VN Ren'Py Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

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MrManager

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The writing of most of those is absolute garbage, the MC in Become a Rockstar is a narcissist and potentially a sociopath, Depraved Wakening is wish fulfillment fantasy with a hilariously bad crime drama thrown in (albeit with amazing renders, I still do love this game but the writing sucked), Acting Lessons has a completely over the top ending that did not at all fit the theme of the game (plus I hate the black guy everyone else loved), dunno what Lexi is, Ptolemy is mediocre both in terms of writing and renders, High Life is so boring I could barely get anywhere, "Where the Heart Is" is yet more wish fulfillment fantasy where everyone desperately wants your dick and Our Fate is predatory and creepy.

TBH this game isn't particularly good either, but it's slightly less garbage writing than most out there. The standards in the porn game scene are so fucking low because its mostly guys that couldnt get a job in a big studio making them in the first place. This isn't the cream of the crop, this is the dregs.

The most impressive writing is probably for Trials in Tainted space in terms of the quality of the work and how believable (and consistent) the characters are. But that game is most certainly not for everyone.
 

ZagorTeNay

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The writing of most of those is absolute garbage, the MC in Become a Rockstar is a narcissist and potentially a sociopath, Depraved Wakening is wish fulfillment fantasy with a hilariously bad crime drama thrown in (albeit with amazing renders, I still do love this game but the writing sucked), Acting Lessons has a completely over the top ending that did not at all fit the theme of the game (plus I hate the black guy everyone else loved), dunno what Lexi is, Ptolemy is mediocre both in terms of writing and renders, High Life is so boring I could barely get anywhere, "Where the Heart Is" is yet more wish fulfillment fantasy where everyone desperately wants your dick and Our Fate is predatory and creepy.

TBH this game isn't particularly good either, but it's slightly less garbage writing than most out there. The standards in the porn game scene are so fucking low because its mostly guys that couldnt get a job in a big studio making them in the first place. This isn't the cream of the crop, this is the dregs.

The most impressive writing is probably for Trials in Tainted space in terms of the quality of the work and how believable (and consistent) the characters are. But that game is most certainly not for everyone.
Eh? Is that you, Gummy? Where have you been all this time?!
( Good to see our boyo Joshua finally liking something. The two of you are as thick as Daughter/Daddy from this game :p)
 

Joshua Tree

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Eh? Is that you, Gummy? Where have you been all this time?!
( Good to see our boyo Joshua finally liking something. The two of you are as thick as Daughter/Daddy from this game :p)
So agreeing on the fact most writing in adult games suck is a terrible crime? oh well. Seeing someone else slag of someone and get a ton of likes for doing it, should I question how far up each other butts they are for doing it? idk..
 

LazyName

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While i don't think its unfair to point out that the bar is pretty low when it comes to writing/ story telling I do think we should temper our expectations at least for the time being. If someone told me that a lot of the content in the porn genre was about wish fufillment my response would be "no shit"the games that are designed to help people masturbate are a bit masturbatory. Now that erotic games are becoming notably more profitable more people of varying talents will throw their hat in the ring and make content that caters to more niche tastes; I really think that quality in these types of games are only going to go up.
 

Joshua Tree

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While i don't think its unfair to point out that the bar is pretty low when it comes to writing/ story telling I do think we should temper our expectations at least for the time being. If someone told me that a lot of the content in the porn genre was about wish fufillment my response would be "no shit"the games that are designed to help people masturbate are a bit masturbatory. Now that erotic games are becoming notably more profitable more people of varying talents will throw their hat in the ring and make content that caters to more niche tastes; I really think that quality in these types of games are only going to go up.
Could also mean saturating of the genre though. Look at the "porn industry" else. With internet and a webcam, everyone could become an porn star. The market exploded and became so watered down. Adult movies with a plot, no matter how cheesy, is a rarity today. Nowadays "no story/plot" is needed, it's all about the money shot.

If you play games to fap to, all glory to you. But tbh must be better visual aids out there to help you along for that.
 
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LazyName

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Could also mean saturating of the genre though. Look at the "porn industry" else. With internet and a webcam, everyone could become an porn star. The market exploded and became so watered down. Adult movies with a plot, no matter how cheesy, is a rarity today. Nowadays "no story/plot" is needed, it's all about the money shot.

If you play games to fap to, all glory to you. But tbh must be better visual aids out there to help you along for that.
When it comes to content there is always going to be saturation whether it be movies, books, games, music the vast majority of released content is going to be kinda shitty. The thing is judging the entire landscape of available content based on whats playing on the radio or the front page of pornhub is pretty short sighted. There is plenty of higher production erotic content thats ready to be viewed right this moment far more than what was available in the past.
 

Joshua Tree

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When it comes to content there is always going to be saturation whether it be movies, books, games, music the vast majority of released content is going to be kinda shitty. The thing is judging the entire landscape of available content based on whats playing on the radio or the front page of pornhub is pretty short sighted. There is plenty of higher production erotic content thats ready to be viewed right this moment far more than what was available in the past.
Define "higher production erotic content" then, because imho that is far between these days.
 

LazyName

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Higher production will probably mean different things to different people whether it be HD camera quality to shake up the monotony of the amateur videos or the ones where they try to tell a story with a script that are usually between 30-60 minutes. I imagine though you're talking about the old school style of 2+ hour long movies those are definitely out of style today but personally i find the more concise story telling to be more compelling.
 

Joshua Tree

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Higher production will probably mean different things to different people whether it be HD camera quality to shake up the monotony of the amateur videos or the ones where they try to tell a story with a script that are usually between 30-60 minutes. I imagine though you're talking about the old school style of 2+ hour long movies those are definitely out of style today but personally i find the more concise story telling to be more compelling.
Actually I wasn't talking about 2+ hour long movies. But something with an actual script and story no matter how cheesy it was. Image quality, movie techniques etc scale with tech progress else. The "feature film" variant of adult movies is more or less gone, because it doesn't pay off to make them, not because they don't want to make them. Enough documentaries about the industry that touched on this. Internet made everyone who wanted a "porn star", and why buy an adult movie when you can download one for free. You kind of ended with a industry that consumed itself.
 

LazyName

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I don't know i look at the boom in erotic fiction from online fan fictions to 50 shades of grey there is definitely a demand for more story telling to be mixed with sexual content. I think with the barrier to entry for making these games being so dang low it offers an oppurtunity for the hobby writer to coble together something that can be erotic in both story telling and visuals. a lot these games are being made by teams of 1 working in their free time as more money flows into this genre more talented people will feel like its worth their time to actually produce something. Maybe i'm just an optimist but I see this as foundation for a larger market that will have a lot of shit releases but also enable a lot of people to actually make something they're passionate about.
 

Joshua Tree

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I don't know i look at the boom in erotic fiction from online fan fictions to 50 shades of grey there is definitely a demand for more story telling to be mixed with sexual content. I think with the barrier to entry for making these games being so dang low it offers an oppurtunity for the hobby writer to coble together something that can be erotic in both story telling and visuals. a lot these games are being made by teams of 1 working in their free time as more money flows into this genre more talented people will feel like its worth their time to actually produce something. Maybe i'm just an optimist but I see this as foundation for a larger market that will have a lot of shit releases but also enable a lot of people to actually make something they're passionate about.
Demand, maybe, enough people willing to actually spend on it? That is another tale. Also quite a whole different cost from make like an adult feature movie. The last adult movie that probably had any budget of any size at all, was that "Pirates XXX" from 2005, and tbh particular good it was not.
 

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"In this decision-oriented game, you can choose one of two characters to play as and experience the same story from different perspectives. With the choices made in these dual campaigns being completely up to you, make or break the relationships with those you hold dear!
So far I've created 20 story chapters, split evenly between the two characters respectively. Each presents a series of conflicts for the characters to overcome, one way or another! Take a look..."

To finish playing must take another 10 years. (Oh god)
Is a game that consumes a very long life time.
 
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The writing of most of those is absolute garbage, the MC in Become a Rockstar is a narcissist and potentially a sociopath, Depraved Wakening is wish fulfillment fantasy with a hilariously bad crime drama thrown in (albeit with amazing renders, I still do love this game but the writing sucked), Acting Lessons has a completely over the top ending that did not at all fit the theme of the game (plus I hate the black guy everyone else loved), dunno what Lexi is, Ptolemy is mediocre both in terms of writing and renders, High Life is so boring I could barely get anywhere, "Where the Heart Is" is yet more wish fulfillment fantasy where everyone desperately wants your dick and Our Fate is predatory and creepy.

TBH this game isn't particularly good either, but it's slightly less garbage writing than most out there. The standards in the porn game scene are so fucking low because its mostly guys that couldnt get a job in a big studio making them in the first place. This isn't the cream of the crop, this is the dregs.

The most impressive writing is probably for Trials in Tainted space in terms of the quality of the work and how believable (and consistent) the characters are. But that game is most certainly not for everyone.
This game has no plot whatsoever, it's a bad melodrama. Read my review for the lots of issues it has. That you somehow think this makes it better than games that at least try to have a plot is dishonest. As an example of how ridiculously bad this game is, consider the fact that the MC barely leaves the house, he behaves like an elementary school child. The bad writing is apparent in every aspect (over the top cheesy drama != good writing). He can't compose scenes either (hence zoomed in shots and shitty angles), it's clear he writes on top of scenes and doesn't plan ahead.

Out Fate blows this game out of the water in terms of writing. You have a wide range of characters with varying motivations, not the same angsty teen in every character (including the supposedly adult father, and gumdrop, I refuse to believe an adult can non-ironically think this is good writing). Also the characters in that game have a life. Here everyone is grieving for no apparent reason, in circular fashion, ad nauseam. That's why gumdrop can't introduce non-emo characters into the story, because the contrast would make the already bad writing look even worse. He wrote himself into a corner with the over the top purposeless melodrama.

Something tells me you are one of those who still think this scammer is honest, or at least thought so in the past year. In any case, it won't matter. I predict the scam will be over within a year: either because he never releases anything (which I believe is the case), or because whatever he releases not only would expose him as a scammer, but it would also further expose how bad the writing is as he is forced to write scenes in new environments (i.e. not the same angsty teen with no life grieving on his/her bed).
 

Joshua Tree

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@WinterW tbh, I don't think "Our Fate" got that good a story. Imho, it got to many characters in the story. And some of them quite bad as well. Then I would rather look at the story/writing in "Haley's Story".
 

J II D

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Like somebody else said a couple weeks ago.

Very good chance that GumDrop is just using this game as a disguise and is actually doing some private requests for people.(Those requests that aren't really allowed on patreon ; )).
And those people use Patreon to pay him for those requests.

Of course this is pure speculation,
But at this stage what is more likely.

-The Above
-707 people that are so ignorant, gullible and insane that after more than a year they still believe him.

I don't believe the second, or rather... I refuse to believe that there are 707 people like that.....
So for me the first makes way more sense.
 

J II D

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You remind me of the modern media and far left. So salty that you make conspiracy theories that are obviously wrong.
I want to thank you : ).
This is the first time in my adult life that somebody referred to me as being "left" ....
Kinda weird actually after being called Right and Extreme Right almost all my adult life.

Again thanks.... Had me chuckle a little bit ; )

As far as what i said in that message.
You can think about it what you want, i honestly don't care about it.
And if you want to keep being gullible, ignorant and insane and keep pledging to him...Good for you ; )
It's your own choice to throw your money away, but i stopped believing in fairy tales a long time ago.

For me personally people like GumDrop is everything what's wrong with the patreon system.
But is that entirely Gumdrop's fault.....No, it's the fault of those 707 people that still believe in fairy tales.

As far as the Salty comment,
Not really, not anymore at least.
At this point it's just like watching a Reality show.
You know what's going to happen, you know the people involved are idiots....But you just want to watch the stupidity unfold.

Except his patrons, nobody knows what he is doing.
What I don't get is:
He is still posting news very frequently, without releasing anything for the game. So I don't know what he is doing, but he clearly is doing something...but at this point its very hard to believe that it has anything to do with this game.
And yes, how can 707 people be so ignorant, I can't believe it as well.
But who knows(?), because: Two Things Are Infinite: the Universe and Human Stupidity
I said a couple weeks ago that right now at this stage "if he worked on something" that it's probably fear that's holding him back right now.
Because we all know that "if he worked on something" it's not going to be anywhere near the amount of content that justifies this long period of time.
Human nature to expect when somebody works on something for around 15 months that you get around 15 months worth of content, so when he drops the update and it turns out to be a update that he used to make in 3 months(and i have a feeling it will be something like that)Well, i believe that a lot of those fanboys and girls will finally wake up.
But all that would mean that he actually worked on the game, and everybody with a little bit of common sense on this site is not really sure about that at all ; )

Two Things Are Infinite: the Universe and Human Stupidity
I believe that if the universe will come to an end tomorrow, and we all wake up with burning skies and skies collapsing.
There still will be someone on this thread who will say " Gumdrop said on Discord that the Universe doesn't come to and end, so i believe that" while the stars are exploding in the sky..:LOL::p
 
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