VN Ren'Py Abandoned Dr. Amana, Sexual Therapist [v2.0.0P] [Ianvs]

[GhostPhil]

I don't like NTR. It killed Big Brother for me. I would not do that to our own community. But I do like the challenge of writing things I'm comfortable with or enjoy. I think tasks like that make me better. But it will be 100% optional. And not the kind of optional where "It happened but you didn't see it." It will be the kind of optional where "It didn't fucking happen at all."

That's great to hear. I mean I don't mind having some NTR in a game as long as it is optional and I am getting another scene instead

 

[RomanHume]

I do! Sorry, I couldn't resist that one.

I already know who she was made from, thanks

Well if you want to validate your findings, she's a modification we built using this base.

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If you decide to make any fan art, please share. We'd love to see it!

 

[oidex]

So we've given it some serious thought and while having story paths that don't end up with sex would round out the game considerably, it strays quite a bit from the original concept. Our goal was to set out a game where you could make choices, see the impact they have, but have them arranged in such a way that there were no "wrong" choices. In other words, you don't have to play our game and try to discover the correct path to sex. All roads lead to Rome here. But each road offers a different view and a different perspective of the city when you arrive.

Fair enough, you don't want to stray too far from the original goal, I can respect that. Either way, I'm strapped in for the ride.
I just hope there is a path we can take where shit doesn't blow up TOO much in our faces. Guess we'll find out the old fashioned way!

 

[Dilettante]

Well, as far as backlash, I'm used to that by now. I don't let it bother me because I think even the worst of the nay-sayers will be impressed when it's done. Trans/NTR/Etc. Those aren't my fetishes. Don't like any of them really and wouldn't make a game that forces them on people.

But I do like the idea of making a game that is as inclusive as possible. And with our compartmentalized story structure and ability to seamlessly integrate alternative versions of scenes, I think we are in the best possible position to give everyone a little something special.

In response to what you and others have said here, I think we are going to work on splitting out Emily's "rational behavior" to an unfaithful husband from the weird NTR type shit that Nanami is capable of and break those into two separate options. They're already going to exist independently as scenes and story arcs. It's no trouble creating a new flag that separates the two events so that one can be turned on while the other off. So you can look forward to that.

It's certainly brave of you to try something fresh like this. And if you say that we are gonna be impressed, I'm very much looking forward to what you'll come up with in trans department, and these Emily and Nanami paths. Excited to see just how weird Nanami's shit gonna turn out.

 

[abcde]

Anybody got the new update ?

 

[UncleVT]

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Progress
Having wrapped up Jane's second scene, we are already hard at work on bringing our poor Lupita up to speed. We know she's been neglected up until this point, but don't worry, we're about to do right by her. We did a last minute re-write on her introduction and added a few more things that really help round out the scene. It's larger and more robust than what we had before, and we think the final version will be a crowd pleaser. One of our new goals moving forward is to make the scenes longer, larger and more robust than before. We not only want to increase the amount of content in each release, but we want that content to be richer and more colorful than the economical scenes we've been producing.
We're always looking for ways to improve. We hope you agree that we are.
Poll
Patreon participation in these polls has certainly been on the rise, and we thank you for that. You're feedback in invaluable to our development. That said, this last poll was a close one. Cassie and Amanda were neck and neck almost the whole the entire way, but in the final day Cassie managed to eek out a victory. So once we finish wrapping up on Lupita, I'll set to work doing the final draft of Cassie's follow-up scenes while Fecal continues work on Lupita's renders.
We'll be launching our next poll on Monday, November 19th. It will be another wardrobe poll. This time, Cassie needs help picking out some new sleepwear. In an effort to garner the attention of a certain male head of the house, Cassie went shopping for something special. With Jane's help, she narrowed it down to three.
Now due to Patreon guidelines, we can't show the entirety of the images publicly, but when the poll launches the uncensored version will be visible to $5 patrons. So here is a sneak peek of your upcoming decision...

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What's Next
We've noticed a trend in the last two polls. Jane, Cassie and Amanda typically lead, with Nanami and Lupita trailing behind. That said, we're going to skip the next development poll and push up Amanda and Nanami into the next slots for development. Time permitting, we'll also try and squeeze in Emily's next scene as well, but this will depend solely on how rapidly we progress through the two prior characters.
For everyone who has been waiting ever so patiently for us to pass where we abandoned our alpha, that time is drawing very, very near. Thus while the beta has seen a major overhaul of the previous material making it "new" in many ways, we'll soon have some fresh tales to throw your way. We're excited about it and we hope you are too.
Weekly Preview
This week's teaser is a feature from Lupita's upcoming introduction. Enjoy!

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[RomanHume]

I do like this one and would support you on Patreon, however, five USD is too much on the rich side for me. So I will wait and see where this one is going.

You know, you said this and I immediately thought to myself, "then donate at the $1 tier". But I wasn't going to push the issue. Then I got to talking to Xanatos who helps co-maintains the Patreon page and he informed me that we don't have a $1 tier!?

The reason this is such an alarming over sight to me is because we actually ran a poll with our patrons to ascertain whether it was preferred to have a 5-tiered system or simply a 2-tiered system.

So there was always supposed to be $1 and a $5 tier. We have a lot of people still in the $1 tier who have been receiving the updates 3 weeks early, but the tier itself was switched to unpublished which eliminated the ability for new people to sign up.

I'm not asking you to dive on there and throw us some money.

I really just want to say thank you for indirectly bringing this oversight to my attention!

We've now got the $1 tier republished and the discord roles set up properly.

Cheers mate and thanks again!

 

[sephar]

can anyone reupload the walkthrough ?

 

[Bagger288]

….are we still talking about sex games? Or are we actually talking about ice cream now?

Ultimately we were always making a game where people would only see 50% of it. The idea is to make that 50% feel like 100% of a game. We want that 50% to be so robust and dense that when you're done, you can replay it, make different choices, and feel like you got 100% of an almost entirely different game. The only way we can make the choices matter is by having alternative versions of scenes. If all it did was change a few lines of dialogue, the whole experience would be disappointing. Especially if when replaying it you can't really tell what changed.

But since we're already writing two alternative versions of a scene, there is little complication in writing a third version that features some off color kink. At the end of the day, all of the required dialogue that is needed to drive the story will get reused, so you're talking about a couple of hours writing. Since the type of sex is all that changes, you're adding maybe a dozen new renders and an animation or two. We're talking about a day or two worth of production to create a variant on a scene that includes something like trans content.

We think that is a pretty fair return on investment. Cheers mate. Thanks for all the good feedback!

Okay, so I don't mind you having 2 (sometimes 3) different crossing paths through the game, with the small exception I've mentioned before of the third option being so invisible that even you keep not counting it: I mean, of course, the path where you switch between blue and red, to get e.g. domineering behavior in your own office. The two major paths are what I would call ice cream flavors in your analogy, though the opportunity to (successfully) jump between them is atypical, and there I have to stress that two flavors is no buffet. So while I take no issue with your offering, my hairs do prick up at your conception of it. The third path is more along the line of toppings, by virtue of being something of a subversion of a scene rather than a full-fledged jump, but again not quite a pure expression of the optional content that I associate with the simile.

What I'm getting at here is that in your game, optional kinks aren't a good fit. You're establishing two contrasting themes for each character, and those are the optional kinks you get to play with. You can maybe add something small like a choice between a paddle or a riding crop (though I wouldn't), or you can maybe add a choice between a scene and skipping it (a topping), but each of those has to be subservient to one of the two major kinks in order to remain discoverable. What's more, as kinks get more fringe, people start expecting the games to cater more heavily to them and actually like a game less for having either any of an offensive flavor at all or for having only a little of it, so a game about 11-foot women has to have 11-foot women in every scene and not in a dream sequence (and the dream sequence alone will drive other people away), or a gay-tagged game can't just have one lesbian scene in it to be enjoyable for someone looking for gay games.

 

[Tilur]

@RomanHume
You are welcome, no big deal.
I stand to my word, so I support you now. Looking forward to your next update.

 

[RomanHume]

True enough, but that doesn't mean that there needs to be scenes written for multiple non sexual routes. Staying loyal would just lead to less scenes in the same way that it does now. I overall like the idea of non sexual routes because it would be a more well rounded game. I suppose it comes down to, again, what is the scope of the game. I think I'm cautions about adding additional non sexual routes because then it's just another thing on the dev's plate and I've seen plenty of projects (patreon and in my work life) that suffer and fall apart after trying to add in too much stuff.

We completely agree that non-sexual routes would make the game more rounded out. But given the amount of content we already have planned and the work load ahead of us, we've decided to shelve this idea for now and just stay focused on the sexual routes. It is possible that in a future game we flesh out this idea of sex and non sex but with fewer love interests. At this point it would add too much to the development time and we'd have to start coming up with new plots to fill a no sex story arc. We're not saying it isn't a good idea, but we aren't in a place right now to execute it in an economical fashion.

Adding kinks is easy. A doze or so optional renders and two dozen lines of dialogue. But creating whole new arcs is a different animal. We try to stay very cognizant of how much we can chew before taking a bite out of something.

Just to be clear on that, I'm not specifically ASKING for anything, I'll probably enjoy it either way. My surprise stemmed from the fact that I was under the impression that that was already the case, and now finding out that I was mistaken.

No worries mate. It was very good thought exercise and definitely something we'll keep in mind for our next project.

Well, there will have to be something going on for him to go to a therapist, but there are many ways to spin it, from cringy lectures to voyeurism to it was all a dream to no-contact BDSM to spicing things up with the wife. It really depends on what you want to be the fixed points in the story.
I'm thinking of an approach where Roger had relegated sexuality to the side and is suddenly overwhelmed by it in both himself and those around him, but he has lines he can't cross because they're so integral to his old worldview. That still leaves plenty of room for lines he has never drawn.

All very good suggestions, but for now we're going to focus on the sex. We gave it some real thought but at the moment we want to stay close to concept to avoid having to build up entire new arcs for the time being. But next game perhaps.

For Roger to see a therapist even on good husband route? Easy.. He's under TREMENDOUS STRESS, the marriage is fraying at the seams, and he's got all this time and easy temptation surrounding him. Of course, he's gonna have thoughts of "She's HOT. Let's bang, baby." His desire to avoid acting on those thoughts is what would send him to a therapist because he's afraid he'll act out and lose his marriage.
On the flip side of the coin, he could be really, really lewd and acting out on it. And he's seeing the therapist to discuss the aftermath of his actions. Whether that is good or bad, we won't know until the end of the game.

Edited. had a thought.
It could play out like this-

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All very viable scenarios. And definitely stuff we'll keep in mind for our next project. We talked it out and for now we're going to stick with the sex we have planned. But I can definitely see us expanding on the non-sex story in our next project from the get go.

Pulling out all the stops eh? Well then how bout not only getting the girls preggers we also get to see full blow pregnant sex? 99% of games just end with a "congratulations you got so and so pregnant" we never get a follow up or any thing, we may get a shot or 2 with the girl a few months along but that's it. Off the top of my head only Tangled Up continues after the initial discovery. It would be fun to see hown far your willing to push it.

Look, no offense...but why would we go to the trouble of making pregnant models and then avoid using them in fuck scenes? That would be absurd. Each pregnant character will have a three scene "pregnant arc" that will indeed include several sex scenes. When I say we're in, I mean we're in! Cheers mate!

Solid game so far, but needs a lot more content.

Also.... Is Amana a man?

Thanks for giving it a shot and letting us know what you think. As far as more content, we're busting ass and hopefully will have more very very soon. Salute mate!

@RomanHume I appreciate a dev who takes his time and interact with players of their games and reads the feedback. Keep it up.

It may take us a day or two, especially when the forum goes through bursts of activity, but we make a real effort to reply to everything, good and bad.

I can't tell you the number of good ideas we've gotten from the players on this forum. F95 Zone has been invaluable to us! Thanks for playing!


That's it for tonight. I'll try to knock out a few more responses in the morning. F95, we salute you!

 

[TheDevian]

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Progress
Having wrapped up Jane's second scene, we are already hard at work on bringing our poor Lupita up to speed. We know she's been neglected up until this point, but don't worry, we're about to do right by her. We did a last minute re-write on her introduction and added a few more things that really help round out the scene. It's larger and more robust than what we had before, and we think the final version will be a crowd pleaser. One of our new goals moving forward is to make the scenes longer, larger and more robust than before. We not only want to increase the amount of content in each release, but we want that content to be richer and more colorful than the economical scenes we've been producing.
We're always looking for ways to improve. We hope you agree that we are.
Poll
Patreon participation in these polls has certainly been on the rise, and we thank you for that. You're feedback in invaluable to our development. That said, this last poll was a close one. Cassie and Amanda were neck and neck almost the whole the entire way, but in the final day Cassie managed to eek out a victory. So once we finish wrapping up on Lupita, I'll set to work doing the final draft of Cassie's follow-up scenes while Fecal continues work on Lupita's renders.
We'll be launching our next poll on Monday, November 19th. It will be another wardrobe poll. This time, Cassie needs help picking out some new sleepwear. In an effort to garner the attention of a certain male head of the house, Cassie went shopping for something special. With Jane's help, she narrowed it down to three.
Now due to Patreon guidelines, we can't show the entirety of the images publicly, but when the poll launches the uncensored version will be visible to $5 patrons. So here is a sneak peek of your upcoming decision...

*Right-click and Save As for a larger version.
What's Next
We've noticed a trend in the last two polls. Jane, Cassie and Amanda typically lead, with Nanami and Lupita trailing behind. That said, we're going to skip the next development poll and push up Amanda and Nanami into the next slots for development. Time permitting, we'll also try and squeeze in Emily's next scene as well, but this will depend solely on how rapidly we progress through the two prior characters.
For everyone who has been waiting ever so patiently for us to pass where we abandoned our alpha, that time is drawing very, very near. Thus while the beta has seen a major overhaul of the previous material making it "new" in many ways, we'll soon have some fresh tales to throw your way. We're excited about it and we hope you are too.
Weekly Preview
This week's teaser is a feature from Lupita's upcoming introduction. Enjoy!

*Right-click and Save As for a larger version for your desktop or child's lunchbox.

I like the pink one best, though the others are cute. The white one shows a lot of skin, and that is nice, and the blue one looks really soft.

 

[TobyQ]

Well now it wouldn't be very exciting if we didn't make it visible. =D

Our assumption is that people who say they want pregnancy in the game, want Pregnancy! So we're going to pull out all the stops when that time comes. No fears mate. Just be patient with us. The timing has the be right for the story.

there is not enough of that option with some of these family games. Very well done.

 

[Lotex]

There was some more before, but it got a makeover and this is what's been finished until now.

 

[dstarfire]

I just played this game for the first time.
While I like the way it is made, it seems that there is very little content considering that it has been out for a year now.

Or am I missing something? I've gone through all the scenes that have previews in the OP.
Is there an incredible amount of content that I missed because of choices made in the game?
Kinda doubt it.

No. There was a reboot a few months ago where the devs essentially started over from scratch. Search this thread for reboot to see the details. In short, to say the first version was basically the dev team learning how to use their tools (daz, renpy, etc.). You can still find it on their site.

 

[RomanHume]

I mean if I treat somebody like dirt and they act like a bitch that's completely deserves so that wouldn't particularly change my mind. It might just have to be one of those games I completely turn off my brain for and take myself fully out of the story. As the way you frame it the MC is sort of destined to be an asshole if you want much content, which is pretty standard fare on this site albeit a little disappointing to my tastes. I've always been somebody who's more about routes focused on a single character that can extend to other characters either early on before the relationship is confirmed or later in terms of threesomes or what have you, although I understand many here love either the harem or hook up spree type gameplay it's not exactly my preference.

And in terms of physical tastes I actually am not fond of Amanda either (as a potential sexual partner anyway) she looks and acts like a 15-16 year old, makes me very uncomfortable personally.

I think the game is fine and I'll continue to follow it due to some decent renders and a couple characters I find interesting but yea, tastes are different for everyone.

Because we wanted to create a broad appeal, we felt having a strong variety of characters was essential. It always fascinates me to hear people explain which characters they like and why. It really highlights the diversity in people's preferences and I'm always happy that people seem to gravitate strongly towards at least one character.

But no, being an asshole is not required to advance in this story. Both the red and blue paths lead to relationships. In most cases, but not all cases, blue will lead to a deeper, more passionate relationship built on love, while red will be more rapid fire, feisty and built on lust. If we had a larger team or more resources, we would love to have non-sexual stories for the characters people don't choose to pursue romantically, but for the time being we have to focus on the original promise of a diverse sex based story. (In future projects to make this possible we may focus on less than seven love interests, but for this project we've promised players no more major alterations.)

But we would like to think that for players who want to focus on only one person at a time could replay the game choosing to focus on a different love interest and in that way perhaps follow a more monogamous route while getting to devour the different angles of the story.

We hope that by the time we're done, we've supplied you enough content to at least entertain you and hopefully excite you for our next project. We're learning a lot here that we want to apply in the next go around. So we'll see what the future holds. Cheers mate.

Sure I want to give you a chance but please do not take it personally but I've heard such promises here too often and then comb it as I've described focus then only on this crap a game ka what the name was there was ntr is totally optional it will be search in the future and what was then ??? then came the message that the next updates are all ntr focused and someday in the future a small romatic route comes because

you feel like something of total rage I someday a small romantic route really? Especially as it was synonymous in the game bdsm, rape, corruption and all that was where I thought then ok if I can turn off the damn game destructive ntr but turn on the rest it could be interesting but nbaja then just the stupid message I just find it sad that every good game is destroyed with the stuff the most ridiculous example is there the tyrant what we have

to play there is the most unremarkable ridiculous joke figure of all time since the real mc is yes davide and, to be honest, such miserable caresses tickle me as well as me such people are treated like dirt in the rl only to me, such people just can not take seriously .... and deshaln pisses me that everywhere obsessive this ntr shit is brought in

Well the thing is......hrm….nope. You completely lost me. All I can say is, come back in a couple of months, see what we've done and how we are handling this delicate topic, and see if you are still interested. I think you will be. I think a lot of people will be. Salute.

@RomanHume Loved the game... I'm guessing v1.0.3 was the prologue to introduce the characters and all of the game won't be a huge flashback... I need to see the old fart who demoted us fall.(More than sex scenes,yes...)

I loved the characters. It is nice to see that I can manipulate and modify the nature of the relationship. Nanami and Jane are my favourites...

One thing bothers me is I love sex faces and well most sex scenes are just showing us the penetration part. I would love to be able to switch between different camera angles but I am guessing that would increase the render times exponentially since you need to render same scene 2 or 3 times... Still it would be a nice addition...

The whole game is intended to be a flashback, though to the reader it's sort of told in pseudo realtime I guess. But don't worry, he\'s telling Amana how it all started and a lot will happen before the end. You\'ll have a real chance to take down Arthur, fear not. He's a bastard, and we're looking forward to kicking his ass too.

As far as the sex scenes, as we move further into the story we will do everything we can to make them longer and more dynamic. Part of it is getting better at coding the flow of the sex scene as well mastering the animation techniques required to show what we want to show. Currently you can switch between three camera angles with Emily's sex scene in the bathtub, and Jane's sex scene in v1.0.4 includes four angles, one of them showing her face. The animations are less than perfect, but we're getting better with each one.

Definitely hang tight with us because that is an area that we look to make some major improvements. I mean, it's one of the driving points of the story for crying out loud. We gotta learn to get it right. =D

Well, i'm color blind (nah lies, just a bad memory) and if i can make the dev doubt it, it's not so strange i remembered the color wrong. But it was not another game, it was Amanda and she looked more mature. Ahwell, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For me old Amanda was one to pop out and i was very curious for the story you would make around her. New Amanda looks too young for my taste to be a sexual interest. All other changes to the story and characters i like though.

So the only thing we changed about Amanda between the alpha and the beta was the shape of her hair. But one place we made a major improvement was studying facial expressions and body language, and transferring that knowledge into Daz. So Amanda in the alpha used a lot of pre-made poses and we didn't do much with her face. We did simple shit like make her smile and talk, but that was about it.

By the time beta rolled around, we knew how to draw out the innocence in her that we were originally aiming for. We gave her a bit of a slouch, her shoulders are dropped, her head is always a little lower. Her mouth canted partially to give her a look of uncertainty. But the base model is 100% the same. So while I am sorry to hear that you feel new Amanda looks too young, I also take it as a compliment to our Daz skills that we have managed to create that sense youth through facial expressions and body language alone without actually changing her physical characteristics.

But I am happy to hear that you find the other improvements to the game satisfying. We appreciate you taking the time to offer up your opinion. It means much to us. Cheers mate!

Honestly, I found the mix of awkward descriptions, knowing winks and open disdain for invasive thought-policing pretty funny. Wouldn't even want to patch it out

My "step... neighbors... temporary tenant" indeed.

Would you tell your therapist that you had sex with your 18 year old daughter? It works, that introduction is to Dr. Amanda, so he isn't forward about it.

I am relieved that some people get the joke and appreciate it. I mean, I'm looking over my shoulders and reminding everyone that there is no daughter in this game. But Roger does get a little awkward sometimes for sure. =P

just create background images for the choice menu within gui/phone/button

I appreciate this info. It saves us a bunch of time. We just haven't had the time at the moment to dig through all the folder structures and isolate what needed done. Molte Grazie! Salute mate!

You really liked Sisterly Lust once you found it.

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, IMO, is up there with Sisterly Lust. It's one of the games I play as soon as a new version comes out.

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is made by the author of Parental Love. There was a lot of angst on the PL thread when he started making it, similar to the stuff on the DmD thread when Melody was announced. And, like Melody, A69 was well received. It's only had 1 release so far, and I haven't played it yet, but the general consensus is very positive.

Cuck and NTR are sort of the same. The both encompass a range of things.
Cuck can be:

• cheating behind the SO's back
• "cheating" with permission
• hotwifing

With or without humiliation, with or without knowledge.

NTR can be (from the point of view of playing a game/VN):

• Netorare - someone steals the MC's love interest
• Netori - the MC steals someone else's love interest

The MC doesn't need to know with Netorare, but the player does. The idea is to generate feelings of jealousy in the player, which some people like.

I'll have to check out A69 if I ever get a break.

As for the kinks, I wish someone would release a websters bible of kink defintions because every time I think I got something figured out, some savant informs me that there is even more granularity to it than I thought. Lol.

Maybe what I'll do is just release a list of scenarios on the forum, and everyone can tell me what category it falls into so that we can properly label our kink options in the game. I appreciate the education though, truly!

To clarify, the players were upset when they thought the development of PL was going to be slowed down by the newer project, A69. Luxee has made it very clear that A69 was written as a one-shot introduction to an idea that the developer doesn't plan to work on until PL is finished.
Since it is only a one-shot, it would only be an investment of about 15-20 minutes of your time. It is a GREAT example of the tasteful introduction of a trans character, but there's not really much beyond that. Still, considering how good PL is, I hope to play a full version of A69 at some point in the future.

Excellent background info. I can probably spare 15-20 minutes some weekend in the near future. I'll have to give it a shot. Thanks again sir!

 

[RomanHume]

i didnt read the whole topic for the game, so i dont know if this was ever brought up to u, but there are major plot holes in your story that u may want to address in a later update (i do like the story's premise tho), the issues i found with the game are these, when u have the bath scene u refer to emilys motherhood, but u have no child in the story, u say ur girls, but all the girls are 'neighbors' daughters, and there is no reference to ur 'children', so either a code lock to introduce incest content or an official incest patch would be required to address this (or else add another char to maintain the having children thing), and from the look of a couple scenes at the pool when introducing the girls it looks like u wouldnt have any 'neighbors' as the house looks to be a rather rural location without any neighbors for quite some distance, so id prolly change the reference to the girls from neighbors daughters to friends daughters, itd fix the issue more easily for this apparent plot hole (and it would make the story flow a bit better while adhering to patreons ridiculous tos), but the biggest contradiction in the story is the emily thing, anyone playing would be like "what?", i dont want to sound like an asshole here or anything, this is just my observation as an amateur novelist, and most writers will notice this discrepancy when they read the story, but they are easily fixable with some minor dialogue tweaks or character introductions. also theres the age of the girls, didnt it refer to them all being 18 (if all 3 are ur daughters and are the same age that leads to a whole issue of wtf), as only the red haired girl said anything about graduating recently (that i can remember), the other two didnt say much about school i dont think, its kinda hard to explain what im trying to say here for this, but if all 3 are ur daughters id have em aged 18, 19 and 20 to avoid any conflict with timelines, if only one is ur daughter then its fine, but this is just tying in to the whole emily thing from earlier again, i hope this makes sense.


as for the unofficial patch, id recommend putting a notepad doc into the zip file to instruct users where to put the files, there are multiple files and i did what seemed obvious but it did nothing, if it was a single .py file being dumped into the game folder itd be simple, but this patch is the most complicated one ive come across to date.

again i want to say im not trying to be an asshole to the ianvs team here, i like the story so far, but the plot issues should be addressed, im sure others have noticed this discrepancy in the story aswell, and they could potentially break ur future storyboard (well the emily thing and the age thing could, the neighbor thing not so much but the scenes lead to u wondering where these neighbors live and how far away). i hope u found this insight a bit helpful with correcting ur plot issues while dealing with patreons idiocy. im gonna stop there, seeing as i ended up with two long tirades about patreons stupidity, and theres no reason to go into it here, ill simply say it, patreons run by idiots....ahhh i feel better now .

I think your "discovery" of plot holes can be remedied by helping you understand some of the story elements better. First off, there is no daughter. Including a daughter would violate Patreon T's & C's against incest. But there is a single "neighbor's daughter" who lives with Roger and Emily because her parents are out of town on business.

But being in a rural location doesn't eliminate neighbors. Even if you live in the country, your property is going to run up against someone else's and that person would be your neighbor. Still, the neighborhood Roger lives in has large estate-like homes that butt up against large parcels of undeveloped land behind the homes (we don't explain this in the story because it's irrelevant). If you looked out Roger's front door you would see other houses across the street.

Since only Cassie is the neighbor's daughter and the other two are her friends from high school, there is no reason all three of them can't be the wonderful age of 18.

I hope this helps put your mind at ease and gives you confidence that we've thought our story out very well. Thank you for playing and thank you for taking the time to send us your feedback. We read all of it. Cheers mate.

I can't speak for the authors, and your feedback indicates it could perhaps be made clearer, but the MC's behavior in the therapist's office is supposed to lead the reader to the conclusion that Cassie is actually his daughter (the other two are her friends, that's clear), but he doesn't want to tell the therapist that. He also might be lying about his "... neighbor's daughter's" age, although there's no reason to assume she is underage. (Side note: Even with confidentiality clauses, a therapist would be required by law to report a crime. Depending on the country, that would include incest, and that would CERTAINLY include sex with a minor.) So that does explain why Emily is a mom, but the MC doesn't tell the therapist about their kids. In my view, it's a rather creative way of getting around Patreon's TOS too.

I mean, that would be creative...if that is what we were doing. But we would never try to subvert Patreon's policies. That would be dishonest. And every person on my team is as straight as a grizzly bear's dick. So yeah. No daughter.....*cough*

The MC is relating something that happened in the past. You often see something like that written or spoken totally in past tense, so "Cassie was" indicates what she was at the time the story happened, not at the time the story was told. It's easier for a storyteller (MC, not @RomanHume ) to stick with one tense.

You hit the nail on the head. Our use of "was" is simply in the interest of maintaining a consistent tense throughout the story. Grammatically, both "is" and "was" are correct. Was doesn't have to imply death. It could also imply the neighbor's moved away and she's no longer the "Neighbor's Daughter" but rather "so-and-so's daughter" in the present. Since the whole story is taking place in the past, we try to stay consistent with the past tense. We do slip up on occasion and try to fix it when we catch it, but there are a lot of moving parts.

I havent played this in months but i remember it had content with the maid, or im mixing games? Was this redone or what happened

We are actually working on the Maid's revised content now and should have that ready for the next update. This next update should catch us up, and move past where the alpha version of the game left off. So stay tuned, more content coming soon.

Thanks @RomanHume and crew for a interesting and great start to a game. It's great to hear about all the work and thought that goes into your product. Hopefully more people will put that lip service into monetary help.

As for all the love interests. I like all of them especially Jane and Monica (Mainly because I'm a fan of athletic/fit/fem muscle girls). To bad there is not a plump/bbw girl (Can't have all the types).

I'm all for character interactions that don't lead to the MC not having sex with the character. Obviously if this pulls to much away from the content that you or your fans want then maybe save that to near the end of the product. But I'm usually saddened that if we don't pursue a girl sexually in the story. They all of sudden disappear and never interact with the story despite the fact they did at the beginning. If you want to add sexual encounters in friends paths maybe they could turn into the MC being a real big fan of voyeurism. Likes to watch more than being a part of the action.

But in the end it's a adult game with sex and for most that is a goal to be achieved. So i'm good either way.

Keep up the good work.

Cheers

First off, thanks for playing and letting us know what you think. As far as the No-sex path, we are going to shelf that for now because it'd deviates from what we had envisioned for this story. When we first started laying out our plot, we were focused on what we as players would want out of the game. For instance, banging everything with two legs and two eyebrows. It never occurred to us at that time that there was interest in a non-sexual route. But there has been enough of a call for it that we will definitely keep that in mind when developing our next game. This whole process is a giant learning experience and when we shifted into beta we had to make a firm commitment that no matter what else we learned, we just needed to stay the course and stockpile the ongoing experience gain for the next product. If we didn't we'd end up rebooting this one fifty times before we got to the half way point. Lol.

As for your request of a BBW character, we do have a side character coming up in the Roger/Nanami story line that is "obtainable" just not as a long term love interest. Her name is Candice and she works in the warehouse. She's rocking the soccer-mom bod and has some serious booty. Hopefully she'll help tide your appetite till we release a game with a BBW main love interest.

I wouldn't say I would need a walkthrough for this game, you are basically picking one route or another with each girl, but it would be nice to see what the red and blue responses are, since they are different for each girl. Though, if I remember correctly, you said you had panned for a 'stat sheet' for the girls at some point, so I figure that is still coming, or I just missed it. :winkytongue:

I completely agree, but there was enough of a call for one we made it anyway. =D

Eventually we'll have some kind of visual indicator for each of your relationships, but we gotta step up our renpy skillz a bit before we try to tackle that. At the moment we're focusing on content, but that is definitely on the back burner.


Salute all!

 

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As for your request of a BBW character, we do have a side character coming up in the Roger/Nanami story line that is "obtainable" just not as a long term love interest. Her name is Candice and she works in the warehouse. She's rocking the soccer-mom bod and has some serious booty. Hopefully she'll help tide your appetite till we release a game with a BBW main love interest.

Thanks for the reply @RomanHume. Did not expect such a cutie to appear . Can't wait to see when she'll appear.

I think this will tide me over for a bit.

Excelsior

P.S I don't know why it copies the image twice when I quoted it. That just means more soccer mom to go around.

 

[TheDevian]

Eventually we'll have some kind of visual indicator for each of your relationships, but we gotta step up our renpy skillz a bit before we try to tackle that. At the moment we're focusing on content, but that is definitely on the back burner.
Salute all!

One alternate, could be to at least say what you are getting when you make a choice, either a note by the choice, or as a message right after you pick it. Such as +2 Real, or +2 Shy, or whatever the option gives you. It may not give you a total that way, but it will give you an idea of the path you are on, and the direction you are going.

 

[Ignatz]

Just to get you back on feet...a new DAST update for those in a post-Thanksgiving coma. The rest of you, well, it's just more interesting info on this game as it begins to fulfill its promise...

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Weekly Update 2018-11-23
Progress
Stupid busy week this week what with Holidays and all, but we're still jamming. Lupita's scene is nearly complete and we're part way through the re-writes on Cassie's next two story paths. Our goal is to continue working for the next couple of weeks and have three characters ready for our next update. Lupita, Cassie and Nanami will all feature in our next release provided everything goes according to plan. We also have a few additional surprises along the way that we'll reveal as the timing is right. Exciting stuff ahead and finally some actual "New" content for those who have been following us since the alpha.
Poll
We've seen remarkable participation in Cassie's nightwear poll. If you're a $5 patron and you haven't voted yet, you can do so

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. If you're not a $5 patron, what are you waiting for? This is where the hot action is! Jump on board and make your preferences known.
The choices are among the three nightie's below. You can see the uncensored version in the actual poll (which may or may not help your decision making). We've got 10 days left to vote. So chime in!

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What's Next
We are going to drive hard to get these three characters ready for the next release. We have a few weeks of work ahead of us but there is some more vacation time coming up for December that we're going to use to really drive the ball ahead. Lupita's scene is nearly done. So the outline for the remaining work consists of two Cassie scenes, and two Nanami scenes. I've noticed that as we get further into this project, the scenes are getting longer and heavier. This draws out the production time a little but greatly increases the amount of content. We'll keep you updated as work progresses.
Weekly Preview
This week's preview is a test render from one of Cassie's upcoming scenes. Cassie's driving test is coming up soon and she wants a refresher. Besides, a little alone time will be good for the two of you, don't you think? Bonding and what-not.

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It's a short update but that's all for now. Cheers mates!