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Dessolos

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Even if the Siren path ends up being crap for me it will take a lot of me to stop playing tbh. I mostly play this game for Vanessa and Rachael and of course Ashe's story. It really wouldn't bother me if the way she acts on a certain path is butchered , MC acting as a Sub or Dom really don't bother me all that much sure might be annoying once in awhile if there is no choice for certain things. Like if I was on the Dom path and had to accept the cop doing things cause I really hate that character but at the end of the day wouldn't be a big issue for me.
 

Limina_Leaker

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With nothing posted yet, I was gonna pay the price and post it here. After reading how shit this update is, I'll wait till the public release. Shame the route thing sucks ass. 4.0 promised too much I guess.
 

doovel

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Hey, I just have one question, you can spoiler it too, but do you know if I can do anything with lexi on the kitten path or is she locked to siren path. If you haven't played that path, I understand, just wondering if I can pursue her on the kitten path too, thanks.

I went and checked for you, but for you to be able to interact with Lexi you need to be on either the Cuck route or the Siren route. Otherwise you're at the cop's flat, and even if you run away you won't go to the beach. When you're on the cuck route you drop of Rachel and then scamper off to the beach. Where you then get cucked (?) by the bar lady, which is a little weird as Lexi acts far too shy around Ashe already to suddenly be going down on the bar lady like that.

Not sure if it should count as cucking, as you haven't really made a move on Lexi. But I'll leave that to the cuckishists.


With nothing posted yet, I was gonna pay the price and post it here. After reading how shit this update is, I'll wait till the public release. Shame the route thing sucks ass. 4.0 promised too much I guess.
Hopefully you're not letting my disappointment with the Siren route paint all the routes in a negative light? Don't assume because I don't like it no one will. I'm heavily biased towards a dom path, as anything else just isn't my cup of tea. The dom route just isn't executed well or properly implemented enough for me to enjoy. This is probably because the overall story arc is veering in a sub/cuck direction, the story beats align with those routes*. If you enjoy either of those routes, you really ought to give it a fair shake.

* I am of the opinion that even within the story so far a dom route could have been worked in better.
 
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Onbunga

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In my opinion this update was decent. I think the 0.4 update was so great that people (me included) had too many expectations for this one. I still like this update as much as 0.3 and better than the first 2 updates. My problem with it is that I did not get the scenes I was hoping for:
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There are other scenes I wanted but I didn't expect them to be in this update so I don't mind. In fact the only scene I wanted that was in this update was the one with Fiona so I think this is why I didn't feel it was worth the wait. At least most of the stuff I want was teased for the party that will be in the next update. I am curious to see who Fiona hooks up with in the cuckqueen route and how Ashe deals with most her love interests being present there on the non sharing routes.
I hope the next update is only the party as I want it to be a big thing and also hope that the update comes faster.
The routes feel fine to me as playing all 3 shows big differences in Ashe while not making it seem too unrealistic.
To all the people that actually think Evelyn will be gone for as long as she says I want to remind that Evelyn was stated by the developer to be a Main Love Interest so having her gone for years of development where she will have little progress with Ashe and Fiona is very very unlikely.
The only other big problem I had with the update other than unmet expectations is the blackmailer. I can't wait for this plotline to be done with. Ashe needs to find their identity already so she can fuck or get fucked by them already so we can escape this plotline.
 

doovel

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Even if the Siren path ends up being crap for me it will take a lot of me to stop playing tbh. I mostly play this game for Vanessa and Rachael and of course Ashe's story. It really wouldn't bother me if the way she acts on a certain path is butchered , MC acting as a Sub or Dom really don't bother me all that much sure might be annoying once in awhile if there is no choice for certain things. Like if I was on the Dom path and had to accept the cop doing things cause I really hate that character but at the end of the day wouldn't be a big issue for me.
On the dom path you can text the cop a "rude no", a "firm but polite no" and just plain ignore and block her. Ashe blocks her number on all three options though. So it's flavour for now.

On the cuck route characters are either added to an interaction or were already there but now fuck the LI. In this episode all the characters that cuck the MC are darker skinned, taller, far more muscular and have a much bigger schlong. For whoever is into that.

Don't let my annoyance with the dom path colour every path negatively. If the kitten/cuck paths are up your alley, this game might well be your favourite.

I will have to double down after quickly replaying the earlier episodes though. Ashe gets to actually make decisions prior to the route split. She is essentially already on a path that should make her act more dominant if those are the choices you made, not less and certainly not more shy and timid.

Examples:
  • You can make the decision to let Cleo help or do it yourself
  • You can tell off Vanessa for stealing your beer and you can double down when she challenges you. (even though Ashe's timing is horrible, but that's besides the point).
  • Ashe literally erupts in a fiery confrontation with Isabella and the Gorilla. None of that fire is seen in episode 5.
  • Ashe gets confrontational with Rachel right afterwards and actually shares her feelings in a fiery but relatively measured way.
  • Ashe can choose to get away from the cop in the locker room or let her continue.
  • Ashe can rudely tell Vanessa she's an asshole or tell her she shouldn't have done that. (Less meaningful, but some flavour)
  • You can Isabella to shut up at the pool.
  • You can tell off Cleo for touching Rachel's boob in the pool
In this episode the places where you should be able to make decisions are skipped and you're just forced to go along with whatever the dev has decided as necessary for the plot. Ashe decides to insert the butt plug, no player choice. Ashe decides not to send a picture of it up her ass, no player choice.

Ashe acts shier in this episode than in all the previous ones. All of her fire is suddenly gone. She makes no dom decisions, but is essentially thrown a freebie by Lexi. I forget the slutty red head's name, but on the video call with her it turns into full on phone masturbation. She talks about Ashe's "big dick", but if you know the cuck route then you can only conclude that there is no way the red head would see Ashe's dick as big. To be fair you don't see that, nor is it hinted at in the siren route. Just thought it was a little funny seeing the difference.

In the scene with Fiona the sub route gets an option to suck her dick or keep jerking her. Then Ashe gets fucked in the pussy. In the dom route Ashe just straight up gets fucked in the pussy. There is no player choice here either. On Fiona's route? Believe it or not, fucked in the pussy.

So in conclusion:

There is far less player agency than in previous episodes, the entire episode is written from a sub base point. Making Ashe act as if she had chosen that door. So you basically get the sub path with some dom flavour text here and there and you get to fuck Lexi.

If your choice was Siren, then you now drove off a cliff just as you were ramping up. And now you have to climb back out before you can continue the path. That is basically what it feels like to me, and as such doesn't gel with the previous episodes.
 

Limina_Leaker

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I went and checked for you, but for you to be able to interact with Lexi you need to be on either the Cuck route or the Siren route. Otherwise you're at the cop's flat, and even if you run away you won't go to the beach. When you're on the cuck route you drop of Rachel and then scamper off to the beach. Where you then get cucked (?) by the bar lady, which is a little weird as Lexi acts far too shy around Ashe already to suddenly be going down on the bar lady like that.

Not sure if it should count as cucking, as you haven't really made a move on Lexi. But I'll leave that to the cuckishists.




Hopefully you're not letting my disappointment with the Siren route paint all the routes in a negative light? Don't assume because I don't like it no one will. I'm heavily biased towards a dom path, as anything else just isn't my cup of tea. The dom route just isn't executed well or properly implemented enough for me to enjoy. This is probably because the overall story arc is veering in a sub/cuck direction, the story beats align with those routes*. If you enjoy either of those routes, you really ought to give it a fair shake.

* I am of the opinion that even within the story so far a dom route could have been worked in better.
The criticism is warranted though. Why the hell would you have a dom/aggressive option only to have the character act otherwise?
 

JM24

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From what yall been saying I feel like the division of paths is offered a bit too soon...should have waited for another two updates before we get to choose a path...and the siren path certainly needs some fine tuning.
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But other than that if you're on the Kitten path this update is 5 out of 5.
 

MorallyLucky

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The criticism is warranted though. Why the hell would you have a dom/aggressive option only to have the character act otherwise?
Because it would be jarring to see a character who was afraid of her own shadow a chapter ago turn into a hard dom overnight. People didn't like that I said Ashe is meek by nature last time and now people are shocked that the story is portraying exactly that.
 

JM24

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Another explanation is perhaps people are confusing the Siren path with the dom path. Sirens come from Greek mythology, and they are basically master seductresses with their voice. So Ashe becoming a "siren" might not mean she becomes the "top" or the "giver", but rather someone who knows how to use her appeal to her ends. In that case she can still act timid and unresolved. Just a wild guess though, so don't be so sure about it.
 
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Vernalcash

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Because it would be jarring to see a character who was afraid of her own shadow a chapter ago turn into a hard dom overnight. People didn't like that I said Ashe is meek by nature last time and now people are shocked that the story is portraying exactly that.
I agree that Ashe needs time to embrace the changes that are required to make a dom path belivable, but from what I'm reading, as I haven't played the update, Ashe is not even taking a first step in that direction. It looks like Morrigan might have bitten more than she can chew making 3 paths. I guess we have to wait and see.
 

RoamingZone

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Because it would be jarring to see a character who was afraid of her own shadow a chapter ago turn into a hard dom overnight. People didn't like that I said Ashe is meek by nature last time and now people are shocked that the story is portraying exactly that.
I'm backing this opinion it would be weird to see a timid character go from 0 to 100% and be dominant from the get go, dev probably will take his/her time developing this one we have seen Ashe have some brave moments in the game so in this case we will have to wait and see how this one goes.
 
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JM24

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I agree that Ashe needs time to embrace the changes that are required to make a dom path belivable, but from what I'm reading, as I haven't played the update, Ashe is not even taking a first step in that direction. It looks like Morrigan might have bitten more than she can chew making 3 paths. I guess we have to wait and see.
True that's why I think a lil bit of fine-tuning would make it 100x better.

Suggestions for the fine-tune:
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Vernalcash

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And this is completely legit, because we have dom points, sub points and cuck points in game
And you need dom points for siren path
And the "vision/dream" Ashe has at the end of ch4 where the girls are "worshiping" her, the spirit of the route seems to be more dom than anything else.
 
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Limina_Leaker

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Because it would be jarring to see a character who was afraid of her own shadow a chapter ago turn into a hard dom overnight. People didn't like that I said Ashe is meek by nature last time and now people are shocked that the story is portraying exactly that.
Having a Hard time did it with the most recent update. Although it was certainly out of character, the locker scene with the 2 girls was awesome. Better than anything I've seen in this game combined.
 

JM24

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Having a Hard time did it with the most recent update. Although it was certainly out of character, the locker scene with the 2 girls was awesome. Better than anything I've seen in this game combined.
Well there you go then. It's about if you prefer illogical sensual fucking or natural character development. That said I do agree the siren path needs some fine-tuning. Wouldn't need to change much but just some slight adjustments here and there.
 

Doner077

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Great update, as a cuck route main i am pleased with the content that it got. I played the other routes too and they are a nice additon to my experience. My small compiants would be these 2 things:
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