VN Ren'Py Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

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hipsterbag

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Although it could be 100% a troll, there is something legitimately CREEPY about this update. Feels like it belongs on nexpo or /x/. It's cursed. The opening scared the shit out of me with the neon skeleton.

Possible that gumdrop has slowly lost his mind and is full-tier schizo and/or crystal meth addict. If it wasn't a scam it would be a good piece of performance art.
 
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asokaaso2

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I don't know Italian, did anyone listen to the woman reading to confirm what it actually is? Is it original content or some audiobook?


Your leak might be incorrect. We know what the prologue is, but then:
Part I: Violin Game
Part II: Harpsichord Game
Part III: Cello Game
After all, it's called DUAL family, so it's only fitting there would be two families of instruments, no?
didn't play the game but from what I am seeing, he used existing music and not sure what's the deal with F-Zero game
 
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I just found out that the game will only be released this Thursday for those that give the guy $20 a month. Can one of you who are a part of that group upload the download file/update in this thread. Much thanks in advance to whoever uploads the download link here :)
Edited due to some error on my part:

I don't think you will have much luck requesting the update here, since the release on the 26th of Feb is for Tier 4 Patrons (T4), which costs $20 USD. The next release -for the same update-, comes on the 26th of March and is the one for Tier 2 Patrons (T2), which is $5 USD.
 
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Casikaz

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I don't think you will have much luck requesting the update here, since the release on the 26th of Feb is for Tier 4 Patrons (T4), which costs $75 USD. The next release -for the same update-, comes on the 26th of March and is the one for Tier 2 Patrons (T2), which is $20 USD.
LMAO, now that is a definition of a scam right there :KEK:
 

asokaaso2

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I just found out that the game will only be released this Thursday for those that give the guy $20 a month. Can one of you who are a part of that group upload the download file/update in this thread. Much thanks in advance for whoever uploads the download link here :)
someone needs to check the discord fast after the release since the apostles delete negative replies there
 
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Gr8Dumper

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talking about checking out the comments, you should look at the Patreon posts:
people are pissed and are calling him a scam artist straight up. I wonder how long they will stay up before they get deleted...
 
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cxx

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yea a bit but will there be enuf of those who see the light of truth?
 

fotogaik

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talking about checking out the comments, you should look at the Patreon posts:
people are pissed and are calling him a scam artist straight up. I wonder how long they will stay up before they get deleted...
Patreon will not take action against alleged scams. Caveat emptor.

They will take action against people who knowingly distribute infected software, against illegal content** and against false claims*, but unfortunately, Gumdrop doesn't fall into any of these categories.

[*] Gumdrop can legitimately claim that "DFX" is subject to freedom of artistic expression and that people are free to evaluate whether it meets their criteria of worthy content before signing up since he offers it for free.
Moreover, he has the perfect excuse since he provided "pinup packs" for years, which, regardless of what they contain, is proof of work and nobody can legitimately claim that Gumdrop provided nothing for their money.
Finally, there are creators on Patreon who literally give no perks to their patrons, all the content is available for free, and Patreon is just a way for people to support the creator without expecting anything in return.
And we turn full circle, because that is literally the idea upon which Patreon was built. It was supposed to be similar to the ancient institution of patronage where a rich patron would retain creators, provide for their needs and expect nothing in return. Creators could, but weren't forced to express their gratitude, which makes it different from commissioning artists to create or perform work exactly as ordered by the sponsor.

Gumdrop was reported to Patreon as a scammer multiple times. He was never suspended or banned over these reports.

[**] He was suspended (twice) for questionable content when Patreon instituted rules against incest and non-consensual sex (among other things) which Dual Family violated. IIRC, the first suspension was to remove all references to incest. It forced a huge rewrite, and extended beyond the 1st, so he lost all income for that month (that was back when he actually was delivering content regularly). The second time it happened, it was shorter and prompted an update from 0.98 to 0.99. It was presumably over rape content, since he was allowed to stay and didn't face disciplinary action since. He was actually reported over rape content based on version 0.98 here. It resulted in no action against Gumdrop, which is why I presume his last version (0.99) is clean.
 

fotogaik

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Worse:


He went from 526 to 623 patrons in one month. An increase of nearly 100, possibly will exceed 100.

Patreon switched from reporting momentary signed up patrons to monthly accumulated total in January (not February) and you can see that back in January, he went from 541 patrons to 724. Which is frankly ridiculous.

As it stands, any number at the moment is likely untrue. We will only see the result of patron loss on March the 1st. Less than a week to go.

What I cannot understand is how he went from 619 patrons on the 19th to 623 patrons now. Four people signed up since DFX was released. I don't get it, unless Patreon moved from charging on the 1st of the month to charging on the same day every month.
 
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Gr8Dumper

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Worse:


He went from 526 to 623 patrons in one month. An increase of nearly 100, possibly will exceed 100.

Patreon switched from reporting momentary signed up patrons to monthly accumulated total in January (not February) and you can see that back in January, he went from 541 patrons to 724. Which is frankly ridiculous.

As it stands, any number at the moment is likely untrue. We will only see the result of patron loss on March the 1st. Less than a week to go.

What I cannot understand is how he went from 619 patrons on the 19th to 623 patrons now. Four people signed up since DFX was released. I don't get it, unless Patreon moved from charging on the 1st of the month to charging on the same day every month.
True but look at the long term trend.
He did get a lot of patrons back in January because they anticipated the new release but he lost them all more or less again comparing peek in December 2020 to peek in February 2021 = all the net new patrons he got in January are now gone BUT he kept the core # of supporter from December so the trend has flattened. Maybe that was his goal: to stop the bleeding and start recovering. Also he went from 800 supporters to 600 in 2021 (February peek to peek comparison) so I can see why he needed to do something.
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fotogaik

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True but look at the long term trend.
Oh, the long term trend is certainly falling.
He did get a lot of patrons back in January because they anticipated the new release but he lost them all more or less again
I don't see that. Since Gumdrop hid his income, those ~100 patrons he "gained" in January could be duplicate accounts set up by Gumdrop each pledging $1 to pretend that he's getting back patrons, so anything is possible.
comparing peek in December 2020 to peek in February 2021 = all the net new patrons he got in January are now gone BUT he kept the core # of supporter from December so the trend has flattened.
We don't know what the peak in December was. Peak to peak comparisons are meaningless and invalid before 2021.
You could have a patron sign up every minute, then withdraw a minute later, and before 2021, graphtreon would show a peak of 2 patrons, while starting in 2021, it would show a correct 40,000+ patron peak.

And all creators have a loss of patrons on the 1st of every month because of failed payments that need to be retried or which will complete after being verified on the next business day.
Maybe that was his goal: to stop the bleeding and start recovering. Also he went from 800 supporters to 600 in 2021 (February peek to peek comparison) so I can see why he needed to do something.
I don't see how anything he says could result in increased number of patrons. Within the scope of any month in the past, he gained and lost patrons when he was completely silent and he gained and lost patrons when he was active with his pinup packs. Literally nothing he does has any bearing on the number of patrons except for one thing: the long downward trend because of no Part X release.
 

Gr8Dumper

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Oh, the long term trend is certainly falling.

I don't see that. Since Gumdrop hid his income, those ~100 patrons he "gained" in January could be duplicate accounts set up by Gumdrop each pledging $1 to pretend that he's getting back patrons, so anything is possible.

We don't know what the peak in December was. Peak to peak comparisons are meaningless and invalid before 2021.
You could have a patron sign up every minute, then withdraw a minute later, and before 2021, graphtreon would show a peak of 2 patrons, while starting in 2021, it would show a correct 40,000+ patron peak.

And all creators have a loss of patrons on the 1st of every month because of failed payments that need to be retried or which will complete after being verified on the next business day.

I don't see how anything he says could result in increased number of patrons. Within the scope of any month in the past, he gained and lost patrons when he was completely silent and he gained and lost patrons when he was active with his pinup packs. Literally nothing he does has any bearing on the number of patrons except for one thing: the long downward trend because of no Part X release.
there might be another explanation that I heard from another creator. Patreon has changed how to record and count patrons in January so things look better than they are (all things equal). Net net you can't really compare data from 2020 and 2021 in the tool tool (the tool inflates 2021 numbers compared to 2020 - all else being equal). all the other things you said are also factors we just do not know how much they impact/or not (graphtreon does not tell).
 

Pestilence

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This DXF release was nothing but pretentious trash, I literally couldn't stomach what was being narrated and had to force quit. Apparently I didn't miss much. It'd be a tragic indicator of what drugs can do to a person if it wasn't so comically absurd at this point.
 

sob

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I think many of those 600 patreons are in the $5 tier. He had a $1 tier before cleaning Patreon, right? If they are he is down a lot from the $7.000 per month he was making when it was visible on Patreon.

I think his plan is to up those $5 to $20 or more for early releases to milk them to the moon. But I don't think people are eager to learn how to play instruments from porn games. They can wait a month for their next ukulele lesson.

But hey maybe he is a visionary and he starts a cultural revolution. Should PornHub start doing cooking courses? OnlyFans teaching survival skills?

The action of his next release should take place in a farm to send his patreons those hidden messages while they literally milk the cow in a porn game. Hue HUe huEE!!!
 
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