Kontralta

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Its called sexual harassment or it this case a prelude to a rape. I think most people here don't understand what being dom or sub means. Most dev also don't. The main thing in any Dom/Sub dynamic is consent. Without consent it literally boils down to sexual molestation and rape.
Ashe have a choice. She can refuse, or she can agree. Either way, there is no rape, and no prelude to rape.
 

Ciaran8023

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I suspect that next update we'll actually see a decent bit of development towards that. A horny Ashe drugged up on aphrodisiacs in a house with a bunch of hot chicks, many of whom are already pretty interested in her? I get the feeling that the siren and cuck players are gonna be eating well at that party.
Also wouldn't be surprised if Ashe gets so fucked up that her blackmailer loses all the dirt she has on her.
Genuinely speaking, if the party somehow ends up being this off-the-wall gangbang then I think the dev might alienate a lot of people since it's such an absurd escalation of events compared to everything thus far. How would you resolve that situation? Where would you go after that? The drug doesn't exactly erase memories either so now you've potentially entangled a LOT of people into some sort of Pythagoras' abomination of intimacy.

Moreover, what you do while under the influence especially when you also remember it, will have the exact opposite of progress for someone like Ashe who's basically dealing with trauma and the absolute anxiety of someone finding out what she is, she's been emotionally distancing herself from everyone for years to the point where I would suspect that she's extremely afraid of being judged - meaning that if she remembers herself acting like a "futachad" while under the influence, it's likely that she'll shut herself in and avoid people after that.

So yeah, I don't actually feel like that kind of development would actually be good for the story, it would just be another notch in the "hey Ashe is a punching bag, let's fuck with her some more" that the story has been doing a LOT of thus far. For each small win, she's taking multiple L's and that tends to get extremely tiresome.

I seriously want the nonsense Rapist Cop and the Blackmailer route to end so that Ashe can have decent confident relationships and not live like she is treading on broken glass every single day. That is the reason why I chose Siren path. Its so difficult to get a Futa game with a dominant protagonist. I have found only two Instinct Unleashed and Having a Hard Time. This game has several good portions but those two routes are seriously pissing me off.
You might be waiting for a long time in that case. Ashe is naturally very non-confrontational due to her mental health issues, so you'll likely have to deal with those routes for a long ass time given that the dev tends to do things their way.
 

Alucard421

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Ashe have a choice. She can refuse, or she can agree. Either way, there is no rape, and no prelude to rape.
Oh wow I can't believe I found Rape apologists and Sexual Harassment apologists in this thread. When someone sexually harasses someone, the victim mostly don't have a choice. You wouldn't understand the situation that particular scene invokes because it isn't a trigger for you. That shit isn't even optional because that Rapist cop and Blackmailer are fucking inherent to this game story and not optional like the Cuck route. And there is no fucking agreement in a sexual harassment. Its called a coercion, but I shouldn't expect any better from Rape Apologists or Sexual harassment Apologists.
 

Alucard421

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Genuinely speaking, if the party somehow ends up being this off-the-wall gangbang then I think the dev might alienate a lot of people since it's such an absurd escalation of events compared to everything thus far. How would you resolve that situation? Where would you go after that? The drug doesn't exactly erase memories either so now you've potentially entangled a LOT of people into some sort of Pythagoras' abomination of intimacy.

Moreover, what you do while under the influence especially when you also remember it, will have the exact opposite of progress for someone like Ashe who's basically dealing with trauma and the absolute anxiety of someone finding out what she is, she's been emotionally distancing herself from everyone for years to the point where I would suspect that she's extremely afraid of being judged - meaning that if she remembers herself acting like a "futachad" while under the influence, it's likely that she'll shut herself in and avoid people after that.

So yeah, I don't actually feel like that kind of development would actually be good for the story, it would just be another notch in the "hey Ashe is a punching bag, let's fuck with her some more" that the story has been doing a LOT of thus far. For each small win, she's taking multiple L's and that tends to get extremely tiresome.



You might be waiting for a long time in that case. Ashe is naturally very non-confrontational due to her mental health issues, so you'll likely have to deal with those routes for a long ass time given that the dev tends to do things their way.
Of course. The NTR route is optional yet the Rapist Cop and Blackmailer portion of the game is mandatory. If it weren't lack of Futa Protagonists game, I would have second guessed about this game. But since I like 80% of this game, I have to live with these fucking triggers mandatory in this game.
 

Kontralta

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Oh wow I can't believe I found Rape apologists and Sexual Harassment apologists in this thread. When someone sexually harasses someone, the victim mostly don't have a choice. You wouldn't understand the situation that particular scene invokes because it isn't a trigger for you. That shit isn't even optional because that Rapist cop and Blackmailer are fucking inherent to this game story and not optional like the Cuck route. And there is no fucking agreement in a sexual harassment. Its called a coercion, but I shouldn't expect any better from Rape Apologists or Sexual harassment Apologists.
You are writing nonsense. Firstly, you have confused a porn game with real life, in a porn game rape and harassment are normal things. Secondly, there is no rape in this game, and harassment can be answered with a refusal.
 

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This game looks so promising if it weren't for the futa content.

Don't get me wrong - I know this is other peoples' cup of tea.

Honestly this is a compliment - the art is great, the humor (from the little I played) was great, the dialogue was good.

Just not a futa dude. :3 Regardless, keep up the solid work, dev.
 

Alucard421

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You are writing nonsense. Firstly, you have confused a porn game with real life, in a porn game rape and harassment are normal things. Secondly, there is no rape in this game, and harassment can be answered with a refusal.
Like I said, rape apologists and sexual harassment apologists are really good at giving excuses for rape and sexual harassment. Nobody told you to respond. There are several portions of the game that I like and the portions I dont like, I showed my disappointment. But you really have to jump in defense of a rapist cop. That just says it all.
 

Kontralta

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Like I said, rape apologists and sexual harassment apologists are really good at giving excuses for rape and sexual harassment. Nobody told you to respond. There are several portions of the game that I like and the portions I dont like, I showed my disappointment. But you really have to jump in defense of a rapist cop. That just says it all.
Like I said, there is no rape in the game, and harassment can be answered with a refusal. I also said that rape and harassment are normal for a porn game. But you do not want to read this and continue to write nonsense and put angry emoticons, oh, I feel so bad about this of course. You forgot to call me a troll.
 

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Like I said, rape apologists and sexual harassment apologists are really good at giving excuses for rape and sexual harassment. Nobody told you to respond. There are several portions of the game that I like and the portions I dont like, I showed my disappointment. But you really have to jump in defense of a rapist cop. That just says it all.
Yeah like the other guy said no rape, plus its optional so don't know why you are complaining.

You can't seem to seperate game from real life.
 
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Alucard421

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Yeah like the other guy said no rape, plus its optional so don't know why you are complaining.
But with the way you talk you must be having sex with your family members in real life, since you can't seperate game from real life.
Oh look another one. I expressed my disappointment with the Rapist cop and Blackmailer. The other one didn't have to come to the defense of the actions of a Rapist cop. Because it somehow hurt them that I complained about a portion of the game I didn't like. And now others just like them are popping in.
 

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Like I said, there is no rape in the game, and harassment can be answered with a refusal. I also said that rape and harassment are normal for a porn game. But you do not want to read this and continue to write nonsense and put angry emoticons, oh, I feel so bad about this of course. You forgot to call me a troll.
Why would I call you a troll? Your intentions are pretty clear. You are willing to defend a rapist. Hell the last scene of the game represents how the rapist cop is thinking about the entire situation. If you refuse her approach in her home while maid scene, she runs behind you like a rapist and stops because there was someone else. She calls Ashe a cocksleeve. So after all this, even after Ashe has said no multiple times, she is still trying to assault and rape her. And you came in their defense.
 

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I seriously want the nonsense Rapist Cop and the Blackmailer route to end so that Ashe can have decent confident relationships and not live like she is treading on broken glass every single day. That is the reason why I chose Siren path. Its so difficult to get a Futa game with a dominant protagonist. I have found only two Instinct Unleashed and Having a Hard Time. This game has several good portions but those two routes are seriously pissing me off.
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Alucard421

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Yeah like the other guy said no rape, plus its optional so don't know why you are complaining.
But with the way you talk you must be having sex with your family members in real life, cause this game has incest, and you can't seem to seperate game from real life.
Is it optional? Even after saying a firm No at the Gym, the Rapist cop still tries to sexually harass and if you completely tell her off, describes you as cocksleeve and decides to ruin your life, calling Ashe a cunt, then its not optional. Its an inherent part of the story. And the Dev loves to dump even sexual trauma on Ashe, as if her unresolved trauma with her mentor's death isn't enough.
 

Ciaran8023

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Is it optional? Even after saying a firm No at the Gym, the Rapist cop still tries to sexually harass and if you completely tell her off, describes you as cocksleeve and decides to ruin your life, calling Ashe a cunt, then its not optional. Its an inherent part of the story. And the Dev loves to dump even sexual trauma on Ashe, as if her unresolved trauma with her mentor's death isn't enough.
Honestly, this is the biggest gripe I have with the game that I've also noted on before and the dev did reply to it, is that Ashe takes a LOT of fucking L's in this game. Like unbelievably so, she just keeps getting beaten down and the few victories she does have feels hollow and unsatisfying compared to the shit that's served to her.

It gets very tiresome and grinds my gears a bit.
 

Kontralta

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Why would I call you a troll? Your intentions are pretty clear. You are willing to defend a rapist. Hell the last scene of the game represents how the rapist cop is thinking about the entire situation. If you refuse her approach in her home while maid scene, she runs behind you like a rapist and stops because there was someone else. She calls Ashe a cocksleeve. So after all this, even after Ashe has said no multiple times, she is still trying to assault and rape her. And you came in their defense.
First of all, what's wrong with all this? It's normal for a porn game. Even rape is normal for a porn game. Yes, I defend it, why not? It's not real life.
Secondly, Natasha is not trying to rape Ashe at all, if she was, she would do it, it's easy for her. She wants to seduce her, which is different. Yes, she does it roughly, but it's not rape and not a prelude to rape. And Ashe can refuse it.
 

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Honestly, this is the biggest gripe I have with the game that I've also noted on before and the dev did reply to it, is that Ashe takes a LOT of fucking L's in this game. Like unbelievably so, she just keeps getting beaten down and the few victories she does have feels hollow and unsatisfying compared to the shit that's served to her.

It gets very tiresome and grinds my gears a bit.
Thank you so much. It feels awful. The only route I am genuinely liking is the Fiona one.And that the Rapist cop and Blackmailer has to be mandatory is just infuriating. I think I have a fondness for best friends becoming partners, just like Marianne in Having a hard time.
 

Alucard421

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First of all, what's wrong with all this? It's normal for a porn game. Even rape is normal for a porn game. Yes, I defend it, why not? It's not real life.
Secondly, Natasha is not trying to rape Ashe at all, if she was, she would do it, it's easy for her. She wants to seduce her, which is different. Yes, she does it roughly, but it's not rape and not a prelude to rape. And Ashe can refuse it.
Showing your dick to someone is seduction? What kind of world do you come from? Natasha could have tried to seduce her normally without doing inappropriate touching or sexual harassment. She could have tried normal seduction and Ashe would have been into her. Since when does sexual harassment considered seduction? Is there some Cave society that I am unaware of where Sexual harassment is considered seduction and not a fucking crime?
 

Ciaran8023

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Thank you so much. It feels awful. The only route I am genuinely liking is the Fiona one.And that the Rapist cop and Blackmailer has to be mandatory is just infuriating. I think I have a fondness for best friends becoming partners, just like Marianne in Having a hard time.
Friends to partners is a tried and true trope, you generally become friends with someone because you're compatible, and the scenario is something one can relate to.
I personally like the Marianne angle in HaHT more than Fiona since I feel like the MC and Marianne has more of an intimate/touchy type of relationship to begin with compared to Ashe and Fiona where it feels more like a bro-mance type of deal.

But yeah, mandatory non-consent is something that I have a very hard time to accept, I mainly just keep playing this as there aren't that many high-quality futa games out there and the overall quality is good enough for me to want to see where things go, even though I hate both blackmail and "dom" characters that just use coercion and sexual assault.
 
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