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I mean, we don't KNOW if she fucked him over, the way she acts about the pregnancy it's very likely that it wasn't consensual.
It's been very vague as to what happened and so far she hasn't said who did what to her. She disappeared and hasn't explained where she went or what happened (as far as I can recall) and then comes back preggers. I don't know if in fact the MC does know but we don't or if to the current time in game the MC doesn't know.

Regardless, she is way too needy, desperate, and codependent. Not a personality type that I like.
 
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Not liking Hiroko o_O.


Probably the most unlikeable character is nosy Alice.
I disagree, I think Alice puts a little spice And perspective into the story, she doesn't fall at the feet of Matsu like everyone else, Think how sweet it would be to see when and how Matsu would get into her panties
 

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I disagree, I think Alice puts a little spice And perspective into the story, she doesn't fall at the feet of Matsu like everyone else, Think how sweet it would be to see when and how Matsu would get into her panties
Not saying I wouldn't corrupt Alice and get into her panties. Just saying she is one of the most unlikeable character to me.
 

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Hiroko is one of my least favourite characters too. Getting rid of her would be good move. Just think about what kind of frenzy it would cause amongst all the women when they'd realize that MC is marriagable again.
What if she were to tragically meet her end and thus drive more women toward the MC because he is a grieving widower (and yes I am a terrible person in porn games).
 

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Is she pregnant already? I wouldn't want to kill pregnant woman. Anyway, this conversation is bit too early. We need to meet her parents, reveal her being relative to Kotori and see her reaction for discovering MC having sex with the daughters and other women before she has fullfilled her role.
 

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I think you guys are bashing on Hiroko because she puts speed bumps on the development of other characters, which is fine, everyone is entitled to their opinions on the matter of course. However, I feel that shwoing that Matsu is not some creepy loser/eligble bachelor/young stud with no track record creates a more unique design than what we normally get to see. Part of that is Hiroko, if not for her for one we get none of the daughters which are some of the best characters in the game being frank, add on to that fact that without Hiroko Matsu would be in a much darker place most likely, the man is not exactly the most stable and he is probably just as codependant on his wife as she is on him.

Doesn't stop him from being a sexy beast to everyone else around hi, but it does tamp him downa nd bring him back to reality that he does indeed have a loving wife and family that he's got to remain grounded too and can't just completely nuts and overtake everyhting in sight. Matsu can be very level headed but we as players can also see the man can go off the hinges rather easily and with little provocation to the matter. Hiroko is probably the chain around the bulldog's neck in many ways to make sure that Matsu stays in just the right way that we've come to see him throughout the game.

Or maybe I just think that young emo hiroko is hot af and that I don't mind the udder waifu who is always down for sex with her anata and I'm extremely biased toward Matsu loving his family as I don't see these healthy realtionships between spouses in porn games often (for obvious reasons).
 

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I think you guys are bashing on Hiroko because she puts speed bumps on the development of other characters, which is fine, everyone is entitled to their opinions on the matter of course. However, I feel that shwoing that Matsu is not some creepy loser/eligble bachelor/young stud with no track record creates a more unique design than what we normally get to see. Part of that is Hiroko, if not for her for one we get none of the daughters which are some of the best characters in the game being frank, add on to that fact that without Hiroko Matsu would be in a much darker place most likely, the man is not exactly the most stable and he is probably just as codependant on his wife as she is on him.

Doesn't stop him from being a sexy beast to everyone else around hi, but it does tamp him downa nd bring him back to reality that he does indeed have a loving wife and family that he's got to remain grounded too and can't just completely nuts and overtake everyhting in sight. Matsu can be very level headed but we as players can also see the man can go off the hinges rather easily and with little provocation to the matter. Hiroko is probably the chain around the bulldog's neck in many ways to make sure that Matsu stays in just the right way that we've come to see him throughout the game.

Or maybe I just think that young emo hiroko is hot af and that I don't mind the udder waifu who is always down for sex with her anata and I'm extremely biased toward Matsu loving his family as I don't see these healthy realtionships between spouses in porn games often (for obvious reasons).

absolutely agree with everything you said. the present hiroko is a bit annoying especially during the training session, but i think that's intended. it actually shows that MC have a somewhat normal family life (barring other things in the family) with arguments and stuff, and like you said its actually quite a breath of fresh air that for once MC is not just some creepy loser dude and is actually marriage material. also the young / younger daughter scenes is all well done so far, i love how he always assert that his daughter will always come first for him. i actually think there's too much sexy scenes (lol) toward the middle of the game and i find myself keep skipping them when i replay lol. so i dont mind hiroko putting a little speed bump on matsu's fuck train. made it a little more exciting too.

i appreciate the game trying to build up a full story of him still being a good teacher while being a pervert. and like you said, and the game mention it too, matsu got a dark side and hiroko might be the only one keeping that in check. i love the past time episodes with hiroko too, gave me meteor garden vibes. the pregnant sexy scenes in the past times is also hot af, hopefully we can see more of those.
 
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i appreciate the game trying to build up a full story of him still being a good teacher while being a pervert. and like you said, and the game mention it too, matsu got a dark side and hiroko might be the only one keeping that in check. i love the past time episodes with hiroko too, gave me meteor garden vibes. the pregnant sexy scenes in the past times is also hot af, hopefully we can see more of those.
Honestly, the past time episodes are probably my favorite parts of the game at this point b/c I'm pretty engrossed in Hiroko and Matsu's story. I would actually like to see their story play out in a non-harem VN...and maybe take Himiko out cuz she's fking creepy as hell lol
 

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Honestly, the past time episodes are probably my favorite parts of the game at this point b/c I'm pretty engrossed in Hiroko and Matsu's story. I would actually like to see their story play out in a non-harem VN...and maybe take Himiko out cuz she's fking creepy as hell lol
yeah i agree and past times episodes is a good way to insert crazier shit without the constrain of times (like pregnancy) that would fit in the matsu "i dont like to talk about my past" personality. that would also explain (and be a stronger reason) why he tried to erase his past other than "i elope with hiroko that's why i dont like to talk about it". actually kinda disappointed that they skipped the whole part where matsu get to know more about hiroko at first and started drawing lines with the other past time girls. the only thing i dont like about past time is hitomi lol she creeps me the fuck out.
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yeah i agree and past times episodes is a good way to insert crazier shit without the constrain of times (like pregnancy) that would fit in the matsu "i dont like to talk about my past" personality. that would also explain (and be a stronger reason) why he tried to erase his past other than "i elope with hiroko that's why i dont like to talk about it". actually kinda disappointed that they skipped the whole part where matsu get to know more about hiroko at first and started drawing lines with the other past time girls. the only thing i dont like about past time is hitomi lol she creeps me the fuck out.
I actually have a feeling that they're gonna revisit hiroko and matsu getting to know each other. AFAIK Matsu saves Hiroko from killing herself, and that seems like way too strong of a moment for them NOT to utilize it. I realize this is harem porn game and all, but its pretty clear that the devs are putting effort into injecting some substance to the story.

Off topic but Fuyu is
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I actually have a feeling that they're gonna revisit hiroko and matsu getting to know each other. AFAIK Matsu saves Hiroko from killing herself, and that seems like way too strong of a moment for them NOT to utilize it. I realize this is harem porn game and all, but its pretty clear that the devs are putting effort into injecting some substance to the story.

Off topic but Fuyu is
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hopefully so, we cant be the only one who like the past time story between them. there's still a whole lot to cover as well, and i think BC actually plan to show us the past time up until university, we already got a glimpse of the structure.

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hopefully so, we cant be the only one who like the past time story between them. there's still a whole lot to cover as well, and i think BC actually plan to show us the past time up until university, we already got a glimpse of the structure.

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We're probably a small minority since I hiroko always ranked pretty low on the popularity. Oddly enough, I find her story more interesting than majority of characters in the game. And Im not gonna lie, Im a sucker for that trollface - -;. It would be pretty cool to see his days as underground fighter, not to mention all the little nice moments you'd get from Hiroko and Matsu's interaction.

Regarding, Hitomi, I agree her proportions are all out of whack, but honestly I'd take her over Himiko every single time. I've straight up Alt+F4ed b/c of her, and prolly the main reason why I didnt use the DM mod haha

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The wife is awesome though - horny as he is, body of a porn star and dedicated to him. It you slapped her persona into a teenage body then you'd get someone like Tomoe who every one loves... Weird how much stick she gets (likely as she's already 'conquered'). Honestly I like her more than the daughter's (exc Saki) esp Mao who is way too vanilla and the other 2 who go way off field way too soon (like in 2 weeks they've degraded completely when they should be biggest challenges really).

Someone should do a Ecchi Sensei tier maker for the girls lol. Some are awesome (Tomoe, Mika, Fuyu, Crazy Nurse etc), annoying beyond words (Himiko, Aki, Alice etc) and others I'd like or dislike more after they get more development (Neko, teachers etc) and of course all the ones weve barely seen enough to make judgement on.
 

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The wife is awesome though - horny as he is, body of a porn star and dedicated to him. It you slapped her persona into a teenage body then you'd get someone like Tomoe who every one loves... Weird how much stick she gets (likely as she's already 'conquered'). Honestly I like her more than the daughter's (exc Saki) esp Mao who is way too vanilla and the other 2 who go way off field way too soon (like in 2 weeks they've degraded completely when they should be biggest challenges really).

Someone should do a Ecchi Sensei tier maker for the girls lol. Some are awesome (Tomoe, Mika, Fuyu, Crazy Nurse etc), annoying beyond words (Himiko, Aki, Alice etc) and others I'd like or dislike more after they get more development (Neko, teachers etc) and of course all the ones weve barely seen enough to make judgement on.
i think it's because present hiroko rarely shows up in the main story (she's gone for like what, and week and half?) and when she show up it just took up the sex scenes lol.
there's already one
 

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i think it's because present hiroko rarely shows up in the main story (she's gone for like what, and week and half?) and when she show up it just took up the sex scenes lol.
there's already one
Funny enough I feel same way about the daughters, in week 2 they get so much focus no one else seemed to get a look in esp after feeling at time Kaede or Tomoe route would have more immediate impact but hope they get shelved all week 2 to focus on daughters as basically 90% of his class take back seat to them and the 145543 random girls who show up for one scene haha. The game is short on milf factor with just her, the head mistress and the neighbour regular alternates to teen central and was glad when she returned personally.
 
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