VN Ren'Py Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

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Imperator753

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Wow! So much hate in this thread o.o
If you were here from the beginning, you'd understand why. This dev presented a unique idea that left us quite hopeful and within 3 updates, had turned all that hope into one disappointment after another. The only reason he makes money now, I suspect, is because he's using a portion of his monthly income to advertise on different websites that attract newcomers ignorant to his sleazy "I missed my date again, lol" tactics.

P.S. What I just wrote is better writing than what is in game and I consider it (what I wrote) pretty shit, so that's what I think of his writing abilities....
 
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Even with the slow and sloppy development (way too suspicious now I must say, missing deadlines like that considering how Patreon works is not right), I liked the game. I don't think rushing sexual content is the answer as people here are suggesting. The problem I see is a little more subtle.

I think he is overplaying the dark thematic. Removing agency from the female characters through overplayed and unexplained depression is no different than the usual games which rely on magic pills to take advantage of women.
Contrary to people here, I loved the cousin character because she seemed like an independent woman who was very open to anything. Now it seems she is being coerced by her mother and that she has tons of issues. Same with the daughter, who seems to be always sad. Marriage issues are not that dark, the emo undertones this game is pushing are unrealistic and seem forced to justify unnecessary long winded and "deep" conversations.

The game has way too many emo conversations that feel out of place. People don't usually spend all their time grieving over common issues like the characters in this game. The game made it appear as if all the characters were informed that they are gonna die in 2 weeks. They are all angry at each other for stupid reasons (why is the mother so fucking angry at the aunt? why is the daugher so angry at the cousin? why is the mother randomly rejecting the son and playing the emo card? why is the father always describing his niece as if she was a ghoul? why is the cousin so cheerful in the first episodes and now she is literally crying as she gives a blowjob?).

I think emotional conflicts are fine. That is what I liked about the game in the first place. But the game is going too far with it. Worst of all, it is making me not enjoy the few sexual interactions. They all feel as if one party is being taken advantage of.

For example, the scene with the cousin blabbering the usual emotional mess while giving a blowjob drunk is not satisfying at all. It feels like non consensual sex. I think it would have been perfect if your shitty decisions lead to that, but he is railroading that gloomy angle too hard on all characters. Something similar happens with the father route, where he is always extremely reluctant to sex with anyone. That should be up to your own decisions, in some cases at least. It seems he is now pushing for the father to only have sex with the cousin while he is asleep. That's not satisfying at all either. He should have left that up to decisions, and let a more organic relation be allowed, where the cousin and father could interact without one being asleep and extremely reluctant.

The game right now feels as if you hardcoded all the bad and dark decisions in a japanese VN and released that as a game. Either leave that up to decisions, or tone down the emo undertones.

Finally, I think people on this site in general have very unrealistic expectations over what can be achieved in 1 month. They are always complaining about slow progress without realizing how much work it is to put it all together. Happened with Big Brother too. This is compounded in this game by having two stories. If you only like one story that is your problem, the game is meant to be played wholly. This is like going to the Teacher's Pets thread and complaining that there was no progress on the only one character that I like, and throwing a tantrum every single update about it. That's silly. If you only want mother/son interaction go get another game dedicated to that only. Don't try to make every game as generic as possible by spamming threads of unique games like this one.
 
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wewlad

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For those of you wondering what his Patreon comments are like, about half of them are questions about bugs and crashes. The other half mirror your angry comments. Really, sitting here and bitching on the internet might make you feel like THE TRUE ALPHA MALE but it's not going to change anything. The few people said they dropped their pledges and he asked for forgiveness. The real venomous comments he's pretty much ignoring because quite frankly, that's a waste of his time. No matter what he says you to, you're not going to be happy. The real way to stick it to him is to stop pledging, stop playing the game and stop talking about it all together. Otherwise, he's getting free advertising and you'll drive more traffic his way (even if it's just to troll him). I personally enjoyed what I have played (however I haven't been playing month-to-month). Personally, I rotate my Patreon pledges every few months because I tend to get frustrated (see Dating My Daughter and Something Unlimited threads to see why). Right now, I'm not angry but in a few months I might be, I don't know. The next update could be as bad or worse as this one or it might be the best update ever.
Nice try Gumdrop
 

Hoboy

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I will say the reason I still follow this is because of the dual element - and - for each update one will seem to be a little more shorted than the other. I am not a Patron, so do not know what they are asking for. BUT - if they want aunt/cousin - guess what? That's what we all get. I will wade through the different iterations as they unfold and continue to hope that this game will live up to it's title - the DUAL family...
 

caravaggio

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I was disappointed with the last 2-3 updates, but I actually like this one, the slow build up is a point of this serie, so no point in complaining for the lack of action, the spirit is a little too depressing to be honest, but at least there's a decent amount of content this time!
 

Joshua Tree

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I was disappointed with the last 2-3 updates, but I actually like this one, the slow build up is a point of this serie, so no point in complaining for the lack of action, the spirit is a little too depressing to be honest, but at least there's a decent amount of content this time!
Thats the thing aint it? I mean, this game seems to focus on a much slower build up. Slower progress towards lewdness paired with the dual paths makes for a slower affair. The total update with 16 scenes as whole, is not that bad for a month, but if you only focus on one of the paths and not interested in the other you end up dissapointed.

If all the games was the same, and all you seek is the fastest path to rub your knobs, wouldn't just google for your favourite fetish porn be a much better option?

What we want and what we get is two different things, and it doesn't really differs much if its a incest porn game from Patreon or some tripple A tittle, hey, ME: Andromeda anyone?
 

gramaton

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i really like the mother in this game, i mean DF Mom=Best Mom! but ffs how long she'll be misserable? look at her face - has she ever smiling? it's 0.7 already! every update im preparing for nice fap on mom, but hey... where is my hard-on?... and at the end of update i go to the store and buy beer, such depressing shit.
 
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Ero - Sennin

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The main conflict in this game is that the unfair updates of routes. The reason why it is slow because of that. The dev here must learn how to balance the two routes in each update
 
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i really like the mother in this game, i mean DF Mom=Best Mom! but ffs how long she'll be misserable? look at her face - has she ever smiling? it's 0.7 already! every update im preparing for nice fap on mom, but hey... where is my hard-on?... and at the end of update i go to the store and buy beer, such depressing shit.
I agree. As I said, I think he is going too far with the gloomy angle. It was especially jarring in this update considering they are all supposed to be having fun at the beach on a sunny day, and there were ample opportunities for relaxing and pleasant activities between the characters. Instead we got depressing conversations and people shouting at each other.
Unless the game is becoming incredibly dark soon (probably including supernatural stuff), I don't see how this is warranted by the game's plot so far.
 

Joshua Tree

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I agree. As I said, I think he is going too far with the gloomy angle. It was especially jarring in this update considering they are all supposed to be having fun at the beach on a sunny day, and there were ample opportunities for relaxing and pleasant activities between the characters. Instead we got depressing conversations and people shouting at each other.
Unless the game is becoming incredibly dark soon (probably including supernatural stuff), I don't see how this is warranted by the game's plot so far.
Im sorry to dissapoint you. But a family where the parrents in a trainwreck of a marriage, a day at the beach doesnt fix anything, nor really give room for plesant activities.
 

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I am personally in favour of scrapping the son route (there are countless games for that) and simply let the dad screw everyone.

The son can be send to military school or whatever. Don't really care as long as he vanishes.
 
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Im sorry to dissapoint you. But a family where the parrents in a trainwreck of a marriage, a day at the beach doesnt fix anything, nor really give room for plesant activities.
You are forgetting they willingly chose to go to the beach, and that I never said anything about fixing their issues by going to the beach.

Secondly, marriage issues like the ones presented in this game are extremely common. Adult people don't behave like emo teenagers like the people in this game when faced with common adversity. Actual humans don't spend all their time acting as if they were in a date with their psychiatrist when interacting with other people, even if going through rough times.

This game is becoming too unjustifiably gloomy, which is why so many people complain about the long winded conversations that repeat themselves as a result of that gloominess.
 
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