VN Ren'Py Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

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Turret

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Well, as far as this bug at Patreon goes, we´ll see how much was truly dropping support and how much wrong sent payments.
But my main argument still stands. Gumdrop is using up his goodwill at astonishing speed, quite in contrast to his working speed. I too remember well his posts in December. He bought some top-of-the-line PC stuff and went on how fast he now could work. 8 months later you see nothing of that, instead he became slower!
He can be glad that he has no shop or bureau, because rightly pissed off boys and girls would be there all the time. A normal firm could nver do such shenigans without a serious backblow. And my warning for gumdrop is meant as such. He erodes any trust he had with his behaviour. That can still be a stable situation for a time, but you cannot evade fate endlessly.
I saw that with a competitor of the firm I work in. We were baffled how they functioned so well, knowing what we did about their situation and customer services.
It went on longer than most people would have bet, but then within a few days they fell down like a house of cards. Lost trust and goodwill were not the main reasons, but a big part of it.
Gumdrop seems to underestimate this loss outside of his cheerleaders group. If gumdrop has the nose for nilking we give him, then he should recognise that it would be better in the long run if he updated sooner than later. Because he is coutrting the sudden death of his dairy farm, with all the lies, hyperbole and lacking progress, when even people with less great PCs churn out quality updates far faster. One day even the die-hards will have lost any trust, he is lucky he has patrons like he has, but they too will get fed up with this "specialist".
 

yankee77

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is just me.... or @Vanaduke did a lot of content than the dev of this game for all this time....
hmmmm.....

created a website for progress.....when all the time it takes to make the website turned into rendering...
@Vanaduke pdf version incoming?
 
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Vanaduke

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I'll be honest. Abby S*****o was the main reason I stopped paying any attention to Gumdrops Discord channel. At the slightest hint of a negative view from someone she/he (no clue sorry) would swoop in and either straight up personally attack that person or rage so hard I'm surprised there wasn't nerve damage incurred. Criticism, even if constructive is barely allowed a look in. Am I right in thinking this update is still at least a couple of weeks away? Realistically going on current time per update, this could possibly be the last update this year. Honestly, saying that in August is absolutely insane.
That schmuck is the sole perpetrator why pin ups are exclusive to 20 CE patrons. Kyle and I had an elaborate conversation of the objective and flaws of the game where I convinced him to create pin up renders as a compensation for his incompetence and Abby butts in it should only be available to 20 pledgers. Every CE patrons tuning in our conversation spammed the channel in support of Abby; the rest where clamoring to support my petition but Kyle, our dear dairy farmer is exploiting the trend Abby started.

I haven't been in touch with Kyle for a long time now, I do wish he fulfills the rest of my petition:
  • Less dutch angles
  • less environment scenes
  • less psychopathic-schizophrenic skeleton apparitions
  • more CE content and better puzzles.
I'm quite close in sealing a deal of handing him a thousand bucks just to see if there's an improvement. Quite close, given his four-month development time in Chapter 10, I dodged a thousand dollar bullet.
 

itsyeboii

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That schmuck is the sole perpetrator why pin ups are exclusive to 20 CE patrons. Kyle and I had an elaborate conversation of the objective and flaws of the game where I convinced him to create pin up renders as a compensation for his incompetence and Abby butts in it should only be available to 20 pledgers. Every CE patrons tuning in our conversation spammed the channel in support of Abby; the rest where clamoring to support my petition but Kyle, our dear dairy farmer is exploiting the trend Abby started.

I haven't been in touch with Kyle for a long time now, I do wish he fulfills the rest of my petition:
  • Less dutch angles
  • less environment scenes
  • less psychopathic-schizophrenic skeleton apparitions
  • more CE content and better puzzles.
I'm quite close in sealing a deal of handing him a thousand bucks just to see if there's an improvement. Quite close, given his four-month development time in Chapter 10, I dodged a thousand dollar bullet.
Sorry but who is abby?
 
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TheFapperBoy

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Ok, so let's break this down. The last slow segment: S_Sun should be "nearly complete" by this weekend. That means it probably won't be finished until mid-week, or the next weekend. Worst case scenario, that puts us at Gumdrop starting the "fast" segments by the 20th of July. So from the 20th... he should be close to completing 2 "fast" segments by the 27th of July. Let's say for simplicity sake that he's finished 2 "fast" segments by the end of July... that still leaves 8 fast segments at the start of August. We don't know how big these "fast" segments are, but if it takes him 1 week to completed "almost two"... then needless to say, this update could very well come out Mid-Late August.
I posted that back on July 12th, and it seems that I was right on the money. Here we are on August 3rd, and there are still 8 fast segments left to go.

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He posted that today in the latest development update. This fucking update could very well seep into late September. This is insanity! There are 8 fast segments left, and you're telling me that they could very well take a week to complete EACH?! Add on top that there are still 2 fast segments that will probably take longer than that, and one of them hasn't even been started on! This guy is out of his mind!
 

Jim Webb

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I posted that back on July 12th, and it seems that I was right on the money. Here we are on August 3rd, and there are still 8 fast segments left to go.

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He posted that today in the latest development update. This fucking update could very well seep into late September. This is insanity! There are 8 fast segments left, and you're telling me that they could very well take a week to complete EACH?! Add on top that there are still 2 fast segments that will probably take longer than that, and one of them hasn't even been started on! This guy is out of his mind!

Who's crazier, the guy who's quite upfront that he is an Shyster or the people still supporting him?
 

N1K17Y

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Any news???
nope, absolutely nothing. no one posted anything for 6 months now. and definetley nothing like 3 posts above.


i like how this update was expected like when, late june-july ? and with each passing month, release is estimated for another month. now its quite possible that we look at early october release. im fucking dead XD charles manson didnt have this loyal followers
 

Darth Sidious

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I'll be honest. Abby S*****o was the main reason I stopped paying any attention to Gumdrops Discord channel. At the slightest hint of a negative view from someone she/he (no clue sorry) would swoop in and either straight up personally attack that person or rage so hard I'm surprised there wasn't nerve damage incurred. Criticism, even if constructive is barely allowed a look in. Am I right in thinking this update is still at least a couple of weeks away? Realistically going on current time per update, this could possibly be the last update this year. Honestly, saying that in August is absolutely insane.
Sounds like Abby needs the :FeelsGoodMan:
 

Darth Sidious

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How can this project not be done yet, if I were him I was already at 0.4 of the next game. If I wanted to keep earning my Patreon paycheck :test:
 

Siddington

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wait whos abby just a white knight on discord?
Pretty much yeah. On Gumdrops Discord I have seen her and others who share her views actively shut down any criticism of the game or the developer. To the point of openly mocking and insulting people for the games they play over Discord, seemingly to discredit their arguments. Not great for a legitimate critical discussion as you can imagine. Always just turns into a slagging match. Tbf to Kyle (Gumdrop) he does his best to cut through some of the bullshit and still answers some criticism. Fat lot of good it has done in the long run though.

Sounds like Abby needs the :FeelsGoodMan:
Oh I'm not touching that one ;) Think I've been critical enough for one day.
 

Snomiser

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As frustrating as it is waiting for an undate, I'm not a paying customer. I'll wait and try other games, maybe I'll get bored and give up waiting. I've definitely found others that I like more ( love & submission, milf city, time stamp, etc...) But if I was a paying customer I'd be pissed and pull my funding.
 

atlas114

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i'm not a Patreon backer of his, but I thought his $3000/month goal was hilarious, given that he's been regularly pulling $9k+ since the March? update:

"Full-time investment into development is truly a pivotal point for this project. As of now, I've been dividing the month between my work and development, giving me blurry comprehension in when I can exactly complete an installment. If this becomes my work, crystal clarity along with faster delivery will be achievable."
 
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Turret

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He posted that today in the latest development update. This fucking update could very well seep into late September. This is insanity! There are 8 fast segments left, and you're telling me that they could very well take a week to complete EACH?! Add on top that there are still 2 fast segments that will probably take longer than that, and one of them hasn't even been started on! This guy is out of his mind!
Gumdrop, I do not know what to think about him and his game anymore. His schedule is an absolute joke and an insult to any backer with some brains left. A week for a "Fast segment"? I am, for practical purposes, a newbie at Daz, but even newbies can produce batch renders faster then he tries to make the gullibles among us believe! Not to speak of full developers. There are dozens of developers, with less tools, who make an update of comparable size and quality to gumdrop´s within 1-2 months. And that regularly!
I am glad I never gave money to this lazy and lying milker. As I wrote some posts above: gumdrop is either lazy as hell or more likely in my opinion, since he cannot believe someone is dumb enough to belive his work schedule to be real, a lying weasel who has the stuff already finished, but to keep milking is pulling idiotic, but wordy BS out of his ... to calm the audience. Hopefully the backblow comes soon.
 
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