VN Ren'Py Abandoned Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

[Zellio]

He is teasing a big announcement for October 30th.

He's going to announce the next date for the next delay

 

[ImmortalNight]

View attachment 869829 just found this on gamecore don't know if it the same dev but it look like its gone html

Is that scene even in the game? Maybe that's the announcement. HTML 5 version.

 

[yoyomistro]

First of all, I DID NOT tell you what you do. I asked and I wrote "please".

Secondly, this thread is advertising a scam, therefore it should be either locked or deleted.

Any game's thread HERE on F95 is itself an advert.

That's what I think.

That's not how this site works. All games get exactly one thread, which is never deleted unless the game violates the loli rule and there's no option to remove it. That thread is never locked/moved/etc. The Abandoned tag is warning enough, if people can't be asked to familiarize themselves with site functionality that's on them.

 

[MykeRosy]

MykeRosy Lol seems like your list hit a nerve on Discord. The list is 100% on point.

Well its a BULLS-EYE. I heard tenlogos is crying

 

[ImmortalNight]

Well its a BULLS-EYE. I heard tenlogos is crying

OMG he is whining so hard. What an obnoxious twat.

 

[cxx]

WOW, NICE DEMO, SEE YOU IN 4, 5 YEARS IF GAME WILL EVER BE FINISHED.

won't be.

 

[Zellio]

What about developers who clearly state they will release every 4-5 months, but need money to stay afloat? If Patreon starts policing updates, you'll end up with a situation where a developer is forced to release a mediocre update every month just to avoid getting locked out.
And if Patreon imposed additional constraints on what constitutes an update and what doesn't, you'll get Patreon mods reviewing content against change logs which would take lots and lots of time and would increase fees for that category.

And it's only if developers are either forced into that category or choose it themselves. But pure patronage still exists, as in money for nothing, where the creator is under no obligation to provide anything and you just pay because they're so awesome (yes, it's a thing). Since this category would require no policing at all because it's clearly voluntary, it would also carry lower fees. All game developers would immediately switch to it.

And if not, there are other platforms that will happily take you as a customer.

How about this: Patreon only polices when devs set update dates and misses at least 1-3 (In a row?)

You can keep your patreon pages that are made just to get donations, while going after devs who obviously lie

 

[cxx]

How about this: Patreon only polices when devs set update dates and misses at least 1-3 (In a row?)

You can keep your patreon pages that are made just to get donations, while going after devs who obviously lie

then they wouldn't set any specific release dates.

 

[xXwankerXx]

still 600+ low IQ followers who probably pay 1$ - 5$ per month .

Nah, make it 5$ - 10$, check

You must be registered to see the links

, the scammer still makes 5k/month, and math approves that. If u think that's a nice income, just look at how much ICSTOR makes.

Man, some ppl are... breathtaking. Personally, I don't give a shit about how much some smart dudes pay for a scam, problem is, others will do the same, and if the patrons don't care about their money, neither does Patreon, so you can't stop the milkers from milking the supporters and stop developing their games.

If this shit keeps up, and nobody sanctions this kinda behavior, we'll lose all the major devs or at least all the promising games that pop up here on f95, that's what some of these patrons don't understand. If a scammer like Scamdrop doesn't release a damn update in 1y, he will never finish the damn game, stop paying for it. He'll probably release 1 or 2 updates if he loses most of his patrons.

 

[fotogaik]

Nah, make it 5$ - 10$, check

You must be registered to see the links

, the scammer still makes 5k/month, and math approves that. If u think that's a nice income, just look at how much ICSTOR makes.

Unfortunately, it's closer to $6k-$6.5k. Graphtreon underestimates unknown income by a large margin for creators who have a high proportion of high pledge patrons.

He'll probably release 1 or 2 updates if he loses most of his patrons.

We don't know that. He might just as well decide, "ah, fuck it, nobody cares about the game, I'm off the hook." Or it might not have any effect on him whatsoever. If he doesn't want to release anything, he won't release anything.

 

[ImmortalNight]

Unfortunately, it's closer to $6k-$6.5k. Graphtreon underestimates unknown income by a large margin for creators who have a high proportion of high pledge patrons.


We don't know that. He might just as well decide, "ah, fuck it, nobody cares about the game, I'm off the hook." Or it might not have any effect on him whatsoever. If he doesn't want to release anything, he won't release anything.

It's far more likely we see an update someday if he's not incentivized to keep doing nothing.

He's also getting sales from Steam and wherever else he's selling it.

 

[shiny-kuki]

Noooooooo. I got tricked into playing this. I know it says Abandoned but why does it says 0.98? There is no way this is in a 0.98 state. More like 0.33.

I thought it was pretty much done except the ending or something.

Now I ended up playing something that ends halfway and won't be finished. Awful. Please remove the 0.98 from the title, it's misleading. Put Part 1 of 3 instead

P.S. Someone get a hold of the character models and finish the game

 

[fotogaik]

It's far more likely we see an update someday if he's not incentivized to keep doing nothing.

Nothing is likely. It's the guy who has literally zero incentive or reason to put out release dates, and yet he did and broke them every time.

He's also getting sales from Steam and wherever else he's selling it.

I know that this opinion is pretty unpopular, but:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It's his legal right to sell his game anywhere he sees fit. Patreon is clear that any promises made by the creator are not binding. Steam doesn't offer any protection from dev promises made in bad faith. And on his site he's free to set whatever rules he wants.

I can totally understand somebody who found his game, played it, liked it and paid money to get the latest version. No point discussing anyone's tastes and whether this game is worth the money you're paying for it (5 or 20 bucks depending on the version).

Ignoring Steam and Gumdrop's site for a moment, and focusing on Patreon only, what I cannot understand is how that same new patron, after looking around and finding out that:
• there's no progress for 2.5 years;
• Gumdrop set deadlines, broke them and made excuses every time;
• anyone who pledged money between Part IX and Part X release is going to get Part X without extra charges:
After finding out all of that still decides to support him for more than just one pledge.

Noooooooo. I got tricked into playing this. I know it says Abandoned but why does it says 0.98? There is no way this is in a 0.98 state. More like 0.33.

If anything, 0.3. The game is supposed to be divided into three Acts, ten Parts each. So if Part X ever gets released, the game then becomes version 0.3333...

P.S. Someone get a hold of the character models and finish the game

Someone did and made stuff that everyone's after, which are scenes of the characters in sexual situations. Oh, and the textures are higher quality, too, so it's better than whatever Gumdrop has to offer.

 

[ImmortalNight]

Nothing is likely. It's the guy who has literally zero incentive or reason to put out release dates, and yet he did and broke them every time.

I know that this opinion is pretty unpopular, but:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It's his legal right to sell his game anywhere he sees fit. Patreon is clear that any promises made by the creator are not binding. Steam doesn't offer any protection from dev promises made in bad faith. And on his site he's free to set whatever rules he wants.

I can totally understand somebody who found his game, played it, liked it and paid money to get the latest version. No point discussing anyone's tastes and whether this game is worth the money you're paying for it (5 or 20 bucks depending on the version).

Ignoring Steam and Gumdrop's site for a moment, and focusing on Patreon only, what I cannot understand is how that same new patron, after looking around and finding out that:
• there's no progress for 2.5 years;
• Gumdrop set deadlines, broke them and made excuses every time;
• anyone who pledged money between Part IX and Part X release is going to get Part X without extra charges:
After finding out all of that still decides to support him for more than just one pledge.


If anything, 0.3. The game is supposed to be divided into three Acts, ten Parts each. So if Part X ever gets released, the game then becomes version 0.3333...


Someone did and made stuff that everyone's after, which are scenes of the characters in sexual situations. Oh, and the textures are higher quality, too, so it's better than whatever Gumdrop has to offer.

Wait who made sex scenes?

 

[FeralChild]

Unfortunately, it's closer to $6k-$6.5k. Graphtreon underestimates unknown income by a large margin for creators who have a high proportion of high pledge patrons.

He probably makes just as much money through his own website's subscriptions and through the various niche places he has them places.

 

[Bonhart]

surely this surprise that is rumored on the 30th is not the update, also because in theory it should not be a surprise since the game was "to be released by October" (after 2 years of disappointments)

for me there may be two hypotheses :

- a useless Halloween special

- the announcement of the umpteenth date, December

(sorry for my bad english)

 

[Zellio]

then they wouldn't set any specific release dates.

Scamdrop strings people along with new set dates, he gains new followers everytime he sets a new one.

 

[MykeRosy]

Looks like TENLOGOS is losing his shit on the discord page. You gotta love it.

 

[kilatin]

Looks like TENLOGOS is losing his shit on the discord page. You gotta love it.

With these things screen shots would be good - especially if we can track and trace the descent from fanboi to someone who'd not be taken by a regular mental asylum, for being too crazy, in the course of several weeks / months.

 

[BigDaddyDom]

Nah, make it 5$ - 10$, check

You must be registered to see the links

, the scammer still makes 5k/month, and math approves that. If u think that's a nice income, just look at how much ICSTOR makes.

Man, some ppl are... breathtaking. Personally, I don't give a shit about how much some smart dudes pay for a scam, problem is, others will do the same, and if the patrons don't care about their money, neither does Patreon, so you can't stop the milkers from milking the supporters and stop developing their games.

If this shit keeps up, and nobody sanctions this kinda behavior, we'll lose all the major devs or at least all the promising games that pop up here on f95, that's what some of these patrons don't understand. If a scammer like Scamdrop doesn't release a damn update in 1y, he will never finish the damn game, stop paying for it. He'll probably release 1 or 2 updates if he loses most of his patrons.

It's far more likely we see an update someday if he's not incentivized to keep doing nothing.

He's also getting sales from Steam and wherever else he's selling it.

Exactly! There are too many people on this forum that defend the milkers and scammers, not understanding that they and the patrons who continue to pay despite devs delaying updates are only encouraging more devs to do this. In the last several months I've already seen a handful of games that I have been following start doing this. If you see other devs getting away with it, why wouldn't they do it too?

With these things screen shots would be good - especially if we can track and trace the descent from fanboi to someone who'd not be taken by a regular mental asylum, for being too crazy, in the course of several weeks / months.

I'm pretty sure these hardcore fanboys are actually friends of the devs though, or even alt accounts. I've definitely suspected this in certain game threads. I can't understand why anybody else would so blindly and vigrously defend scammers.