It doesn't change anything regarding Sunny. She is already almost like sister to the MC since they grew up together in the same household.Finally picked up this game yesterday after I've repeatedly seen people recommending it. Nice story and atmosphere, art is fine, too. Progress is rather slow, because as a non native speaker I can't stop looking up the exact meaning of the more uncommon words I don't quite know. That's my own "problem", though. I'm still really enjoying it so far!
Another thing: does incest patch also make Sunny your sister aside from adding scenes with the mother? Noticed some dialogue changes and am now contemplating which path I want to go.
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Cheers. Ye, you can def see it that way. Though I must say her being MC’s biological sister would’ve made the IP with regards to the mother-son-relationship a lot less appealing for me. So I’m glad it doesn’t change anything regarding Sunny.
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Sunny being MC's biological sister would have required a lot of re-write of the prologue and sporadic rewriting throughout the rest of the story (and I suspect her orphanage storyline will have a major effect on some future plot elements as well.) Probably more change than would be feasible for a drop-in patch by even such a clever modder as has subverted Worlaix' story with this insidious patch.
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No, at least not at this time. IDK if it will in the future, although I suppose it's possible. I don't remember if the dev has specified one way or the other.
It will eventually, yeah. It might be a while though, so by the time we get there you might have a LOT of text to read (skip?) through to get that SWEET ASS.
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Read, for me. I'm definitely here for the story, though I won't shy away from some nice lewd scene.
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I assume you're talking about lewd scenes. No, there are none of those with the mom yet (just seeing her nude briefly and/or sexy poses).
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One can hope we get some she's fucking hot as hell, it'd be almost a crime if we didn't get anything.
So far this game is a real slow burn, but i enjoy the story anyway. But there is effectively zero lewd in this game yet lol. literally a glimpse of a hooker and her john, and a handjob for elf boy. and thats it. kinda disappointing for "Episode 4"
probably should have had more of something, ideally, more episodes
0/10 porn
10/10 story tho
probably should have had more of something, ideally, more episodes
0/10 porn
10/10 story tho
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This never was intended to be heavy on sexual content in comparison to the story and plot development. If you were looking for that, you chose the wrong game. Unless the dev indicates otherwise, this will continue to be as it is: light on lewdness but full of story and characterization . . . and great artwork too, ofc.So far this game is a real slow burn, but i enjoy the story anyway. But there is effectively zero lewd in this game yet lol. literally a glimpse of a hooker and her john, and a handjob for elf boy. and thats it. kinda disappointing for "Episode 4"
probably should have had more of something, ideally, more episodes
0/10 porn
10/10 story tho
I definitely plan to introduce more and more lewd content. Like I've said before here, the main reason for the slow burn was that I wasn't confident I could draw good sex scenes - if I had made Elvensang now at my current "skill level", I would have started things off by making some side characters like Becky the first available romances of the protagonist while keeping Sunny as a slow burn while her arc unfolded.
Alas, I have to play with the cards I dealt myself and continue on this track to keep things consistent; as such, you can't expect that episode 3, where Sunny and MC gingerly kiss, would be followed up by some wild fucking in episode 4.
There's always the possibility I'll throw in some side character wrenches into the expected sexual progression, BUT... one way or another, the porn isn't meant to be the point in Elvensang - it's meant to be a byproduct of the story.
Alas, I have to play with the cards I dealt myself and continue on this track to keep things consistent; as such, you can't expect that episode 3, where Sunny and MC gingerly kiss, would be followed up by some wild fucking in episode 4.
There's always the possibility I'll throw in some side character wrenches into the expected sexual progression, BUT... one way or another, the porn isn't meant to be the point in Elvensang - it's meant to be a byproduct of the story.
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It is the same case for devs of a handful of other games in this forum, but they will never admit.
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i think we have completely different concepts of "light"
to me its a % of content.
heavy would be like 50% of content.
average to me would be like 10% of content. expecting 1 out of 10 scenes to be sexual
light to me means like 5% or maybe 3% (1 out of 20 scenes, to 1 out of 35)
For Elvensang its like 0.001% theres literally 1.5 scenes? the 1 scene is a handjob. the .5 is just some random hooker and her client in a passing moment. its like 1 frame and its not even involving the MC.
As of right now, this is not a porn game. this is practically pg13
i expect in time it will get more lewd obviously. though i wonder just how much time...
i definitely understand. lol this will always feel that way, because your skill keeps growing forever
but what you have created here is unique and very enjoyable, so I wouldnt change it. its only currently giving this slow vibe because the content hasnt progressed yet, but I think in time it will be very good. likely better than most VNs BECAUSE of the slow burn and intentional attention to immersion.
the problem with the solution most people take (as you mentioned) of having other lets say promiscuous starting characters is that it cheapens the experience by diverging from immersion a bit. not always, but often enough to be noticeable. Many VNs do exactly that, and the MC bangs a handful of targets casually before getting to the main targets that have more substance.
Im not saying it ruins the games but it does often feel cliché. I wouldnt change what you have done here, or at least if you were going to "spice up" the content you already have by adding in a few scenes, i think the artful way to do it might be to piggy back on something you were already doing, which is giving short windows into the lives of distant characters. Like when you showed the ranger talking to the brigands in their hideout. The MC not present, its just a valuable piece of lore the reader gets to experience. those i think are the ideal types of moments to throw in some lewd service in the early game to tide over the reader until they reach the more substantial stuff where the MC is involved as the story grows.
If you could deliver both interesting important lore and eye service at the same time, that would be royal
i think it would have more value than generically involving the MC in some casual sex (though there are always sum exceptions)
like.... getting a blowie from Ginny for example, could happen early, seem awkward intentionally, not feel cheap... BUT it would lessen the impact of that first private conversation MC has with her, which is satisfying because its unexpected.
Honestly, I would change nothing. and add very little, peppered in to the content that the story has already progressed through... provided most of what is added doesnt involve the MC.
hahaha really i just want the next chapter! ;P
that is the main risk or sacrifice that has to be made when venturing any slow burn content, it comes along with an automatic expectation that there will be a significant mass of content to eat through. its usually worth the wait though
in anycase, Elvensang is already in my top 10 of 100+ memorable VNs on f95, and it feels like its just begun. so good fucking job mate
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You've got a whole set of definitions for percentage of content? I didn't know there was going to be a quiz on this. I consider "light" to mean . . . not much. I don't have a predetermined percentage, number of frames, or anything at all like that. This game has "not much", so it's "light" to me. However you define it yourself, I use it in the generic sense: not very much.
right i guess im saying to me "not very much" means still more than "practically zero"
but still i think a lot of the issue is that the project is early in dev and not much content in general is out yet. its just an intro and intros are generally "light" sexual content already
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When is the MC going to finally have a closer relationship with his caretaker, and his roommate?
I think its WAY overdue for them.
I think its WAY overdue for them.