VN Ren'Py Eruption Imminent [v0.5.1] [MorriganRae]

[Alucard421]

Agreed, that's why I said the 'closest I could think of' because it ticked 2 out of 3 boxes. I think there's some black best friend characters sprinkled around that avoid the fetishization, but no black men that are LIs, just bulls to cuck and steal. It's pretty sad.

See you get it isn't it. How not a single game has a black male with good personality and not stereotypes is present in this entire site. Because Black Guys exist for Interracial Cuckolding and NTR. They are in that box for Developers, apparently.

 

[Birdnman993]

How nice to come back from work and see such an active forum, now it's my turn.

This will likely not be a popular opinion with some of the people in here, but yeah, I've always kind of felt like Rachel is just a shit individual from the get-go.
Of course, to each their own, people are more than welcome to like Rachel but from my personal perspective, it's very hard for me to understand.

That's why since I found out everything that happened between them I said to myself "fuck it" if you don't want my poor Ashe all shy and lonely don't look for me when she's an Alpha, or being a Kitty surrounded by strong women who protect her from bitches who abandon sisters.

Maybe I'll look at the route out of curiosity but it clearly won't be my priority.

I'd agree with you except the CQ route seems like a fantasy alternate reality, where fundamentals of characters change. I don't think you can take examples from the CQ route and infer them back to the character's attributes in general.

But CQ Rachel is a shitty person, that I'll agree on.

I think the same, they all seem like an alternate version of themselves to fit a CQ fantasy, but for those who don't enjoy that it leaves you feeling bad, I only tried it to see what it was like and honestly I'd rather not touch it again, Zoey's scene was really humiliating, technically they're not a couple, but having a Monkey bigger than Ashe come and roll his eyes at her leaves you with a bitter taste in your mouth.

I think that's why different routes are necessary because the world radically changes personality.

 

[Hungover00]

See you get it isn't it. How not a single game has a black male with good personality and not stereotypes is present in this entire site. Because Black Guys exist for Interracial Cuckolding and NTR. They are in that box for Developers, apparently.

Gay best friend of the MMC is the other niche.

It's fucking bleak.

 

[Alucard421]

Gay best friend of the MMC is the other niche.

It's fucking bleak.

Come home comes to my mind. Best Bisexual protagonist. Best Bisexual Asian partner. Consensual group sex, best trans character as your partner. Honestly that is the game where I like playing as Bisexual protagonist.

 

[Alucard421]

How nice to come back from work and see such an active forum, now it's my turn.

That's why since I found out everything that happened between them I said to myself "fuck it" if you don't want my poor Ashe all shy and lonely don't look for me when she's an Alpha, or being a Kitty surrounded by strong women who protect her from bitches who abandon sisters.

Maybe I'll look at the route out of curiosity but it clearly won't be my priority.

I think the same, they all seem like an alternate version of themselves to fit a CQ fantasy, but for those who don't enjoy that it leaves you feeling bad, I only tried it to see what it was like and honestly I'd rather not touch it again, Zoey's scene was really humiliating, technically they're not a couple, but having a Monkey bigger than Ashe come and roll his eyes at her leaves you with a bitter taste in your mouth.

I think that's why different routes are necessary because the world radically changes personality.

Just use Unren tool and see the images of each day and even check out the .rpy file using notepad++ to understand whats going in the alternate path.

 

[manscout]

You make good points, but I still think they point to an alternate reality. Why did Zoey run into that pornstar (good catch, I missed where she was from, though she looked familiar) on 1 of 3 routes, and not the others? Or at least take her back to fuck? Because as you point out, she's a bit of a good time girl with no commitment to Ashe, so why wouldn't she take the opportunity on the Siren and Kitten paths?

And why did Stella not spike Evelyn on those other two paths? My point is that the Siren and Kitten paths are different because of Ashe's actions, the CQ path is different because the world around Ashe is different (though Lexi is pretty much Ashe's fault in how it plays out differently). With Rachel it's hard to tell if it's because Ashe chose to let her be exposed to Natasha, so it is her fault, or if Rachel/Natasha act differently (or Elysium strikes again) in that different timeline.

I agree with you in the sense of "alternate universe" that events transpired differently, but not that the characters themselves are just suddenly different from their usual selves (the cheap corruption trope of just writing the character as a secret slut to someone that isn't the MC).

EDIT: So yeah, outside of CQ route Alex never ran into Jordan, Stella didn't think of spiking Evelyn, the baseline characters are still the same people, they didn't just have a sudden character shift when you picked CQ route, just events transpired differently and led into situations where the MC can only watch instead of participate.

I think the same, they all seem like an alternate version of themselves to fit a CQ fantasy, but for those who don't enjoy that it leaves you feeling bad, I only tried it to see what it was like and honestly I'd rather not touch it again, Zoey's scene was really humiliating, technically they're not a couple, but having a Monkey bigger than Ashe come and roll his eyes at her leaves you with a bitter taste in your mouth.

I think that's why different routes are necessary because the world radically changes personality.

Again, I'm never arguing for people that aren't into NTR being forced into seeing NTR.

For Zoey's case, it would simply be a matter of adding a menu option before she reveals who her "friend" is IF your cuckscore is already high enough. If your cuck score is low enough the menu won't even display and she just introduces her friend as being her vibrator, if your cuck score is high enough the menu option lets you choose if what she brought to videofeed and introduced as her "friend" was a person (tagged as being a cuck option) or her vibrator.

If you pick vibrator you get the normal Siren/Kitten scene, if you pick person you get the CQ scene, simple as that we now have the option of all the content being available at the moment of the decision without tying it to some random decision hours earlier in the playthrough.

 

[Birdnman993]

Agreed, that's why I said the 'closest I could think of' because it ticked 2 out of 3 boxes. I think there's some black best friend characters sprinkled around that avoid the fetishization, but no black men that are LIs, just bulls to cuck and steal. It's pretty sad.

If you're looking for examples of non-evil black men who cheat, in "Nothing Is Forever" there's a black guy who's pretty cool and teaches at a gym and is obviously muscular, the twist is that he's a cuckold in the story, which causes problems in his relationship with a DOM woman.

In "Acting Lessons" the MC's black best friend is a bread with the MC.

In "Superhuman" the MC's best friend start out as rivals fighting over a girl all the time but eventually they sort out their differences and become BBFs.

 

[Alucard421]

If you're looking for examples of non-evil black men who cheat, in "Nothing Is Forever" there's a black guy who's pretty cool and teaches at a gym and is obviously muscular, the twist is that he's a cuckold in the story, which causes problems in his relationship with a DOM woman.

In "Acting Lessons" the MC's black best friend is a bread with the MC.

In "Superhuman" the MC's best friend start out as rivals fighting over a girl all the time but eventually they sort out their differences and become BBFs.

Please don't mention Superhuman. I finally got rid of everything related to that game. That game had me in a similar grip of controversy like Eruption Imminent because of how frequently things changed with the hidden scores because you bought a different thing whose effect you get three chapters later.

But the final seal in the deal was when there was blue haired character who in the huge war arc against the main bitch villain gets killed out of nowhere by that bitches collected soldiers because of what exactly even I don't know and she is brutally killed in a manner that she can't be resurrected. She was slowly getting to cozy up with the protagonist and then bam out of nowhere a blue crystal sphere gets pierced into her throat and then it explodes destroying her head. At that point I realized, yeah I am no longer playing this game.

Its a good game but not knowing what exactly affects what character which even led to death of potential LIs, thats a big no no for me. Just mention of that game gives me anxiety. And I am afraid that this game will end with the Rapist Cop finally winning, just like in real life. And Ashe will be the sore loser with so much trauma that no amount of therapy or drugs will help her.

 

[Hungover00]

If you're looking for examples of non-evil black men who cheat, in "Nothing Is Forever" there's a black guy who's pretty cool and teaches at a gym and is obviously muscular, the twist is that he's a cuckold in the story, which causes problems in his relationship with a DOM woman.

In "Acting Lessons" the MC's black best friend is a bread with the MC.

In "Superhuman" the MC's best friend start out as rivals fighting over a girl all the time but eventually they sort out their differences and become BBFs.

I forgot about Nothing is Forever. Mostly because that is my least played route (well, tied with the evil cheater path), hard femdom isn't my bag.

I kind of saved Acting Lessons for some undetermined date in the future (Leap of Faith as well, though I was probably 2/3 or 4/5ths of the way through when I paused). Similar with Superhuman, iirc, though I may not come back to that. It's a good game, but subjectively not to my tastes.

 

[lossius]

Did anyone else feel the same way about "Fiona's sudden interest"?
I mean, Ashe says they're best friends and all, Ashe clearly has an interest in her but it was just "Fiona finds out Ashe is a duplo and boom, she performs cunnilingus and then they have sex"
I mean, good for Ashe, who always had feelings about it, but, isn't it a little weird/hypocritical on Fiona's part?

I'll go even further: It almost seems like she fetishized her best friend, you know?
I mean, Fiona may have always hidden this feeling, but "Just after Ashe to tell her about the secret and see a duplo that she gave in to the feeling."
Anyway, I'm still thinking about all this, clearly this line of thinking has flaws.

 

[Ciaran8023]

Did anyone else feel the same way about "Fiona's sudden interest"?
I mean, Ashe says they're best friends and all, Ashe clearly has an interest in her but it was just "Fiona finds out Ashe is a duplo and boom, she performs cunnilingus and then they have sex"
I mean, good for Ashe, who always had feelings about it, but, isn't it a little weird/hypocritical on Fiona's part?

I'll go even further: It almost seems like she fetishized her best friend, you know?
I mean, Fiona may have always hidden this feeling, but "Just after Ashe to tell her about the secret and see a duplo that she gave in to the feeling."
Anyway, I'm still thinking about all this, clearly this line of thinking has flaws.

It has flaws but it's something to keep in mind, I also thought it was very abrupt to the point where I was considering that she might have had lingering feelings for Ashe, but nothing really stood out to affirm that point.
It also might be that Fiona is completely unattracted to regular futas but when she found out that Ashe was packing some double trouble, that combined with already being quite close together might have fueled some sort of twisted attraction, but that also ties in with a discussion that people were having earlier in that if it's truly the case where her attraction entirely hinges on a pussy, then Fiona is very unlikely to be willing to be penetrated.

I'm not sure which, but I do agree that it's pretty weird from her part. I personally don't have her as an LI of any kind since I just viewed her as a necessary friend due to Ashe basically having no one else to truly depend on.

 

[lossius]

but that also ties in with a discussion that people were having earlier in that if it's truly the case where her attraction entirely hinges on a pussy, then Fiona is very unlikely to be willing to be penetrated.

I also thought about this while typing and I think it makes sense, but I was still thinking about it
I also took her out of the LI route

 

[manscout]

Meh, Fiona was pretty okay with getting a handjob from Ashe before she even knew she was a duplo, so I really doubt its a sexual orientation issue. Ashe plays an important part in both variations of the sleepover scene actually, Ashe either gets Fiona off with just a handjob (which indicates Fiona got extra aroused by the fact it was Ashe giving her a handy, since otherwise it takes a skilled blowjob from Zoey) or even in the scenario where Zoey is the one sucking off Fiona what sets her off in the moment she starts cumming is making eye contact with Ashe.

Either way, I think it is more likely that Fiona's initial kink was actually the fact Ashe is her best friend, and Fiona makes a whole point in the latest update about how she tries to keep friendships and romantic relationships apart, so involving Ashe, who is her best and kind of only friend, in her sex life had a very big "forbidden fruit" factor to it.

Maybe she has a bit of a kink for the whole hermaphrodite physiology, but I actually think the main reason she's doing this whole "duplo admiration" thing is because Ashe is a duplo. She isn't attracted to Ashe because she is a duplo, she is attracted to duplos because Ashe is one. The revelation that Ashe is a duplo is how Fiona is internally justifying expressing her feelings of attraction for her best friend: "the revelation that she is a duplo changed things, it is okay for me to think Ashe is hot, because duplos are hot, so it is not weird for me to feel attracted to my best friend".

I think the duplo fetish is just an outlet for the repressed feelings of attraction she already had but kept buried to preserve their friendship.

Also I'm sorry, but if Fiona of all characters isn't an LI, then who is one in this game? Not much left outside of the incest plots and Valeria, and even that is still barely warming up...

Also I really doubt Fiona won't be okay with getting penetrated, she will probably be awkward about it and it probably won't be something she prepared herself very well for, but she really doesn't strike me as the kind of person who would make an issue out of that if it means pleasing her partner.

 

[Ciaran8023]

Meh, Fiona was pretty okay with getting a handjob from Ashe before she even knew she was a duplo, so I really doubt its a sexual orientation issue. Ashe plays an important part in both variations of the sleepover scene actually, Ashe either gets Fiona off with just a handjob (which indicates Fiona got extra aroused by the fact it was Ashe giving her a handy, since otherwise it takes a skilled blowjob from Zoey) or even in the scenario where Zoey is the one sucking off Fiona what sets her off in the moment she starts cumming is making eye contact with Ashe.

Either way, I think it is more likely that Fiona's initial kink was actually the fact Ashe is her best friend, and Fiona makes a whole point in the latest update about how she tries to keep friendships and romantic relationships apart, so involving Ashe, who is her best and kind of only friend, in her sex life had a very big "forbidden fruit" factor to it.

Maybe she has a bit of a kink for the whole hermaphrodite physiology, but I actually think the main reason she's doing this whole "duplo admiration" thing is because Ashe is a duplo. She isn't attracted to Ashe because she is a duplo, she is attracted to duplos because Ashe is one. The revelation that Ashe is a duplo is how Fiona is internally justifying expressing her feelings of attraction for her best friend: "the revelation that she is a duplo changed things, it is okay for me to think Ashe is hot, because duplos are hot, so it is not weird for me to feel attracted to my best friend".

I think the duplo fetish is just an outlet for the repressed feelings of attraction she already had but kept buried to preserve their friendship.

Also I'm sorry, but if Fiona of all characters isn't an LI, then who is one in this game? Not much left outside of the incest plots and Valeria, and even that is still barely warming up...

I was thinking that was likely the determining factor for Fiona to act like she is acting, couldn't have explained it better myself since it's like 3 AM and I am sleep deprived.
It's still a bit strange just how fast she came around however so it does beg the question that even if she mentally justified a switch due to finding out that Ashe magically has a pussy, why nothing had seemingly happened before. If you have an affection strong enough to turn into that strong of an attraction, there should have been more things pointing towards situations between them, either text-wise or some sort of flashback scene.

On another note, Fiona did have a relationship with Rachel which got cut short after Ashe stopped hanging out with them, there's always the possibility that Fiona hasn't gotten over that and Ashe is close enough to whom she wants, so when she found out about the duplo status, that gave her push enough to follow through. I don't expect this to be the reason, but there's nothing to point against it either unfortunately, but I'm willing to trust Fiona for now as being the only rational-ish character in the game.

That being said, as I personally don't have Fiona as an LI, I don't see any other characters being LI material and as I pointed out in some older post of mine, it does make it a bit awkward for me. Vanessa was a maybe as while she did have zero respect for Ashe as a person and dragged her into a shitty situation for her own gain and also used her as a drug mule, she did almost seem remorseful for it.. but it's not nearly enough for me to view her as an LI.

Also I really doubt Fiona won't be okay with getting penetrated, she will probably be awkward about it and it probably won't be something she prepared herself very well for, but she really doesn't strike me as the kind of person who would make an issue out of that if it means pleasing her partner.

Well, we don't really know that. I'm personally someone who gets the most enjoyment out of giving my partner pleasure, but at the same time I am pretty sure that I wouldn't want to try getting pegged.
I think it's fairly easy for people to have very defined limits while still being out to please others, so I don't think it's as clear-cut as you're thinking.

 

[Alucard421]

My god now that I think about it and all the good comments here, I draw nothing but a sad conclusion for Ashe. She gets sexually harassed by a Rapist Cop, the Dev tries to push her being subdued and even raped by her. She gets exploited by Vanessa and had to come in contact with Elysium and that put her in even bigger trouble with Rapist cop and she doesn't even get an actual apology from Vanessa. And now the game is pushing Vanessa to be the one dominating her. Then the Blackmailer shit is going on and even on Siren path she is being grappled with insecurity and fear.

And Cuckquean route is outright gut wrenching. Stella probably has drugged Evelyn and fucked her so who knows what will happen there. Rachel willingly has sucked off and even had sex with Rapist cop and then tries to gaslight Ashe. Ultimately that one will be the most brutal one since seeing your own sister use you to satisfy her twisted sexual deviancy as she forces her to watch while she fornicates with the same Rapist cop who tried to rape her, it will probably shatter Ashe. Fuck Rachel gaslighted Ashe towards horrible trauma for over a year then she comes and again is gaslighting her in Cuckquean path.

Fuck this is just torture porn or misery porn in disguise. Siren path will probably be better in terms of outcome but since its not the Dev vision, it will not get content. Kitten path will probably get more content as that is preferred Dev vision but in this path, Ashe's will would be subdued and her suffering will grow. Cuckquean route is just misery porn and Rachel will probably shatter her psyche completely.

 

[Ciaran8023]

Fuck this is just torture porn or misery porn in disguise. Siren path will probably be better in terms of outcome but since its not the Dev vision, it will not get content. Kitten path will probably get more content as that is preferred Dev vision but in this path, Ashe's will would be subdued and her suffering will grow. Cuckquean route is just misery porn and Rachel will probably shatter her psyche completely.

It did give me that kind of vibe as I tend to read a lot of shit on the side and there are a few distinct stories that are written simply to agonize the read and to put the main character through as much shit as humanly possible, and as of currently it does feel like the dev is doing exactly that.

I did comment that if Ashe just continuously take L's yet get exceedingly small victories that it ends up being exhausting to witness, to which the dev responded with something along the lines of that 'they'll keep that in mind and balance accordingly, hopefully'. Whether that accounts for something or not is yet to be seen, it's ultimately up to them what that 'balance' should be but I think it might end up being a line that people like us have a hard time accepting.

I genuinely have a hard time seeing how Ashe will be able to gain control and strength enough to win against what she's dealing with, since she's just sinking deeper and deeper with every update.

 

[Alucard421]

It did give me that kind of vibe as I tend to read a lot of shit on the side and there are a few distinct stories that are written simply to agonize the read and to put the main character through as much shit as humanly possible, and as of currently it does feel like the dev is doing exactly that.

I did comment that if Ashe just continuously take L's yet get exceedingly small victories that it ends up being exhausting to witness, to which the dev responded with something along the lines of that 'they'll keep that in mind and balance accordingly, hopefully'. Whether that accounts for something or not is yet to be seen, it's ultimately up to them what that 'balance' should be but I think it might end up being a line that people like us have a hard time accepting.

I genuinely have a hard time seeing how Ashe will be able to gain control and strength enough to win against what she's dealing with, since she's just sinking deeper and deeper with every update.

Oh yeah don't expect them to balance anything. They are writing this story not to resolve trauma but to antagonize Ashe so much to the point the voice in her head finally wins.

This is usually a sick joke the writers love to inflict on their main character especially. Just look at Spider man writers and how much they torture Peter Parker. Just see Re: Zero and how much Subaru suffers. These stories are written as misery porn. And since this fucking world has become cynical, these works are enjoyed by a lot. After all if the fictional character gets as many Ls as they in real life, they can probably relate to that cynicism and pessimism.

 

[Birdnman993]

Did anyone else feel the same way about "Fiona's sudden interest"?
I mean, Ashe says they're best friends and all, Ashe clearly has an interest in her but it was just "Fiona finds out Ashe is a duplo and boom, she performs cunnilingus and then they have sex"
I mean, good for Ashe, who always had feelings about it, but, isn't it a little weird/hypocritical on Fiona's part?

I'll go even further: It almost seems like she fetishized her best friend, you know?
I mean, Fiona may have always hidden this feeling, but "Just after Ashe to tell her about the secret and see a duplo that she gave in to the feeling."
Anyway, I'm still thinking about all this, clearly this line of thinking has flaws.

Understandable doubt, but I think there was already some tension between them, something we saw with the handjob Ashe gives her, but Fiona didn't want to jump, probably because she thought he was a Mene, maybe she wants a partner who can get pregnant in the future and that's why she asked Ashe about it, hence her change of attitude.

Anyway, I don't think it's a hypocrite, she simply discovered something in Ashe that she likes that she didn't know she had (a vagina), if I have a friend and she discovered that she has the same musical taste as me, the next thing I know I'll get married, that simple.

PS: that's just an imaginary example

 

[Birdnman993]

Oh yeah don't expect them to balance anything. They are writing this story not to resolve trauma but to antagonize Ashe so much to the point the voice in her head finally wins.

This is usually a sick joke the writers love to inflict on their main character especially. Just look at Spider man writers and how much they torture Peter Parker. Just see Re: Zero and how much Subaru suffers. These stories are written as misery porn. And since this fucking world has become cynical, these works are enjoyed by a lot. After all if the fictional character gets as many Ls as they in real life, they can probably relate to that cynicism and pessimism.

These examples don't even come close to the level of sadism that Hero Party Must Fall has with the hero.

I hate this train of thought so let's leave it at that.

 

[MheaScD]

Yeah Eruption Imminent maybe a story about how Ashe finally erupts after everything and everyone around her uses her and betrays her adding to the trauma so much that ultimately the Demonic Doppelganger voice in her head finally wins.

i thought the "eruption" was her blowing up at Isabella