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VN Ren'Py Abandoned Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

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Kakato

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Feb 25, 2017
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Does anyone know if scamdrop replied to the negative comments ? Really want to see an exchange between those two parties. hahaha. His discord has not a single inch of impartiality in it. Only mentally fucked up ppl keep on defending him - Tenlengos or whatever he's called and the other guy are just blind lost cases.
 
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gunguy1109

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Does anyone know if scamdrop replied to the negative comments ? Really want to see an exchange between those two parties. hahaha. His discord has not a single inch of impartiality in it. Only mentally fucked up ppl keep on defending him - Tenlengos or whatever he's called and the other guy are just blind lost cases.
I think he's been completely silent on patreon, discord, and his site since the new update dropped.
 
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Casikaz

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Dec 4, 2020
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Actually, the "Gumdrop-Entity" itself has spoken blessing his patreons with the truth at last.
To be more specific, for whoever wanted to listen to its own (creepy as f***, distorted, serial-killer-ish) voice:
- Unpack "../DFX/archive.rpa";
- Go to "../DXF/game/kino/" directory;
- Using VLC, or similar, Open "MM.webm" (the video of a pixelated skeleton illuminated by stroboscopic lights who's playing piano passionately for 11' : 11 secs. straight), and jump (pausing) to min. 10' : 30 sec;
- Set volume to max, slow down play-speed to about 70%, and start playing to "enjoy";

Those sentences may seems vague and random at first, but after some replay a "speech" as such should emerge:
"Audio Transcription":
"I don't believe it ... Oh God .... I've actually believed myself .... I was actually thinking myself seriously, ... DO YOU UNDERSTAND YOU'RE ACTUALLY CHEERING US AND BELIEVING US, THINKING IN SOME SIDE OF YOUR HEAD WE ARE SELLING FOR SOMETHING...THEN YOU IGNORING IT...AGAIN AND AGAIN ... [YOU NOW] THINK THAT IT HURTS OR YOU'RE FEELING BAD...BUT YOU, SOME PART OF YOU WAS KNOWING THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION...OK?"
Someone send that audio transcription to the discord server and see how fast his apostles come up with more ridiculous explanations for it.
 
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Dependable_223

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Jan 3, 2019
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Well what more do you want ? playing the piano is no small feat. and this introduced into an adult game. You gotta admit that piano looked more sexy then the cousin. Next we need a new tutorial to play the guitar. :devilish: then we can start our own Rock band.

This should be done in the game Being a Rockstar
 

cxx

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Nov 14, 2017
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Well what more do you want ? playing the piano is no small feat. and this introduced into an adult game. You gotta admit that piano looked more sexy then the cousin. Next we need a new tutorial to play the guitar. :devilish: then we can start our own Rock band.

This should be done in the game Being a Rockstar
there is already become a rockstar.
 

Deimacos

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Apr 5, 2018
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Can someone give me a tldr update on what's been happening with this shit show?
Basically, dev finally shows up and says hell be restarting the whole game from zero, and there will be an update showcasing all the work he's done for it, with more updates to come on a weakly basis after it.
Next, an update gets released, and is, quite literally what you see on DMK screenshot up there, is just a "piano lesson", and pretty much nothing more
Now, people are either enjoying the fire, questioning his reasoning or his mental state; His patreons are still trying to hold onto the update to be released next week, in denial of the reality that they've been duped for the last 4 years.
All the while, his mods on Discord are trying to do damage control, coming up with strawman arguments, bearing in mind the dev, has gone silent, deleted all post on Patreon and the website, included the update release dates, and apparently put a (distorted) recording in the update files that hints this has always been a scam.
 

Dirkusmaximus

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Aug 28, 2017
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The problem with the idea of it always having been a scam is that he released it on Steam and I would've thought that was a slightly different thing legally to just having it on Patreon. I'm more inclined to the view that it was more opportunism, caused by realising that he could get money for nothing.
 

Casikaz

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Dec 4, 2020
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The problem with the idea of it always having been a scam is that he released it on Steam and I would've thought that was a slightly different thing legally to just having it on Patreon. I'm more inclined to the view that it was more opportunism, caused by realising that he could get money for nothing.
Yeah, those renders of nostrils were really worth of all the $ people put in to it on Steam and then on Patreon.
 
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Basically, dev finally shows up and says hell be restarting the whole game from zero, and there will be an update showcasing all the work he's done for it, with more updates to come on a weakly basis after it.
Next, an update gets released, and is, quite literally what you see on DMK screenshot up there, is just a "piano lesson", and pretty much nothing more
Now, people are either enjoying the fire, questioning his reasoning or his mental state; His patreons are still trying to hold onto the update to be released next week, in denial of the reality that they've been duped for the last 4 years.
All the while, his mods on Discord are trying to do damage control, coming up with strawman arguments, bearing in mind the dev, has gone silent, deleted all post on Patreon and the website, included the update release dates, and apparently put a (distorted) recording in the update files that hints this has always been a scam.
What did the distorted recording say?
 

Casikaz

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Dec 4, 2020
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What did the distorted recording say?
"I don't believe it ... Oh God .... I've actually believed myself .... I was actually thinking myself seriously, ... DO YOU UNDERSTAND YOU'RE ACTUALLY CHEERING AND BELIEVING US, THINKING IN SOME SIDE OF YOUR HEAD WE ARE SELLING FOR SOMETHING...THEN WE IGNORING YOU...AGAIN AND AGAIN ... [YOU NOW] THINK THAT THAT HURTS OR [MAKE YOU] FEELING BAD...BUT YOU, SOME PART OF YOU'S KNOWING WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET OUT OF THE SITUATION...OK?"
 

fotogaik

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May 13, 2017
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He actually lost about ten patrons after it dropped yesterday, but seems to have gained back the amount he had before. Crazy world
I recall Patreon changed the way they report the number of patrons starting this month. They will report the accumulated number of pledges made month to date instead of actual number of subscribers at a given moment. This reflects actual support more accurately.

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From the point of view of somebody who believed gumdrop:
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I find it hard to believe that he intended it to be a scam all the time. Adult games on Patreon were a huge unknown at the time. Now, some devs are raking in huge piles of money, others barely scrape through, but four years ago, it simply wasn't certain that spending all the time, effort, and likely money, on developing the game would ever pay off. And later Patreon changed the rules concerning incest, causing a huge distraction among developers who were suspended. Gumdrop's account was suspended twice and he lost at least two months pledges during that time (you don't auto-renew when a suspension is lifted).
Suspensions aside, Gumdrop set a very unhealthy precedent.
He was the first adult VN creator that went on a hiatus but kept his patrons. All other developers lose patrons when they show no proof of work. Gumdrop was immune to that.

Yeah, those renders of nostrils were really worth of all the $ people put in to it on Steam and then on Patreon.
Sarcasm aside, he does have a point.

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By the way, just looking at the contents of DFX.zip archive:
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He didn't even have this pile of crap complete when making the announcement. He literally slapped it together on the morning on 19th. (Mac version was compiled half a day earlier.)
 
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Zellio

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Maybe he came in with good intentions but somebody doesn't just spend 3 years lying, manipulating, and taking peoples money without feeling guilt unless they are a sociopathic manipulator. He's obviously done this before. Take it from me, I manipulate and lie to people pretty well but I'm not enough of a sociopath to steal money for 3 years...
 
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