VN Ren'Py Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

[· NILA ·]

Guys help me out. Let's end this scammer's career!
Use the link to submit a report to the patreon. If we will not do something, this dev will definitely continue fooling people!

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[blackmagic616]

Guys help me out. Let's end this scammer's career!
Use the link to submit a report to the patreon. If we will not do something, this dev will definitely continue fooling people!

Do you know there is a greater chance that you will be banned than his account will be suspended? Patreon makes it clear: your dissatisfaction is not a reason for complaint.
We already had people here who gave him negative reviews on Steam. Guess what happened. Yes, they have been banned.
If you want, run your own crusade, but don't expose others, at least without warning them of potential consequences.
Ideally, this thread should be suspended until something actually appears. Of course, information about the current situation would be appreciated (the abandon tag says literally nothing), but I have already mentioned it in my another comment.

 

[Watcher X]

Guys help me out. Let's end this scammer's career!
Use the link to submit a report to the patreon. If we will not do something, this dev will definitely continue fooling people!

As much as GD's scam disgusts me, he isn't breaking any laws or Patreon terms of service. It's up to the remaining fools who still pay this fraudster every month to finally wake up and cancel their subscriptions.

 

[· NILA ·]

Do you know there is a greater chance that you will be banned than his account will be suspended? Patreon makes it clear: your dissatisfaction is not a reason for complaint.
We already had people here who gave him negative reviews on Steam. Guess what happened. Yes, they have been banned.
If you want, run your own crusade, but don't expose others, at least without warning them of potential consequences.
Ideally, this thread should be suspended until something actually appears. Of course, information about the current situation would be appreciated (the abandon tag says literally nothing), but I have already mentioned it in my another comment.

Worth a shot! If that means stopping this scumbag from fooling incoming patreons and people. And one more thing, this is not dissatisfaction talking, it's compassion towards the others and dishonesty towards your patreons. And before you say anything I did not lend a single cent to this guy. Yeah, we could definitely let the fooled patreons continue fooling themselves but what good does it yield? Definitely it's none of my business or your business if these people chose to be fooled, but are we really okay about the fact that this scammer is continuing something when we know we can do atleast a simple move to stop this once and for all!?

It's like you're all here and all, blabbering about this scum's strategic nonsense, but in reality, it does not help at all. The truth is his crusade will continue fooling other people and new patreons because instead of doing something people are ranting without doing nothing. No wonder people come back here just to complain again and again!

 

[· NILA ·]

As much as GD's scam disgusts me, he isn't breaking any laws or Patreon terms of service. It's up to the remaining fools who still pay this fraudster every month to finally wake up and cancel their subscriptions.

Seriously!? Is being superficially dishonest towards your audience doesn't break anything?

 

[Watcher X]

Seriously!? Is being superficially dishonest towards your audience doesn't break anything?

There are games out there like Star Citizen, who have literally scammed millions of dollars through their crowd funding, that make Gumdrop look like a saint in comparison. Patreon are not beholden to ensure developers make good on their promises, and they are making good money off Gumdrop as well so why would they.

It sucks, but there is little to be done when stupidity overrides good sense with regards to Gumdrop's patrons. All we can hope is that when sites like this one mark it abandoned, people finally wake up and cancel.

 

[blackmagic616]

Worth a shot! If that means stopping this scumbag from fooling incoming patreons and people.

Did negative Steam reviews stop him?
Did the warning on this forum stop him?
Did the On Hold tag on this forum stop him?
Did the Abandoned tag on this forum stop him?
Did comments on Patreon stop him?
Did comments on Discord stop him?
What makes you think that you will succeed?

Don't treat him like an idiot, because this show that you are more naive than his patrons.

And one more thing, this is not dissatisfaction talking, it's compassion towards the others and dishonesty towards your patreons.

As I said, Patreon makes it clear:

Lastly, we understand that once in a while, you may come across content on Patreon that you don’t like or that you disagree with, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that the user is violating our guidelines and should be reported. For example, if you are unhappy with the quality of what a creator has produced or the direction their new work is taking, please contact them to discuss the issue via messages.

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And before you say anything I did not lend a single cent to this guy.

And it makes you even less reliable.

Yeah, we could definitely let the fooled patreons continue fooling themselves but what good does it yield? Definitely it's none of my business or your business if these people chose to be fooled, but are we really okay about the fact that this scammer is continuing something when we know we can do atleast a simple move to stop this once and for all!?

You certainly can't stop him in such a childish way.

It's like you're all here and all, blabbering about this scum's strategic nonsense, but in reality, it does not help at all. The truth is his crusade will continue fooling other people and new patreons because instead of doing something people are ranting without doing nothing. No wonder people come back here just to complain again and again!

Sometimes doing nothing is better than doing something stupid.

 

[blackmagic616]

Seriously!? Is being superficially dishonest towards your audience doesn't break anything?

Is it not authentic?
Is it harmful?
Is it offensive?
Does it violate copyright?
No? So it doesn't break any rules. Deal with it. I understood you may not like it, but there is nothing you can do about it.

 

[jonrage39]

I don't support snitching, and I think it sets a bad precedent, but has anybody tried reporting him to patreon? Pointing out that he violates their content restrictions is a much more likely way to shut him down than crying that he hasn't delivered an update.

While there really isn't any mother/son, or father/daughter incest yet, the MC does rape his aunt and cousin. Aunt and cousin are still technically incest and I'm pretty sure rape is banned by patreon too.

 

[blackmagic616]

I don't support snitching, and I think it sets a bad precedent, but has anybody tried reporting him to patreon? Pointing out that he violates their content restrictions is a much more likely way to shut him down than crying that he hasn't delivered an update.

While there really isn't any mother/son, or father/daughter incest yet, the MC does rape his aunt and cousin.

It wasn't the other way around? Karen trying to seduce us?
I haven't played it in a long time (version ~0.6x or ~.7x, before going to our sister-in-law/aunt), but isn't there censorship or at least option to name relationships? If I good remember, he introduced something like that. Correct me if I am wrong.

Aunt and cousin are still technically incest and I'm pretty sure rape is banned by patreon too.

Not really. And there were even worse things in the Game of Thrones.
Anyway, if Steam is cool with this, Patreon won't take it down.

 

[jonrage39]

It's been 2 years since I played it, but I think the relationship definitions are only for the immediate family, I don't remember defining aunt and cousin. And he definitely rapes his aunt, the cousin blowjob may be a grey area, not rape, but definitely rapey.

Also, just because GoT had more explicit incest doesn't mean patreon allows it. School, love and friends was all aunt and cousin incest before patreon made him change it. I'm pretty sure there are other examples of patreon making games change aunt/cousin incest too.

 

[fotogaik]

I don't support snitching, and I think it sets a bad precedent, but has anybody tried reporting him to patreon? Pointing out that he violates their content restrictions is a much more likely way to shut him down than crying that he hasn't delivered an update.

His patreon page was suspended at least twice over this (I think it could have been three times with a very short break between two blocks). He worked it out with patreon and made the recommended corrections in his game. Incest content is only available with a patch.

While there really isn't any mother/son, or father/daughter incest yet, the MC does rape his aunt and cousin. Aunt and cousin are still technically incest and I'm pretty sure rape is banned by patreon too.

Yeah. Good luck. Report him. Patreon won't do anything because they already settled this matter with gumdrop. You will more than likely be banned by patreon for harassing a creator with baseless accusations.

 

[jonrage39]

Fair enough, I wasn't sure if the aunt stuff was added after the review or not.

I'm not reporting him, I was just pointing out to the dude that wanted to complain about GD for not releasing updates, that actual violations would be more likely to have an effect. But I guess if he's already addressed the incest and rape stuff, then it isn't worth it.

 

[blackmagic616]

Yeah. Good luck. Report him. Patreon won't do anything because they already settled this matter with gumdrop. You will more than likely be banned by patreon for harassing a creator with baseless accusations.

Finally, the someone with common sense!

 

[Avaron1974]

Seriously!? Is being superficially dishonest towards your audience doesn't break anything?

Patreon are a business, they are not there to babysit people regarding their own finances.

Patreon make money off those donations, they aren't likely to lose themselves money.

If people feel like they are being scammed they are able to cancel their own payments. Personal responsibility.

 

[fotogaik]

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HAHAHAHAHA. Gumdrop posted this schedule TWO DAYS AGO and listed POSTS he was supposed to make in the last 48 hours. Just plain posts with further announcements. Nothing big expected. Just a couple of lies about more deadlines he's going to miss. And he still didn't keep to this schedule.
Says a lot about his commitment.

 

[kira07]

The only explanation that i can find at this point is that he made many patreon accounts and donating to himself

I mean, wtf?

 

[Solreal]

i didnt play this game for a year,... i mean its a ok visual novel and all, but theres barely any sex and if you start dads story first, the storyline is downright fucking depressing, to me anyway...if a story on how divorce effects families gets you off i geuss you found your niche but jesus the feels to porn ratio is abysmal, i came to be a disgusting pervert and fap to incest. not get depressed

This. This VN is just a family depression simulator.

 

[Deleted member 270639]

so when is the new release date?

 

[Siddington]

I think if we can agree on anything here, it's that the amount of effort you two have spent arguing recently, is completely wasted on this perpetually delayed game, from a shambolic and possibly deceitful developer.