VN Ren'Py Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

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lostraven

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Nice try? It was not a stab at you, or anyone else. Didn't know it was an old page just assumed it was the one as it came up in search. Still, 1000 patreons seem few with how much attention/downloads there been. You was the one doing the "1 in 10" numbers. I didn't take it as an absolute, I just used the numbers you threw out. Since when did it become a crime to think people deserve more than what they get? doh...

Yeah advertisement sells, but most advertisers doesn't hand out their products and tell people to pay if they feel like. Basics of advertisements is to get people interested in what you sell/offer.
1.) The 1000+ is an increase from what it was before, it seems low because the game had fundamental narrative flaws and the audience picked up on that, since I have been addressing said issues and taking feedback on with the main dev (Uberpie), the game has been growing and feedback has been much more positive. 2.) Most advertisers are just selling a straight up product, not asking for monthly donations to a incomplete product. Thus the rules change. 3.) I threw out 1 to 10 as a hypothetical at best. 4.) People deserve what they work for, produce good work? You deserve good pay, produce shit? You deserve jack shit. (No I am aware this last one is not reality, just my perspective).
 

Gr8Dumper

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Well as a former GD patron (I got out when it started to smell almost a year ago now - right decision :) ), I can say that it looks like the patrons slowly but surely are dwindling away from GD. Maybe not as steep enough decline as he deserves, but still a very steady downwards trend the last 6 months. In this pace he will get to 0 in about a year. At some point in this decline, he will start to through some bones, like a short comic (seen that scamming technique before with other scam artists = Impure), just to slow the decline, but then back to words of progress to comfort the "flock".

In some perverted way we should give GD drop credit for how well he has played the scam, using all techniques to suck out max from the market.
It is a good study in both psychology and economics, maximizing the area under the graph (=$) with minimum effort (cost) = profit.
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Darth Bane

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Joshua Tree gives some really sound advice every now and then. ie I'm paraphrasing: "Why are you all wasting your time and effort complaining about Gumdrops? There are much better things you can do with your time and energy.
Great advice! Sound advice!
Unfortunately, he doesn't practice what he preaches, and spends just as much, if not more, time and energy on this very thread being a contrarian!
He can say he doesn't have a vested interest in doing that, but in my opinion he does.
This is no longer a Dual-Family thread!
This is a Dual-Family-Meme thread!
Enjoy the memes! Live for the memes! Be the meme!
 

Joshua Tree

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1.) The 1000+ is an increase from what it was before, it seems low because the game had fundamental narrative flaws and the audience picked up on that, since I have been addressing said issues and taking feedback on with the main dev (Uberpie), the game has been growing and feedback has been much more positive. 2.) Most advertisers are just selling a straight up product, not asking for monthly donations to a incomplete product. Thus the rules change. 3.) I threw out 1 to 10 as a hypothetical at best. 4.) People deserve what they work for, produce good work? You deserve good pay, produce shit? You deserve jack shit. (No I am aware this last one is not reality, just my perspective).
Well, if you look at "early access" games on steam. You see the ones with active devs and who communicate with the players. They usually have good traction with their games, even though it's unfinished product and early access. With early access they are asking for money for a unfinished product upfront and not on a monthly "support" basis. (Doesn't keep their games from getting pirated either though). Maybe you should try get Taffy Tales on steam, diversity in exposure not a bad thing. They do allow other adult games there such as "House Party", so why not. Could end up get more of what you deserve -)
 

lostraven

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Maybe you should try get Taffy Tales on steam, diversity in exposure not a bad thing. They do allow other adult games there such as "House Party", so why not. Could end up get more of what you deserve -)
It's not out the question but from what I can tell Steam have been quite vocal about their distaste for adult games...AND most of the adult games I'm told do usually need to be censored. Which is a shame but y'know, it's their policy.
 

Joshua Tree

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It's not out the question but from what I can tell Steam have been quite vocal about their distaste for adult games...AND most of the adult games I'm told do usually need to be censored. Which is a shame but y'know, it's their policy.
House party have their "explicit" patch linked on the store page under free download. Also, steam not been so vocal about their distaste about adult games. More the likes of EPIC Games been accusing Steam of pushing porn. Although the whole "rape play" bullshit did probably do some damage. If you browse their NSFW stuff, you find a lot of VN's, hentai, and other stuff. I guess it come down to how you present your game more than anything.
 

lostraven

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House party have their "explicit" patch linked on the store page under free download. Also, steam not been so vocal about their distaste about adult games. More the likes of EPIC Games been accusing Steam of pushing porn. Although the whole "rape play" bullshit did probably do some damage. If you browse their NSFW stuff, you find a lot of VN's, hentai, and other stuff. I guess it come down to how you present your game more than anything.
I'll look into it. Though if we put it on there it'll probably be after we release at least one of the MEGA patches planned.
 

Joshua Tree

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For someone claiming to put me on ignore, satoshi36 seems mighty obsessed with me and attention seeking. Must be my number one fan :p

In regard of wasted time and effort, how much headway have your time and effort made towards make any changes what so ever in regard of GD, lack of new release and so forth? Really? Yeah, I would say that's wasted...
 

Anas Khan

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For someone claiming to put me on ignore, satoshi36 seems mighty obsessed with me and attention seeking. Must be my number one fan :p

In regard of wasted time and effort, how much headway have your time and effort made towards make any changes what so ever in regard of GD, lack of new release and so forth? Really? Yeah, I would say that's wasted...
I wonder how much headway has your effort made into making us believe that GD is a legit developer. Seriously even a slime without a brain would bash the shit out of a developer that is incapable of developing for over an year. But he has you to thank for..his favourite SLU*T.

To quote you to yourself, what is exactly your point of doing this ? do you think you can change our opinion of him ? that he is not scamming and definitely not ripping off his patreons ? Do you think your efforts to show how every other developer is just like GD even matter here? Is your purpose of life just to protect and honor him ? What were the vows you took?

you know what is funny ? The only reason we even come here to comment is to trash on him because that's what he deserves after all the bullshittery. What's pathetic is seeing you on every page reply to every one cussing him out. That is utterly pathetic. BTW we are not here to make any kind of headway, we are here to talk and trash and if thats a problem with you ? see yourself the fu*ck out. But i guess thats impossible cuz you are too invested into protecting any and every comment made against him.

How utterly pathetic is your life to be devoted to such a pile of crap ?
 

Joshua Tree

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I wonder how much headway has your effort made into making us believe that GD is a legit developer. Seriously even a slime without a brain would bash the shit out of a developer that is incapable of developing for over an year. But he has you to thank for..his favourite SLU*T.

To quote you to yourself, what is exactly your point of doing this ? do you think you can change our opinion of him ? that he is not scamming and definitely not ripping off his patreons ? Do you think your efforts to show how every other developer is just like GD even matter here? Is your purpose of life just to protect and honor him ? What were the vows you took?

you know what is funny ? The only reason we even come here to comment is to trash on him because that's what he deserves after all the bullshittery. What's pathetic is seeing you on every page reply to every one cussing him out. That is utterly pathetic. BTW we are not here to make any kind of headway, we are here to talk and trash and if thats a problem with you ? see yourself the fu*ck out. But i guess thats impossible cuz you are too invested into protecting any and every comment made against him.

How utterly pathetic is your life to be devoted to such a pile of crap ?
And exactly what does come here and trash on him change anything at all? In this confined space you are preaching to the choir. If you want to talk trash, please, do, but the only ones you upset with that is the mods if any. Replying to some angry rant serve no purpose. Commenting on accusations of criminal acts, money laundering and other insane claims, now that is something else.

If being rude and name calling, make you feel better about yourself. Please do, but end of the day you only make yourself look bad.
 
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