same as it is with other things like Onlyfans: People see other people be successful, think it's easy and try it themselves, but they don't see the kind of work that goes into it: First to build a fanbase and earn the trust to get big and then maintain the quality that got you where you are now, if you even make it this far.
There are some pretty big fish from what I've seen, like 20k+ per month big, but most of them are probably low to mid 3 figures which isn't enough to live off of in many countries, so they give up on it or change course so much that the foundation of their "success" breaks away, like let patrons decide how the story goes or introduce something stupid.
Back when Big Brother was still a thing we had Eric as a major roadblock that could be kept in check with the right tools, but at least one other game decided to introduce something similar and it completely backfired, because
1) the fanbase didn't want it and
2) it was implemeted poorly.
To be honest, even in Big Brother, the fanbase didn't want it and it was implemented poorly. Dark Silver also commited the crime of letting his Patreons decide how the story went (which is why of the three possible paths with Lisa there was only one viable one). The only thing that Dark Silver had going for him was the high quality of his renders (at the time) and that was it. If BB would have been released today, it wouldn't even be noticed.
That's a good point. Maybe the last few years were the real outlier here and this is just a return to the mean.
I didn't even really get that invested in VNs until a few years ago even though I started way before then. Which makes sense since when you first start out, you have a lot of things you haven't tried yet so it just seems like there are more options and you don't realize yet that half of those games will be abandoned at some point.
That's also a pretty good point. Back then, a lot of other stuff felt like a fart in the wind compared to BB. It'd be a completely different story now. But I'd still play the shit out of something like it if it was decently made because I like sandbox. The operative phrase being "decently made".
Absolutely. I think what we're seeing is more or less a consequence of market saturation. It's something that happens in pretty much every modern social media / influencer space that promise financial gains: YouTube, Instagram, Tiktok, Onlyfans, Patreon and the like. And unfortunately, the indie space follows the same rules.
It usually starts with a few individuals who gain a large following, and presumably equally large earnings; soon, other people decide to do the same, hoping to achieve the same fame and following. But they soon find that once the market settles, they hit two walls: first, the money circulating does not grow per se, but is simply divided among all the creators, so the addition of more creators simply means that each creator earns less on average - a.k.a, opening a new pub in a street full of pubs. Second, adding new voices to the same market means adding background white noise, and it also makes it harder for newcomers to stand out - or as Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw said, it's like throwing a message in a bottle into a sea of messages in a bottle.
Unfortunately, it's a fish-eats-fish proposition, and it incentivizes creators to seek the largest common denominator to maximize profits. This also leads to the blandest creations possible, and high abandonment rates as was said. As for me, I usually look for the few passion projects, led by creators that care less about the profits and more about telling the story they really want to. This means wading through a lot of cruft, and possibly not noticing hidden pearls; but I think that's inevitable when you have a limited amount of time to dedicate to an hobby.
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Pity really. Dev abandoned it because his new job was simply too demanding but very well paying so he thought this would never manage to compensate for that.
Now there is Steam. This game would have been a total success.
Real pity.
Now there is Steam. This game would have been a total success.
Real pity.
So much potential. The renders, corporate espionage, incest relationships, pregnancy scare, amazing background scores, good storyline.
Such a pity it's abandoned!!!!
Such a pity it's abandoned!!!!
i know this is abandoned but is version 1.1.15 "complete" enough? like does it end at an "acceptable" stopping point?
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Not really, IMO. Neither does v2.0.0p. The version numbers are basically just milestones, where additional events were made available. There isn't really any ending — to the overall plot, to the relationships, or to the sessions with Dr. Amana. The scenes that exist are IMO all very good; they just all leave you hanging basically. The evening event with v2.0.0p is probably one of the most complete in terms of relationship progress with its character in focus. But it's clear there might have been a whole lot more to come that never managed to see the light of day . . . for all of the different storylines.
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In the earlier parts of the game, there are animations. But the latter part (at least for sure not in the latest Cassie event), there aren't any. The reason is probably just b/c real-life for RomanHume swallowed up his time to work on them in later parts of the game. But I for sure remember them for Nanami, Jane, and either girl at the club (Lola / Lita). It's been awhile, but I'm positive about those.