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An model with some textures on it?
That has to be from a scene already in the game.
That has to be from a scene already in the game.
if it was there its not there anymore, there is talk of someone being blocked but that was one user blocking another, not Kyle blocking anyone.
Kyle and Abby do like cleaning up any criticism so that it can no longer be seen
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His Discord moderator, CommandantAbby. Her choice of title and white-knighting material should tell you everything you need to know about her
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Abbydemon I think it is called, moderator and main apologist for the game.
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When I was on their Discord it was all Abby, no idea who this Tenlogos person is.
Hey i remember that guy. He tried to do insult on me. Poor guy didn't knew that i don't care if you insult me. Nailed him back then and earned myself ban. Good time.
Oh trust me Tenlogos is real. I think i asked him once how can he still defend Kyle while 2+ years single update is developed, while other devs usualy deliever one update in 1 or 2 month, while also breaking several self imposed deadlines. Ofcoourse i got none answer but mainly apologetic excuse and lies. I think that you can get faster answer from monkey then priest Tenlogos.
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Gumdrop deleted the comment about previews that are being recycled. Its a shame tho.
That is so messed up. Devs like that need to be held accountable somehow, there's more and more of them because they keep getting away with it
The apologist are the WORST. It's never clear whether they are friends/collaborators with the devs or just really really gullible people
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they don't since allegedly patreon monitors it's customers but sadly it's just harassing devs which have just a bit of incest content in game.
also forums like f95 spread the word.
Yeah Patreon needs to be update only not monthly. Wtf is a subscription for game developers? It makes no sense.
That would require consistent updates to keep revenue flowing. Like how Love Joint works.
What about developers who clearly state they will release every 4-5 months, but need money to stay afloat? If Patreon starts policing updates, you'll end up with a situation where a developer is forced to release a mediocre update every month just to avoid getting locked out.
And if Patreon imposed additional constraints on what constitutes an update and what doesn't, you'll get Patreon mods reviewing content against change logs which would take lots and lots of time and would increase fees for that category.
And it's only if developers are either forced into that category or choose it themselves. But pure patronage still exists, as in money for nothing, where the creator is under no obligation to provide anything and you just pay because they're so awesome (yes, it's a thing). Since this category would require no policing at all because it's clearly voluntary, it would also carry lower fees. All game developers would immediately switch to it.
And if not, there are other platforms that will happily take you as a customer.
And if Patreon imposed additional constraints on what constitutes an update and what doesn't, you'll get Patreon mods reviewing content against change logs which would take lots and lots of time and would increase fees for that category.
And it's only if developers are either forced into that category or choose it themselves. But pure patronage still exists, as in money for nothing, where the creator is under no obligation to provide anything and you just pay because they're so awesome (yes, it's a thing). Since this category would require no policing at all because it's clearly voluntary, it would also carry lower fees. All game developers would immediately switch to it.
And if not, there are other platforms that will happily take you as a customer.
Exactly. Also people forget Patreon is not a subscription service, it's a patronage service as implied by the name. The model is based on traditional artist patronage where one would pay for the living expenses of an artist and would often not see any of the output until they came up with a final product.
It's just that the culture around indie adult game development is much different than other types of artistic output because amateurism, the long development cycles, and low confidence lend themselves to iterative output: i.e., monthly releases.
But there are no hard and fast rules, and enforcing any--even for a small sector of creators--would not only change the mission of Patreon, but incur additional costs/scrutiny on their part, which they have no incentive whatsoever to do.
These aren't rich benefactors patronizing high art. It's average consumers funding a video game project. They already pay vastly above AAA titles as it is. I'm just saying Patreon should prevent milking and scamming.
And I'm saying they have 0 incentive to do so, it's not in their business model, and modifying their model for a small sector of creators at no profit with no clear ethical/legal obligation to do so is exactly the sort of thing businesses do not do ever.
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yea they get monies from devs so if dev is successful on milking then patreon is happy and will ignore reports. you won't kill cow which produces milk.