VN Ren'Py Abandoned Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

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J0K3RXXX

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We are already in 2024 and there is no progress. Since there is no difficulty in my previous prediction (that Joker 2 would be released before DF Act I's Part X releases), I will propose a more difficult one: we will see the future GTA10 (not the 6th or the 7th or the 8th or the 9th) before DF Act I's Part X releases.
 

cxx

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We are already in 2024 and there is no progress. Since there is no difficulty in my previous prediction (that Joker 2 would be released before DF Act I's Part X releases), I will propose a more difficult one: we will see the future GTA10 (not the 6th or the 7th or the 8th or the 9th) before DF Act I's Part X releases.
we will see update before gta10 but we won't see progression.
 
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Damn, every year I come here and wanted the original game to be finished :D

Quick question, the developer does not want to reveal his identity in a legal court case, I'm sure. Why doesn't someone here who can program and shit simply finish the game?
 
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cxx

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Damn, every year I come here and wanted the original game to be finished :D

Quick question, the developer does not want to reveal his identity in a legal court case, I'm sure. Why doesn't someone here who can program and shit simply finish the game?
what legal court? he hasn't broken any laws or patreon rules.

scamdrop still owns copyrights for this.
 
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what legal court? he hasn't broken any laws or patreon rules.

scamdrop still owns copyrights for this.
Say i am able to make coding and design (which I am not) and I "steal" the idea, story, characters, etc. and make this either free to play and/or paid.

Legally, the only way the creator can ask me to stop is through court. I guarantee that there ain't no way he will do so (cuz those records are public and he will have to reveal his real name in a civil court case).
 
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Count Morado

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Say i am able to make coding and design (which I am not) and I "steal" the idea, story, characters, etc. and make this either free to play and/or paid.

Legally, the only way the creator can ask me to stop is through court. I guarantee that there ain't no way he will do so (cuz those records are public and he will have to reveal his real name in a civil court case).
  1. You are wrong. They just need to file a copyright claim with whatever platform you choose to promote it (you mentioned paid - so it would be on patreon or subscribestar or itchio, etc). If you posted it only on sites like F95... then,
  2. They could have their attorneys file a cease and desist to you either through attempting to find your real identity or even to your account on whatever platform you are using (DM, etc). Neither 1 nor 2 would need to say his name. If 1 or 2 doesn't stop you, then...
  3. They could decide to go to court to file for copyright infringement where, yes, their name would go into court documents. However, no one has ever said the developer didn't want their identity known (if so, please point to where you read this)... And unless porn is not legal in their jurisdiction (even fictional), they wouldn't have a reason not to go to court. If you were found guilty of copyright infringement, you'd then be responsible to pay all court costs, your attorney fees, their attorney fees, any fines and financial compensation that the court determines in his favor. Even if you were found not guilty - you'd be responsible for your attorney fees.
Don't know your point of your post - but it's obvious you weren't aware of even three of the possible actions the developer could take if they decided you were infringing on their intellectual property.
 
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fotogaik

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About number 3:
They could decide to go to court to file for copyright infringement where, yes, their name would go into court documents. However, no one has ever said the developer didn't want their identity known (if so, please point to where you read this)...
People have a misguided belief that "Kyle" hides his identity to prevent online harassment or physical altercations over this game. As if this game is the only thing that matters in the world. It's just sad.
Another possibility is that he would be shunned by his family or his community over this game or its contents (especially if it's based on real people or real events). But unless they would specifically go to court or follow this case, they would probably stay completely oblivious to it.
And unless porn is not legal in their jurisdiction (even fictional), they wouldn't have a reason not to go to court.
The only reason is laziness. But since it's essentially more free money, there's really no reason to avoid going to court.
If you were found guilty of copyright infringement, you'd then be responsible to pay all court costs, your attorney fees, their attorney fees, any fines and financial compensation that the court determines in his favor. Even if you were found not guilty - you'd be responsible for your attorney fees.

Don't know your point of your post - but it's obvious you weren't aware of even three of the possible actions the developer could take if they decided you were infringing on their intellectual property.
IANAL and I don't know the intricacies of US court systems, but just to clarify: Could gumdrop establish a trust and assign copyright to it, then the trust would be the one to fight the copyright case? He'd still retain his anonymity, so even if he wanted to, that point would be moot.
 
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Count Morado

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IANAL and I don't know the intricacies of US court systems, but just to clarify: Could gumdrop establish a trust and assign copyright to it, then the trust would be the one to fight the copyright case?
Kind of yes and kind of no. Yes, a trust could be named something that has no identity information, such as "DF Trust." However, then no one identifiably connected to the developer could be name a trustee - so the developer would need to pay someone to manage the trust and at the relative pittance we're talking about that the developer gets from this game, that's not going to happen. Even if it did, similar to other organization documents, including incorporating a business or non-profit, then ownership of the game and the contents involved transferred to the trust from the developer could be public documents - and that would divulge the identity. That said, in order for the trust to prove it had standing in a copyright case, even if the documents weren't public, they would discoverable evidence in a court case.

Would be less mess and less attorney costs to just keep it as it is than create a trust.
As if this game is the only thing that matters in the world. It's just sad.
Yes, it is sad.
 

Xgkk

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Played a few years ago and here is my summary of the game for those that wonder what is going on in the game. I think the game hasn't changed much so it may still be worth it

I dont really know what is going on in the game after 4h of trying, so here is what i get from it it.

-MC
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Dies 3 times in this story 1º Jumping off the Building. 2º Car Accident. 3º MC Father kills MC with the bat after MC Mother take off the ring.
*MC talks like He is the developer of the game when the skeleton is helping him to make a ''game'' but says there is another Developer I guess MC talks about MC Sister because she is the one that paints the life of everyone.
*In one of the MC Sister paints ''DIN LICK'' she says that she gave him a ''scar''. When?
*The Airplane I guess represents the life of MC
-MC Sister
*She
dies 2 times: 1º Jumped after MC off the building. 2º Unknow
*She says that, that wasn't the first time she and he died also is not the first time they married.
*She gave MC as a birthday gift the eyes of the Skeleton. How?
*She paints the life of everyone like he is the developer of the ''game'' that MC was creating with the Skeleton.
*She is the only one that can remember the Alternative Universes and forces MC to marry her over and over?
-MC Mother
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Died after the MC father killed MC that is why she is on the island with MC and MC Sister. Probably the MC father killed her too.
*I guess MC Mother at an Alternative universe she suicide after MC and MC Sister die jumping off the Building.
-Skeleton is the representation of death so i assume that everyone who knows about the skeleton is dead
,but MC Father never gets to know him
-Island:
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In the island there is an ''Alternative Universe'' which MC, MC Sister and MC Mother are dead at the same time and another one in which only the MC Sister and the MC are dead.
*If MC died 3 times i guess that there are 3 different ''Alternative Universes''
*The other alternative universe may be when everyone is eating at the table and MC Mother asked MC where he went last night with the car. But they are all dead? Because if that is not the case i can't explain how and when MC die in a car accident and why MC Father never gets to know the Skeleton.

-Who the FK is Maria?

That is all i have xd
 

athreusclouds

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Played a few years ago and here is my summary of the game for those that wonder what is going on in the game. I think the game hasn't changed much so it may still be worth it
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May i give you a friendly advise?
Please, forget about this game and stop eating the same drugs as the man who created PART 2.
Because based on what you quoted above, they definitely provided a negative effect on you)

Hey Guys where can I find the full sex scenes with the matriarch?
Full? Well, considering that they are not in this thread after so many years maybe they don't exist at all, huh?)
Otherwise, someone would have already shared them.

But i think that you still have the opportunity to become a hero of the community because you still can buy SOMETHING
on the devs sites and share it with us and tell us - Is there a life after the payment?
 
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zoku

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May i give you a friendly advise?
Please, forget about this game and stop eating the same drugs as the man who created PART 2.
Because based on what you quoted above, they definitely provided a negative effect on you)


Full? Well, considering that they are not in this thread after so many years maybe they don't exist at all, huh?)
Otherwise, someone would have already shared them.

But i think that you still have the opportunity to become a hero of the community because you still can buy SOMETHING
on the devs sites and share it with us and tell us - Is there a life after the payment?
I played the game on browser and it seems that there is 5 scenes that are showcased as demo scenes and there is a possibility to buy them on his website or patreon. The 5 sex scenes are complete.
The problem between me and the dev is, he's not a reliable guy, and not deserving to buy anything from him. He himself takes drugs and everytime he's high he goes on this project. Also he charges very expensive for the worth of a promise of a animation content from a zero reliable dev who is a drug addict.

Someone here must have them, there is one foreplay animation in dollhouse + 4 complete sex scenes with the Matriarch. and they are out.
 

zoku

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There are no complete sex scenes with the mother. There are tease animations of 2-13 seconds , but no, there is no money shot scenes with the mother character. See them here: 18,616

If there were, the fanboys would be in here screaming "We told you so!!!"
Thanks for the link bro.
So this is what we get when we pay for the full videos?
 
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Dogorti

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There are no complete sex scenes with the mother. There are tease animations of 2-13 seconds , but no, there is no money shot scenes with the mother character. See them here: 18,616

If there were, the fanboys would be in here screaming "We told you so!!!"
man let this thread die lol, I'm sure if you stopped responding few people would comment on this thread :unsure:
 
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