VN Ren'Py Eruption Imminent [v0.5.1] [MorriganRae]

[Dessolos]

I will never understand people who want to jerk off with NV, just watch porn or hentai, that's it, everything is to the point and that's it, you don't even have to know what the hell is going on, or it's so obvious that you don't even need to read.

yeah same I mean I do understand wanting to fap to it after getting worked up from some hot scenes and what not. But to want to play these for a fap on purpose i'll never get

 

[Ciaran8023]

Do you have an answer by chance? I'm very curious what the Dev says about it.

IIRC they only stated that they'll take it into consideration and will try to balance it. Though this was back after update 3 launch so like.. over a year ago or something, so don't fully quote me on it, but I am pretty certain about the general gist of the reply.

I hate it that most devs don't understand the entire Dom-Sub mechanism. The first rule of Dom Sub mechanics is consent. Without consent it literally leans towards sexual assault. We can a proper relationship then one can determine the Dom Sub mechanics between them. Like the guy before me said, somehow showing your dick to someone is considered seduction and not sexual harassment. And still trying to harass someone after they say no is akin to sexual assault. we can have proper Dom Sub in a proper relation ship but nope it always boils down to literal sexual harassment.

I hate it whether the MC is doing this shit or it is being done to them.

Yeah, you're pretty much preaching to the choir here, I've left a LOT of comments on games where devs try to implement femdom and it's just non-avoidable blackmail and sexual assault, and it's honestly just extremely disappointing at this point. While dom/sub is not entirely my preference, if it's well written then it can be extremely hot and also very interesting from a relationship and power dynamic point of view, but there are so many devs out there that are entirely clueless about this.

That being said, as I posted a few pages back, rapecop seemingly is just geared as "dominant" in that sexual assault and blackmail type of way rather than actually being a dom character by design.. which is a bit disappointing aswell, see far too many of these sorts of characters in games I feel like.

I will never understand people who want to jerk off with NV, just watch porn or hentai, that's it, everything is to the point and that's it, you don't even have to know what the hell is going on, or it's so obvious that you don't even need to read.

That's true, though honestly, VN's can end up being a lot more satisfying of a fap if you find that one scenario that just clicks with you, or if you get into the characters. I've literally got games that I've redownloaded just because certain scenes and most importantly the buildup to the scenes were hot as fuck, so eh. Suppose I do understand people that mainly fap to VN's, but as someone pointed out, it seems weird to require scenes in the first or second updates at that point.

 

[Birdnman993]

IIRC they only stated that they'll take it into consideration and will try to balance it. Though this was back after update 3 launch so like.. over a year ago or something, so don't fully quote me on it, but I am pretty certain about the general gist of the reply.

wow so if it were up to Dev Ashe I would be more miserable? hahahahahaha god that's funny and sad at the same time.

Although I personally don't think Ashe has had it all that bad, it's not that she's exactly having a great time but it's not that bad either, she feels like any ordinary person dealing with everyday problems.

 

[Alucard421]

wow so if it were up to Dev Ashe I would be more miserable? hahahahahaha god that's funny and sad at the same time.

Although I personally don't think Ashe has had it all that bad, it's not that she's exactly having a great time but it's not that bad either, she feels like any ordinary person dealing with everyday problems.

Wait ordinary people have people flashing their cock at them in gyms?

 

[Alucard421]

IIRC they only stated that they'll take it into consideration and will try to balance it. Though this was back after update 3 launch so like.. over a year ago or something, so don't fully quote me on it, but I am pretty certain about the general gist of the reply.


Yeah, you're pretty much preaching to the choir here, I've left a LOT of comments on games where devs try to implement femdom and it's just non-avoidable blackmail and sexual assault, and it's honestly just extremely disappointing at this point. While dom/sub is not entirely my preference, if it's well written then it can be extremely hot and also very interesting from a relationship and power dynamic point of view, but there are so many devs out there that are entirely clueless about this.

That being said, as I posted a few pages back, rapecop seemingly is just geared as "dominant" in that sexual assault and blackmail type of way rather than actually being a dom character by design.. which is a bit disappointing aswell, see far too many of these sorts of characters in games I feel like.


That's true, though honestly, VN's can end up being a lot more satisfying of a fap if you find that one scenario that just clicks with you, or if you get into the characters. I've literally got games that I've redownloaded just because certain scenes and most importantly the buildup to the scenes were hot as fuck, so eh. Suppose I do understand people that mainly fap to VN's, but as someone pointed out, it seems weird to require scenes in the first or second updates at that point.

This exact kind of Futa character was in another Futa game called The Red Room. Futa, butch built body type cop who was also giving a rapist vibe. Its like most dev can't get over some stereotype, like if the character is built, they are probably rapists, or like a Black Guy's purpose in erotica is to be the dude NTRing others, especially a white dude. Not once have I seen a game with a black protagonist or a Black guy being a genuine lovable charismatic person. And if some game there are Black futa, 80% of the time they give rapist vibes.

 

[Ciaran8023]

wow so if it were up to Dev Ashe I would be more miserable? hahahahahaha god that's funny and sad at the same time.

Although I personally don't think Ashe has had it all that bad, it's not that she's exactly having a great time but it's not that bad either, she feels like any ordinary person dealing with everyday problems.

That's fair, it could be worse, but there's also a lot of things she's going through that she didn't really deserve.
Rachel for example, she knows that Ashe has some serious mental health issues that are mainly revolving around anxiety as Rachel was the person basically looking after Ashe for the longest time, yet she flipped her shit despite knowing this and ended up essentially ruining their relationship. I still feel like their little meeting and make up feels cheap compared to how much Ashe must have suffered losing her one rock in life that she could depend on, as even if Fiona is a good friend, it wasn't to the level of Rachel.
Then you have her getting constantly picked on by Isabella who has some extremely questionable morals.
Then you have Vanessa using Ashe as a drug mule and dragging her into a "date" that ended with Ashe getting potentially humiliated by taking a random cumshot to the face.
Then you have Zoey being weirdly manipulative and seemingly focused on fucking Ashe even though Ashe wasn't exactly comfortable with it until the very last moment.

I can pull up some more examples but the general gist is that every character in this game (besides Fiona I guess) just uses Ashe for their own ends and goals, to their own whim, none of them actually respects her as a human being or someone with emotions, her sister being especially bad given that she tried to come back and just pretend that nothing happened, and then their make up felt very shallow on top of that.

So yeah, things could be "worse" in that she could be in worse scenarios, but it's hard to say that things could be worse in regards to the people she interacts with.

This exact kind of Futa character was in another Futa game called The Red Room. Futa, butch built body type cop who was also giving a rapist vibe. Its like most dev can't get over some stereotype, like if the character is built, they are probably rapists, or like a Black Guy's purpose in erotica is to be the dude NTRing others, especially a white dude. Not once have I seen a game with a black protagonist or a Black guy being a genuine lovable charismatic person. And if some game there are Black futa, 80% of the time they give rapist vibes.

It's intriguing that you mention this as I am pretty sure this game is inspired by The Red Room, though I've personally never played it.
And yeah, devs tend to fall into tropes exceedingly hard unfortunately, which does tend to sour games for me more often than not. I also feel like most devs just simply don't understand the difference between a dominant character and a dom.
Hell, they don't really understand the difference between a dominant character and a rapist dipshit, as a well written dominant character tends to be more respectful but take no shit.

 

[Birdnman993]

Wait ordinary people have people flashing their cock at them in gyms?

It depends on who you ask, yes.

Once, while working in a supermarket taking inventory of merchandise with someone else, the topic of hair removal came up and he showed me how he had shaved down there. To this day, I don't understand why someone would show me that.

 

[Doner077]

I will never understand people who want to jerk off with NV, just watch porn or hentai

You while mc was getting dicked down by fiona

 

[Alucard421]

It depends on who you ask, yes.

Once, while working in a supermarket taking inventory of merchandise with someone else, the topic of hair removal came up and he showed me how he had shaved down there. To this day, I don't understand why someone would show me that.

Oh my god. I am sorry for reminding you this. yeah I forget how shitty this world has become.

 

[Ciaran8023]

Honestly, it is entertaining reading all these dumb comments with people unable to seperate game from life, complaining about optional content, and saying all the characters are using ashe and not good.

I swear all the idiots decided to all show up tonight.

I mean it's a pretty easy thing to understand, a relationship of any kind is give and take, if you're in a relationship where things are only taken from you, that is someone using you.
If you do not understand this then I am sorry that the relationships you've been in have been at the hands of selfish individuals.

If you want me to elaborate a bit (all based on 0.4 still as I have yet to play 0.5);
Rachel tried to completely ignore the situation and only complied with Ashe when aggressively confronted, and even then it came off more as an apology to appease her sense of guilt and not because she actually understood how her actions affected Ashe.
Isabelle takes advantage of being best friends with Rachel to continuously pick on Ashe even though she clearly understands where Ashe's boundaries lie and what buttons she needs to press to get Ashe to feel like shit.
Zoey decided to be very sexually aggressive and manipulative in order to get Ashe's dick. That is not an equivalent trade.
Vanessa coerced Ashe to become a drug mule, as let's face it Ashe couldn't really turn down someone with a lot of fucking cash and influence, and then subjected her to a very uncomfortable date. Unless you argue that a potential cumshot to the face is sufficient "give" to Ashe.
Kate decided to objectify Ashe for her own pleasure since there sure as hell weren't any mutual pleasure being had there.
Rapecop, I mean I don't think I have to elaborate on that.
Delilah and Fiona are basically the only examples where Ashe actually gets something decent out of being involved with them, what with Fiona being an emotional support and Delilah atleast trying to take things slowly.

It isn't my fault that you do not understand the basics of a relationship, nor is it my obligation to educate you on this as you seem completely adverse to rational thought.

 

[Alucard421]

I mean it's a pretty easy thing to understand, a relationship of any kind is give and take, if you're in a relationship where things are only taken from you, that is someone using you.
If you do not understand this then I am sorry that the relationships you've been in have been at the hands of selfish individuals.

Well since most of the Male Protagonists game use this kind of logic where the Male protagonist take everything they want without giving anything back and are considered dominant, you can expect the same from those who are saturated playing those kind of games. The person didn't have to reply to my comment defending the rapist cop, but they felt offended when I complained about it and they stuck to it.

 

[Dessolos]

lol I just realized I missed another rape cop conversation. Well to me yeah she isn't a rape cop technically speaking but she gives off those vibes that I still call her rape cop.

 

[Johan_0000]

I mean, that being said, it would make sense for her to go completely FUTACHAD.
The reason behind that is that Ashe is a bundle of neurotic anxiety from an early age with a lot of trauma behind it, even beginning to change something like that would likely take a year or so of therapy, at which point it's much easier for people like that to flip to the extreme end of the spectrum and basically roleplay as someone else, because she doesn't really have a healthy way of scaling the process of "chadhood" for lack of a better term.

In that it'd be more exact to say she'd develop a sort of 2nd persona when her switch is flipped (angry, super stressed). Like we saw even b4 the crossroad choice, when in those situations she'd be a lot more "confident", not taking bs from others...
It's true that ppl wanted to see Fiona being penetrated, I agree with you that for the current Mc it'd be weird, however the difference is ppl expected to have a return to friend only with Fiona option if that wasn't the case.
I honestly think we'll be able to do her soon. SO, it's their loss if they don't want to enjoy that. I also think FIona was the best "choice" to lose "virginity" lol (yes I played with the cucumber bc I didn't want to have mc unprepared, lose a potential top position bc of it lol). A bit sad there was no real variation apart from a line if we took the cucumber lol.

But, I don't think the dev is aiming for anything like that, I kind of also very much doubt that Fiona would be topped/penetrated. Dev has already noted that when he/she decides to do something, they'll just do it, as shown by the whole Zoey thing.

I don't agree with that, it was clearly shown she had no real prblm being "topped" by Ashe and receiving her load nearly on her face. I think a more experienced Ashe will pop Fiona's cherry lol. It might even be the key to dom her lol. I can't wait to see what the dev/s has in store for us.
Yk I just realized we actually couldn't avoid that, did dev/s explain why? I'd actually like to know.





THX

 

[Johan_0000]

lol I just realized I missed another rape cop conversation. Well to me yeah she isn't a rape cop technically speaking but she gives off those vibes that I still call her rape cop.

I mean I'm pretty sure she'd have done it if she catched you when on the kitten route and you try to escape her lol



THX

 

[Dessolos]

I mean I'm pretty sure she'd have done it if she catched you when on the kitten route and you try to escape her lol



THX

yeah I do not question for a moment she wouldn't rape Ashe she just hasn't yet , she gives off those red flags and vibes

 

[Birdnman993]

That's true, though honestly, VN's can end up being a lot more satisfying of a fap if you find that one scenario that just clicks with you, or if you get into the characters. I've literally got games that I've redownloaded just because certain scenes and most importantly the buildup to the scenes were hot as fuck, so eh. Suppose I do understand people that mainly fap to VN's, but as someone pointed out, it seems weird to require scenes in the first or second updates at that point.

I'm not saying I've never tried it, at least for me it's not very comfortable to synchronize with what I see, that's why it's not for me.

Oh my god. I am sorry for reminding you this. yeah I forget how shitty this world has become.

Yep.... But don't worry, I remember it mostly as a very strange event, like the kind of thing you read about on Reddit forums.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Rachel was the person basically looking after Ashe for the longest time, yet she flipped her shit despite knowing this and ended up essentially ruining their relationship. I still feel like their little meeting and make up feels cheap compared to how much Ashe must have suffered losing her one rock in life that she could depend on, as even if Fiona is a good friend, it wasn't to the level of Rachel.

Rachel flipped her shit because she felt the same way that Ashe did and figured an ugly break was the only way to keep her twin sister anywhere other than balls deep into her long term. Do I agree with how she handled that? No. However she did what she thought was the only thing to prevent her from ruining her life, Ashe's life and their relationship with their mother.
As someone who's gone through pretty bad mental health episodes, it wasn't Rachel's responsibility to keep Ashe's head together. Especially at the cost of her own well being, which was how she saw that going. There's problems with Rachel, her pressuring Ashe to be around Isabella is a big one, but as an outside observer I can't heavily fault her for how she broke things off with her sister. If this was real life and not an incest novel then that'd be pretty well universally agreed on. Also makes them eventually falling a lot more delectable imo.

 

[LonerPrime]

Ah this game got an update, nice.

Sadly the last update disappointed me a bit. While I liked the idea of escorting an unsure character through life to try and find her confidence through choices that'd enforce her submissive or dominant side, it kinda wrecked my immersion when the dev made it unavoidable to lose her virginity with a random girl that had way less bearing as a character than the other more established characters.

Nothing deal breaking, but considering the slow burn nature of the story progression, that felt a bit unsatisfying. Sure she is horny, but I was always able to decide if she'd cross a particular line or not. Not this time though..- oh well.

 

[Dessolos]

I'm gonna play the update tomorrow. Could I get a small spoiler. what LI is on the cuckqueen path, I skipped it last update as I have no interest in the mother. So I figure id wait till it get more content before I give it a try, to see if I hate it or not

 

[Ciaran8023]

Well since most of the Male Protagonists game use this kind of logic where the Male protagonist take everything they want without giving anything back and are considered dominant, you can expect the same from those who are saturated playing those kind of games. The person didn't have to reply to my comment defending the rapist cop, but they felt offended when I complained about it and they stuck to it.

That's a fair point, I hadn't considered that it might be akin to learned behaviour after a lot of male protagonist games using that exact type of behaviour.
That's interesting actually, thank you for bringing that to my attention.

And yeah, there are a handful of people in here that will do whatever they can to die on that roidcop-shaped hill.

In that it'd be more exact to say she'd develop a sort of 2nd persona when her switch is flipped (angry, super stressed). Like we saw even b4 the crossroad choice, when in those situations she'd be a lot more "confident", not taking bs from others...
It's true that ppl wanted to see Fiona being penetrated, I agree with you that for the current Mc it'd be weird, however the difference is ppl expected to have a return to friend only with Fiona option if that wasn't the case.
I honestly think we'll be able to do her soon. SO, it's their loss if they don't want to enjoy that. I also think FIona was the best "choice" to lose "virginity" lol (yes I played with the cucumber bc I didn't want to have mc unprepared, lose a potential top position bc of it lol). A bit sad there was no real variation apart from a line if we took the cucumber lol.

A second persona is pretty much what it would be yeah, but it's not something that Ashe has really shown anything of besides blowing up from stress due to the Rachel situation.
I also was one of the people expecting a 'return to friend' option before that scene, as posts have pointed out other scenes with an option to avoid them, it was jarring that it didn't exist even though I'm not on the romantic Fiona route as she's solely a friend in my eyes.

I don't agree with that, it was clearly shown she had no real prblm being "topped" by Ashe and receiving her load nearly on her face. I think a more experienced Ashe will pop Fiona's cherry lol. It might even be the key to dom her lol. I can't wait to see what the dev/s has in store for us.
Yk I just realized we actually couldn't avoid that, did dev/s explain why? I'd actually like to know.

I mean sure, but there's a far cry from being topped and getting penetrated. I like me a dominant girl, but I'm not exactly on board with getting pegged, which is why I kind of doubt that Fiona will have that sort of development.

Why we couldn't avoid it? Your guess is as good as mine, the dev seems to be as logical as C'thulhu when it comes to certain choices being made.

Rachel flipped her shit because she felt the same way that Ashe did and figured an ugly break was the only way to keep her twin sister anywhere other than balls deep into her long term. Do I agree with how she handled that? No. However she did what she thought was the only thing to prevent her from ruining her life, Ashe's life and their relationship with their mother.

Sure, but the problem with that yet again is that she knew that Ashe didn't have anyone other than her, and instead of taking a few extra breaths to settle herself and actually talk (which she should be used to as she's been quelling Ashe's anxiety since they were both children), she went entirely off the rails.

My point is that it doesn't make sense that that was the only way that she could figure out, arguably it's downright the worst thing she could have done given how it splintered the family in a pretty ridiculous way.

As someone who's gone through pretty bad mental health episodes, it wasn't Rachel's responsibility to keep Ashe's head together. Especially at the cost of her own well being, which was how she saw that going.

As someone with ongoing mental health issues, ironically also being anxiety mainly, of course it's never the responsibility of the people around you. That being said, you need to be able to trust the people that are around you, and Rachel proved herself untrustworthy to Ashe which is more or less a cardinal sin for someone with anxiety issues and a fear of people getting close to her and finding out her secret.

There's problems with Rachel, her pressuring Ashe to be around Isabella is a big one, but as an outside observer I can't heavily fault her for how she broke things off with her sister. If this was real life and not an incest novel then that'd be pretty well universally agreed on. Also makes them eventually falling a lot more delectable imo.

Agree to disagree, I fault her quite a bit, in fact she's one of the least favourite characters out of any VN for me.

EDIT- this post ended up being way bigger than I expected, my bad.