VN Ren'Py Eruption Imminent [v0.5.1] [MorriganRae]

[Johan_0000]

lol I just realized I missed another rape cop conversation. Well to me yeah she isn't a rape cop technically speaking but she gives off those vibes that I still call her rape cop.

I mean I'm pretty sure she'd have done it if she catched you when on the kitten route and you try to escape her lol



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[Dessolos]

I mean I'm pretty sure she'd have done it if she catched you when on the kitten route and you try to escape her lol



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yeah I do not question for a moment she wouldn't rape Ashe she just hasn't yet , she gives off those red flags and vibes

 

[Birdnman993]

That's true, though honestly, VN's can end up being a lot more satisfying of a fap if you find that one scenario that just clicks with you, or if you get into the characters. I've literally got games that I've redownloaded just because certain scenes and most importantly the buildup to the scenes were hot as fuck, so eh. Suppose I do understand people that mainly fap to VN's, but as someone pointed out, it seems weird to require scenes in the first or second updates at that point.

I'm not saying I've never tried it, at least for me it's not very comfortable to synchronize with what I see, that's why it's not for me.

Oh my god. I am sorry for reminding you this. yeah I forget how shitty this world has become.

Yep.... But don't worry, I remember it mostly as a very strange event, like the kind of thing you read about on Reddit forums.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Rachel was the person basically looking after Ashe for the longest time, yet she flipped her shit despite knowing this and ended up essentially ruining their relationship. I still feel like their little meeting and make up feels cheap compared to how much Ashe must have suffered losing her one rock in life that she could depend on, as even if Fiona is a good friend, it wasn't to the level of Rachel.

Rachel flipped her shit because she felt the same way that Ashe did and figured an ugly break was the only way to keep her twin sister anywhere other than balls deep into her long term. Do I agree with how she handled that? No. However she did what she thought was the only thing to prevent her from ruining her life, Ashe's life and their relationship with their mother.
As someone who's gone through pretty bad mental health episodes, it wasn't Rachel's responsibility to keep Ashe's head together. Especially at the cost of her own well being, which was how she saw that going. There's problems with Rachel, her pressuring Ashe to be around Isabella is a big one, but as an outside observer I can't heavily fault her for how she broke things off with her sister. If this was real life and not an incest novel then that'd be pretty well universally agreed on. Also makes them eventually falling a lot more delectable imo.

 

[LonerPrime]

Ah this game got an update, nice.

Sadly the last update disappointed me a bit. While I liked the idea of escorting an unsure character through life to try and find her confidence through choices that'd enforce her submissive or dominant side, it kinda wrecked my immersion when the dev made it unavoidable to lose her virginity with a random girl that had way less bearing as a character than the other more established characters.

Nothing deal breaking, but considering the slow burn nature of the story progression, that felt a bit unsatisfying. Sure she is horny, but I was always able to decide if she'd cross a particular line or not. Not this time though..- oh well.

 

[Dessolos]

I'm gonna play the update tomorrow. Could I get a small spoiler. what LI is on the cuckqueen path, I skipped it last update as I have no interest in the mother. So I figure id wait till it get more content before I give it a try, to see if I hate it or not

 

[Ciaran8023]

Well since most of the Male Protagonists game use this kind of logic where the Male protagonist take everything they want without giving anything back and are considered dominant, you can expect the same from those who are saturated playing those kind of games. The person didn't have to reply to my comment defending the rapist cop, but they felt offended when I complained about it and they stuck to it.

That's a fair point, I hadn't considered that it might be akin to learned behaviour after a lot of male protagonist games using that exact type of behaviour.
That's interesting actually, thank you for bringing that to my attention.

And yeah, there are a handful of people in here that will do whatever they can to die on that roidcop-shaped hill.

In that it'd be more exact to say she'd develop a sort of 2nd persona when her switch is flipped (angry, super stressed). Like we saw even b4 the crossroad choice, when in those situations she'd be a lot more "confident", not taking bs from others...
It's true that ppl wanted to see Fiona being penetrated, I agree with you that for the current Mc it'd be weird, however the difference is ppl expected to have a return to friend only with Fiona option if that wasn't the case.
I honestly think we'll be able to do her soon. SO, it's their loss if they don't want to enjoy that. I also think FIona was the best "choice" to lose "virginity" lol (yes I played with the cucumber bc I didn't want to have mc unprepared, lose a potential top position bc of it lol). A bit sad there was no real variation apart from a line if we took the cucumber lol.

A second persona is pretty much what it would be yeah, but it's not something that Ashe has really shown anything of besides blowing up from stress due to the Rachel situation.
I also was one of the people expecting a 'return to friend' option before that scene, as posts have pointed out other scenes with an option to avoid them, it was jarring that it didn't exist even though I'm not on the romantic Fiona route as she's solely a friend in my eyes.

I don't agree with that, it was clearly shown she had no real prblm being "topped" by Ashe and receiving her load nearly on her face. I think a more experienced Ashe will pop Fiona's cherry lol. It might even be the key to dom her lol. I can't wait to see what the dev/s has in store for us.
Yk I just realized we actually couldn't avoid that, did dev/s explain why? I'd actually like to know.

I mean sure, but there's a far cry from being topped and getting penetrated. I like me a dominant girl, but I'm not exactly on board with getting pegged, which is why I kind of doubt that Fiona will have that sort of development.

Why we couldn't avoid it? Your guess is as good as mine, the dev seems to be as logical as C'thulhu when it comes to certain choices being made.

Rachel flipped her shit because she felt the same way that Ashe did and figured an ugly break was the only way to keep her twin sister anywhere other than balls deep into her long term. Do I agree with how she handled that? No. However she did what she thought was the only thing to prevent her from ruining her life, Ashe's life and their relationship with their mother.

Sure, but the problem with that yet again is that she knew that Ashe didn't have anyone other than her, and instead of taking a few extra breaths to settle herself and actually talk (which she should be used to as she's been quelling Ashe's anxiety since they were both children), she went entirely off the rails.

My point is that it doesn't make sense that that was the only way that she could figure out, arguably it's downright the worst thing she could have done given how it splintered the family in a pretty ridiculous way.

As someone who's gone through pretty bad mental health episodes, it wasn't Rachel's responsibility to keep Ashe's head together. Especially at the cost of her own well being, which was how she saw that going.

As someone with ongoing mental health issues, ironically also being anxiety mainly, of course it's never the responsibility of the people around you. That being said, you need to be able to trust the people that are around you, and Rachel proved herself untrustworthy to Ashe which is more or less a cardinal sin for someone with anxiety issues and a fear of people getting close to her and finding out her secret.

There's problems with Rachel, her pressuring Ashe to be around Isabella is a big one, but as an outside observer I can't heavily fault her for how she broke things off with her sister. If this was real life and not an incest novel then that'd be pretty well universally agreed on. Also makes them eventually falling a lot more delectable imo.

Agree to disagree, I fault her quite a bit, in fact she's one of the least favourite characters out of any VN for me.

EDIT- this post ended up being way bigger than I expected, my bad.

 

[Orphanus]

Well since most of the Male Protagonists game use this kind of logic where the Male protagonist take everything they want without giving anything back and are considered dominant, you can expect the same from those who are saturated playing those kind of games. The person didn't have to reply to my comment defending the rapist cop, but they felt offended when I complained about it and they stuck to it.

That is the part that baffles me, complaining about the crowd disliking Natasha & calling her a rape cop supposedly mixing fiction & reality but they are the ones freaking out on behalf of a fictional character when there is no point in even commenting on other people's personal opinion on this game.

 

[Ogre]

Well I know what this thread gonna be talking about for the next dev cycle still better than same rape cop conversation over and over

Welp, sorry to disappoint you. It is inevitable that someone is going to make the same rape cop posts over and over and over and accuse everyone else of being rapists and rape apologists, and if you say anything, he's going to post it 75 more times and completely shit up the thread.

Oh too late, it's already happening.

 

[Orphanus]

That's a fair point, I hadn't considered that it might be akin to learned behaviour after a lot of male protagonist games using that exact type of behaviour.
That's interesting actually, thank you for bringing that to my attention.

And yeah, there are a handful of people in here that will do whatever they can to die on that roidcop-shaped hill.


A second persona is pretty much what it would be yeah, but it's not something that Ashe has really shown anything of besides blowing up from stress due to the Rachel situation.
I also was one of the people expecting a 'return to friend' option before that scene, as posts have pointed out other scenes with an option to avoid them, it was jarring that it didn't exist even though I'm not on the romantic Fiona route as she's solely a friend in my eyes.


I mean sure, but there's a far cry from being topped and getting penetrated. I like me a dominant girl, but I'm not exactly on board with getting pegged, which is why I kind of doubt that Fiona will have that sort of development.

Why we couldn't avoid it? Your guess is as good as mine, the dev seems to be as logical as C'thulhu when it comes to certain choices being made.


Sure, but the problem with that yet again is that she knew that Ashe didn't have anyone other than her, and instead of taking a few extra breaths to settle herself and actually talk (which she should be used to as she's been quelling Ashe's anxiety since they were both children), she went entirely off the rails.

My point is that it doesn't make sense that that was the only way that she could figure out, arguably it's downright the worst thing she could have done given how it splintered the family in a pretty ridiculous way.


As someone with ongoing mental health issues, ironically also being anxiety mainly, of course it's never the responsibility of the people around you. That being said, you need to be able to trust the people that are around you, and Rachel proved herself untrustworthy to Ashe which is more or less a cardinal sin for someone with anxiety issues and a fear of people getting close to her and finding out her secret.


Agree to disagree, I fault her quite a bit, in fact she's one of the least favourite characters out of any VN for me.

EDIT- this post ended up being way bigger than I expected, my bad.

I also find Rachel quite unlikable, but that sadly goes for most of the "Love" Interests at this point in time, they all are really selfish and uncaring pricks, to varying degrees. Delilah may or may not be an exception, I don't have too much faith anymore.

 

[Dessolos]

haha Vanessa and Rachael are the most likeable LI for me in this game unless the update changes my mind i'd put those 2 characters probably around my top 25 maybe slightly lower

Edit : Fiona I dont see as a LI but a friend but yeah Fiona is probably the best character in the game

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

As someone with ongoing mental health issues, ironically also being anxiety mainly, of course it's never the responsibility of the people around you. That being said, you need to be able to trust the people that are around you, and Rachel proved herself untrustworthy to Ashe which is more or less a cardinal sin for someone with anxiety issues and a fear of people getting close to her and finding out her secret.

Which is the exact point. Rachel couldn't trust herself to be around Ashe without doing something she'd regret. She knew that if she didn't effectively destroy that trust then she was gonna end up barefoot and pregnant with her twin sister's baby.
Although yes we will disagree on this. She's a top 3 character for me in this game along with her mom and Fiona.

 

[Orphanus]

haha Vanessa and Rachael are the most likeable LI for me in this game unless the update changes my mind i'd put those 2 characters probably around my top 25 maybe slightly lower

Edit : Fiona I dont see as a LI but a friend but yeah Fiona is probably the best character in the game

Oh Fiona is really nice, definitely, just 0 appeal as a LI to me personally & also not attractive, again simply personal opinion ofc.

 

[Ciaran8023]

I also find Rachel quite unlikable, but that sadly goes for most of the "Love" Interests at this point in time, they all are really selfish and uncaring pricks, to varying degrees. Delilah may or may not be an exception, I don't have too much faith anymore.

Yeah I kind of delved into this earlier, the only two characters that tend to respect the "give" part of a give and take relationship seems to be Delilah and Fiona.
Personally not really into Delilah, and Fiona is mainly just a friend in my eyes as Ashe lacks friends, so it's a bit of an awkward scenario for me.

Which is the exact point. Rachel couldn't trust herself to be around Ashe without doing something she'd regret. She knew that if she didn't effectively destroy that trust then she was gonna end up barefoot and pregnant with her twin sister's baby.
Although yes we will disagree on this. She's a top 3 character for me in this game along with her mom and Fiona.

But that doesn't make sense either, because Rachel hasn't given any strong indication that she would somehow lack the self-discipline to just say no. Her actions when she's fucking hammered doesn't mean that she would take the same actions when she's sober.
She clearly had the balls to try to act as if nothing happened and to shut down attempts to talk after an entire year of complete silence, so she clearly has the balls to deny Ashe, which makes her decision even more baffling.

Moreover, literally no scenario has the only solution being "destroy the trust and the relationship". There's a thing called drawing a boundary, which she could and should have done, yet chose not to.

Yeah, agree to disagree since we won't see eye to eye on this, Rachel is irredeemable to me personally given the context of the situation. I wish I had the option to tell her to fuck off during their little make up meeting honestly.

 

[Johan_0000]

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I mean sure, but there's a far cry from being topped and getting penetrated. I like me a dominant girl, but I'm not exactly on board with getting pegged, which is why I kind of doubt that Fiona will have that sort of development.

Why we couldn't avoid it? Your guess is as good as mine, the dev seems to be as logical as C'thulhu when it comes to certain choices being made.

Call me crazy but Idk I can rly see it happenning. Fiona isn't like the cop, honestly I only see the comp takin f we blackmail her or use the aphrodisiac drug on her lol.
However, Fiona is a different case she seemed more vanilla than anything honestly. If dev/s make it so she never takes it then I hope that as Ash grows, she actually asks for it and if Fiona refuses. Then we'd receive a choice to end things with her.

Don't forget that they are not men they are futas, you can't compare both. I'm hoping that we actually play a bit of a "corruption game" with Fiona. Like every time she tries to do smt to us we'd play with her ass, insert a finger, tongue, play with her prostate... slowly but surely giving her a taste of the forbidden fruit lol.
I still hope we'll dom her wether it be by receiving it or giving though.
As a duplo dom it's our duty to show the strenght and supremacy of duplos in both femdom and futadoms lol

Welp, sorry to disappoint you. It is inevitable that someone is going to make the same rape cop posts over and over and over and accuse everyone else of being rapists and rape apologists, and if you say anything, he's going to post it 75 more times and completely shit up the thread.

Oh too late, it's already happening.

I mean now we have multiple subjects on the thread it's quite entertaining to be honest




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[Ciaran8023]

Call me crazy but Idk I can rly see it happenning. Fiona isn't like the cop, honestly I only see the comp takin f we blackmail her or use the aphrodisiac drug on her lol.
However, Fiona is a different case she seemed more vanilla than anything honestly. If dev/s make it so she never takes it then I hope that as Ash grows, she actually asks for it and if Fiona refuses. Then we'd receive a choice to end things with her.

Don't forget that they are not men they are futas, you can't compare both. I'm hoping that we actually play a bit of a "corruption game" with Fiona. Like every time she tries to do smt to us we'd play with her ass, insert a finger, tongue, play with her prostate... slowly but surely giving her a taste of the forbidden fruit lol.
I still hope we'll dom her wether it be by receiving it or giving though.
As a duplo dom it's our duty to show the strenght and supremacy of duplos in both femdom and futadoms lol

Of course, they aren't men though Fiona just comes off as more of a "dude-bro" type of character and not really feminine. Though that being said, if it was to happen, I think what you said would make the most sense in that it would have to be slowly done over multiple updates, though even then I wouldn't be surprised if Fiona just wouldn't allow it.

It's all up to the whim of the dev and we know that the dev doesn't shy away from doing what they want. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

She clearly had the balls to try to act as if nothing happened and to shut down attempts to talk after an entire year of complete silence, so she clearly has the balls to deny Ashe, which makes her decision even more baffling.

Which is the exact tell I needed to come to that understanding. She cut Ashe off completely. Why would she cut Ashe off completely? The game has done a very thorough job of telegraphing that Rachel is attracted to Ashe so why would she cut her off? Because she knew that was the only way that she would actually not end up with Ashe. It's not even a case of being able to deny her, she didn't trust herself to not make the move on Ashe herself.

 

[Johan_0000]

complaining about the crowd disliking Natasha & calling her a rape cop

I honestly don't see the prblm with calling her rapey when she's in fact rapey lol. Smt ppl need to vent, let's just let them, I don't see where the prblm is as long as they don't judge others for liking her.
Like you said she's a fiction character let's let them trash her where's the prblm lol.

It's like when some ppl wished to give it to Fiona and ppl (mostly sub path guys I'd assume) went crazy. "No Fiona isn't supposed to take" "she can only dom", "she'll never take it". HOW THE HELL WOULD YOU KNOW THAT, DID THE DEV MAKE A STATEMENT ABT IT? IF SO THEN WHY DON'T YOU DIRECTLY TELL US DEV SAID THAT INSTEAD OF TRASHING PPL.
Damn let ppl have some hope, yeah I may have used your com to vent myself lol
I think I may have overdone it with the capital letter but idk It felt like it hit harder lol


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I think I should make it clear I'm talking abt the guys who are "close-minded" not the ones that argue why it could or couldn't be possible
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[Ciaran8023]

Which is the exact tell I needed to come to that understanding. She cut Ashe off completely. Why would she cut Ashe off completely? The game has done a very thorough job of telegraphing that Rachel is attracted to Ashe so why would she cut her off? Because she knew that was the only way that she would actually not end up with Ashe. It's not even a case of being able to deny her, she didn't trust herself to not make the move on Ashe herself.

How has the game done anything to telegraph that she's attracted to Ashe other than coming on to her while being absolutely hammered? Just to let you know, decisions made while being heavily intoxicated aren't exactly rooted in reason or even attraction for that matter, it's rooted in impulse.
None of that points towards Rachel being so ungodly infatuated that she would be incapable of controlling herself and would self-ignite like a proverbial moth to the flame.

But let's say hypothetically that you're right, why the fuck would she try to even contact Ashe after she got back? When she has literally zero knowledge whether or not Ashe is over her, and also have zero knowledge whether or not Ashe would even talk to her, why decide to get back in touch?
It doesn't make sense for your point of view because it's literally just throwing what she did into the trash, which means that she ended up basically destroying Ashe for a long period of time for absolutely no gain because she put herself in the fucking situation again.
Actually this makes me even more mad at Rachel in that case, if she's so absolutely inept at self-control, she should have not gotten close to Ashe again at all.

You might have started out with trying to defend Rachel's actions as the right thing to do, but you somehow managed to make her look even worse actually.

 

[Orphanus]

I honestly don't see the prblm with calling her rapey when she's in fact rapey lol. Smt ppl need to vent, let's just let them, I don't see where the prblm is as long as they don't judge others for liking her.
Like you said she's a fiction character let's let them trash her where's the prblm lol.

Yeah, I don't get it either. It's as you say she does come across like someone who's more likely to be a rapist than not. I won't go over every detail again, since I had that discussion a few months ago with 1 or 2 of those people who seem to suffer a mental breakdown every time anyone dares to harshly critique Natasha's inexcusable antics but long story short: She's in a position of power & Ashe has absolutely no reason to assume she'd have a choice and that the cop would respect a 'no'. Also Natasha only approaches her in situations where Ashe is threatened by her. Now is there anything wrong with liking Natasha in this game & finding her interactions with Ashe hot? Of course not, but people really need to stop and try defend those actions cause in reality they'd be criminal offenses in many places and on top of that it doesn't matter if this is a game or reality, the difference is a fictional character acting immoral doesn't translate into a real life issue but it doesn't make the behavior itself any more acceptable in a general sense.

Edit: From what it seems the current update also quite literally proves everyone calling her a rape cop & pointing out that she won't accept a 'no' and that she's indeed consciously trying to force herself on Ashe via abusing her power as law enforcement literally right, so everyone arguing how she isn't either makes a complete fool out of themselves.