VN Ren'Py Eruption Imminent [v0.5.1] [MorriganRae]

[doovel]

Because it would be jarring to see a character who was afraid of her own shadow a chapter ago turn into a hard dom overnight. People didn't like that I said Ashe is meek by nature last time and now people are shocked that the story is portraying exactly that.

Except that she's meeker in this chapter than she was in the previous chapters. As laid out by my comment above. In spoilers of course. There are several events in the previous chapters where Ashe can choose a more dom option. In this chapter there is only Do you want to fuck Lexi yay or nah and "ask for a blowjob" that gets denied

Her stutter has been dialled up to eleven, again like I laid out in my previous comment. She is now base sub path that is meeker and far less fiery than she was prior to getting the 3 path options.

Once you've played this chapter, replay the previous ones. I'm really curious if you'd still think she was meeker before.

Well there you go then. It's about if you prefer illogical sensual fucking or natural character development. That said I do agree the siren path needs some fine-tuning. Wouldn't need to change much but just some slight adjustments here and there.

Just because it's slow or non-existent doesn't mean it's automatically logical or natural. If the MC started acting more confident or at least trying, I'd agree with you. But as it currently stands it's beyond just fine tuning. Most of the dialogue would need to be hauled over to start being believable for the siren route. As it's not just Ashe speaking differently, the other characters would be reacting differently to her as well.

Like I can understand if that's too much work, as it would require renders with different expressions from both Ashe and whoever she's interacting with.

The only reasonable alternative I can think of would be a more neutral path that can branch into dom, sub and cuck. At least when it comes to development time.

Even HAHT had more build up with the internal dialogue for the dom route. It's not a bolt out of the blue, though it is a heavy shift.

 

[MagicMan753]

Dang, so I guess Lexi is siren exclusive. Little upsetting cause kitten is my preferred path, and she was like the only other girl I wanted on this route, since I know all the main girls will be on all routes. She feels like the one left out for me. Little disappointed with this. I was going to pay today since I just did a replay, but after this info, I l'll just wait instead and may even skip this update entirely now.

 

[JM24]

Have you played the update? Regarding what you've written for option 1 here one of those things does happen.

Yes but I only played the Kitten route. My knowledge on the Siren path is completely based on the comments I read here. Could you tell me which one of my suggestions does occur?

 

[doovel]

Have you played the update? Regarding what you've written for option 1 here one of those things does happen.

Considering their answer is:

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This could be what they gathered from my messages, as I laid this out as what happened. Except for two.

The problem isn't the concept, it lies in the execution. She'd need to act different and she'd need to think differently. The dialogue is mostly the same no matter the path. That is the problem.

With point 3:
that could be an option, but she'd also need to change her inner dialogue. She'd need to start to try planning. To try and set up traps. Attempt to coax more information out of the blackmailer. She does literally none of that.

Importantly, when she gets the plug. She just shoves it up her ass. If you want her to dom route to make sense, she wouldn't first shove it up there to then get an option to remove it afterwards.


With point 1:

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For point 2:

Ashe essentially accidentally stands up for herself by catching the selfie stick of the influencer and then filming the influencer's wet pussy. Not at satisfying. As it's not an action she takes, it's something that passively happens to her.

Yes but I only played the Kitten route. My knowledge on the Siren path is completely based on the comments I read here. Could you tell me which one of my suggestions does occur?

I put in the context in the spoilers including my opinion about those events.

 

[JM24]

But as it currently stands it's beyond just fine tuning. Most of the dialogue would need to be hauled over to start being believable for the siren route.

Well it's up to the dev then. That would take a lot more time and we will have to wait a lot longer for another update.

 

[lorkdubo]

The best example I got from meek to more confidence that's akin to this game is Confusion. Alex, the MC from confusion goes from a 1/10 to a 9/10 in confidence, but it did take 1 chapter. I still haven't played this episode but Ashe need a makeover in the siren path that would help bring her the confidence she needs.

 

[doovel]

Well it's up to the dev then. That would take a lot more time and we will have to wait a lot longer for another update.

Yes, that's why I mentioned the alternative of staying neutral as the main path, and then having dom-sub-cuck branching off.

To be clear, I think the dev thinks that is what he's doing. The dialogue doesn't support that, the dev likely started with the sub route and then tried to tag on dom and cuck afterwards. With cuck that can work, with dom you're dealing with a polar opposite. It can't work.

Finally everything is ultimately up to the dev, it's their game. I'm not here to dictate what they must do. I'm here to critique and discuss my issues with the route and game in general. If the dev doesn't care for it, that's their prerogative.

 

[JM24]

Yes, that's why I mentioned the alternative of staying neutral as the main path, and then having dom-sub-cuck branching off.

To be clear, I think the dev thinks that is what he's doing. The dialogue doesn't support that, the dev likely started with the sub route and then tried to tag on dom and cuck afterwards. With cuck that can work, with dom you're dealing with a polar opposite. It can't work.

Finally everything is ultimately up to the dev, it's their game. I'm not here to dictate what they must do. I'm here to critique and discuss my issues with the route and game in general. If the dev doesn't care for it, that's their prerogative.

I'm sure they will listen. I'd personally like to see shorter updates with shorter waiting time. Ideally the next update can just include the Saturday party with three different paths. Hopefully they take into account what you said about the dialogue and choices in the Siren path.

 

[MagicMan753]

doovel. Since you checked that, did you check one other thing, I know Zoey shows up, on siren you have sex, and I think cuck she sleeps with other girl, do you also do something with Zoey on Kitten route, this is last question, thanks for answering my questions so far.

 

[JM24]

doovel. Since you checked that, did you check one other thing, I know Zoey shows up, on siren you have sex, and I think cuck she sleeps with other girl, do you also do something with Zoey on Kitten route, this is last question, thanks for answering my questions so far.

On the Kitten path

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[doovel]

doovel. Since you checked that, did you check one other thing, I know Zoey shows up, on siren you have sex, and I think cuck she sleeps with other girl, do you also do something with Zoey on Kitten route, this is last question, thanks for answering my questions so far.

It's not an intercourse scene, you see her on cam on all paths, all three play out quite differently. The dialogue is also completely different for the three routes.

I'm sure they will listen. I'd personally like to see shorter updates with shorter waiting time. Ideally the next update can just include the Saturday party with three different paths. Hopefully they take into account what you said about the dialogue and choices in the Siren path.

Honestly the dev would be wise to wait, save it for in a week or two. It's not nice to read harsh criticism shortly after releasing your project. Something that you've been working hard on for months.

 

[Dr. Mick]

In this episode the places where you should be able to make decisions are skipped and you're just forced to go along with whatever the dev has decided as necessary for the plot.

Except that she's meeker in this chapter than she was in the previous chapters. As laid out by my comment above. In spoilers of course. There are several events in the previous chapters where Ashe can choose a more dom option.

I was afraid something like this might happen. From how things seemed to be leaning, the poll, and some of the views expressed, it looked like the Siren path was going to be underserved.
It would be perfectly fine with me if, after going through the initial choices, you get to the path choice and then your choices going forward are drastically limited.
The idea being that once you have chosen to be on a particular path, the story you will see is based upon that choice. However, in order for that to work, there has to be content in each path that is true to that path.

The problem, as you pointed out, is that anything but the Kitten path lacks development, despite it only being 7% higher than the Siren path in the poll.
Considering how big a deal was made out of the choice of separate paths, there should be an equal amount of relevant story for each, and it should be distinct.
Otherwise, the dev may as well declare that the Kitten path is the canon/main route, and that there will be smaller side content for Siren and Cuckquean.
Basically eliminating the importance of the path choice, since that's how it appears right now anyway. That would, of course, be perfectly okay, as long as it was made clear that was the intent.

That way people who are not interested in submissive content, or people who want more agency over their choices and impact to the path they choose, won't feel disappointed or that they are wasting their time.
Oh well, guess we'll see in an update or two if the Siren route improves. Perhaps this update was simply focused more on the Kitten route, and in future updates we'll get something more for the other paths.
If not, then I suppose this project isn't for people who prefer to be dominant vs submissive, and it will be time to move on.
Time will tell.

 

[Johan_0000]

I was going to pay today since I just did a replay, but after this info, I l'll just wait instead and may even skip this update entirely now.

I think I'll do the same. I would rather drop a game and have a good memory of it than continue and hate the way it's become.
So yeah wise words I think I'll skip this update too and see where the dev/s is heading.
Thankfully we still got HAHT lol. Still I'll miss this game if the path is abandoned


There's smt that's been ticking me though. Some ppl keep saying that Ash can't go from super shy, submissive to dom in an instant but guys, a lot of decisions we made like putting twin's b1tch friend in her place raging at Cleao, Telling blondie off when she overstepped the line (atleast for those who played dom way)... led us to this moment, the crossroad.
I believe that the 3 paths were there to prove that. Some paths were even locked if you leaned on the dominant side. SO yeah, stop with that excuse AND if you rly think that then ask yourself the right question.
Why would dev/s make these super important choices right at that moment? If he/they didn't think his character was ready. Like smn said, if that's the case he should've just waited another update b4 proposing the choice.




THX

 

[doovel]

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Should just re-label the routes housecat - kitten - pygmy mouse. At least that sets expectations right.

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There's smt that's been ticking me though. Some ppl keep saying that Ash can't go from super shy, submissive to dom in an instant but guys, a lot of decisions we made like putting twin's b1tch friend in her place raging at Cleao, Telling blondie off when she overstepped the line (atleast for those who played dom way)... led us to this moment, the crossroad.
I believe that the 3 paths were there to prove that. Some paths were even locked if you leaned on the dominant side. SO yeah, stop with that excuse AND if you rly think that then ask yourself the right question.
Why would dev/s make these super important choices right at that moment? If he/they didn't think his character was ready. Like smn said, if that's the case he should've just waited another update b4 proposing the choice.

THX

Yeah I thought I was going a little insane, I created an entire list of actions and choices Ashe does or the player can make in the previous episodes that are all much more on the dominant side than what we get in this episode.

You're absolutely right that based on the choices you made in the previous episodes Ashe was already past the start.

 

[MagicMan753]

It is with a sadden heart that I am moving on from this game. With the decision of having Lexi be exclusive to the siren path. She was rhe last one I wnated on the my preferred route, the kitten route. Some may call this minor, but to me this ruined the game and my enjoyment. I was so looking forward to see where these relationships go like rachel, delliah, and other, but I guess I won't. Locking Lexi to a path that I don't want to play ruined this game.
Yesterday I said no update could be a disappointment, well I guess I was wrong, this one update has ruined this game and my mood for today. I am saddened but I can't get over the decison to not get, literally the last girl I wanted to complete my kitten route.

 

[Braga96]

It is with a sadden heart that I am moving on from this game. With the decision of having Lexi be exclusive to the siren path. She was rhe last one I wnated on the my preferred route, the kitten route. Some may call this minor, but to me this ruined the game and my enjoyment. I was so looking forward to see where these relationships go like rachel, delliah, and other, but I guess I won't. Locking Lexi to a path that I don't want to play ruined this game.
Yesterday I said no update could be a disappointment, well I guess I was wrong, this one update has ruined this game and my mood for today. I am saddened but I can't get over the decison to not get, literally the last girl I wanted to complete my kitten route.

Why you have to make a big announcement?

 

[MagicMan753]

Why you have to make a big announcement?

Free forum, I can do what I want.

 

[AxelRadon]

no progression with Evelyn. Not even a little bit

I haven't played this episode yet, but if it's true, then it sucks. I was REALLY looking forward to the continuation of her story.

 

[W4lz23]

Damn guys, I was anxious for someone release the game but now I'm scared

 

[ScholarOfTheFirstSin]

is the update really really that bad?
damn....