VN Ren'Py Eruption Imminent [v0.5.1] [MorriganRae]

[Buletti]

I mean she is lusting after her mother and sister that probably has a bit to do with her heightened libido.

Nah my friend, YOU are doing this

 

[Braga96]

Nah my friend, YOU are doing this

No the game shows that she is. As the player you can choose to act upon/indulge in them or not however. It could also be she is just like that because she is repressed from years of having to hide her sex and her family being super close to her. Of course I think prejudice is the biggest factor of discrimination but the heightened libido can still be true.

 

[doovel]

It's called prejudice. Presumably someone somewhere at some time told the society to think how Duplos are. And then sometimes it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy where Duplos like Ashe even themselves think they are the way they are told.

Most stereotypes are based on some truth, partial or not.

Could just be there was 1 famous example and now society accepts that to be true of everyone.

 

[manscout]

Going through the game's code, never knew that the name Cleo says when getting the MC's name wrong changes based on what's the first letter of the name you gave to the MC. And if you name her "Alice" then Cleo will mistake her name for "Ashe". Really cool attention to detail.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

Most stereotypes are based on some truth, partial or not.

Could just be there was 1 famous example and now society accepts that to be true of everyone.

More like infamous.

 

[Ciaran8023]

No the game shows that she is. As the player you can choose to act upon/indulge in them or not however. It could also be she is just like that because she is repressed from years of having to hide her sex and her family being super close to her. Of course I think prejudice is the biggest factor of discrimination but the heightened libido can still be true.

I was about to type this, I'd more wager that her reactions are a byproduct of being so completely disconnected from the rest of the world due to prejudice, persecution, fear and anxiety that her libido is trying to find some outlet given that Ashe doesn't exactly hit the town for a one night stand.
It's difficult to suppress natural urges and they have a tendency to weasel their way out regardless, sometimes in ways that we might not want.

 

[Birdnman993]

If we talk about Futas that turn into animals for not giving free rein to their libido “Futa's World of NTR” is a good example of this, there the FC if she doesn't use sexual suppressants or look for a way to relieve herself she finds it hard to breathe and think until she only thinks of looking for any girl to rape her, here in EI it is not so serious, apart from erections for anything and a great capacity to cum it does not seem that the Duplos are a danger for the society of their world and more taking into account that they are a very small part of the population.

 

[doovel]

If we talk about Futas who become animals because they don't give vent to their libido “Futa's World of NTR” is a good example of this, there the FC if he doesn't use sexual suppressants or look for a way to relieve himself it is difficult for him to breathe and think until he only thinks of looking for any girl to rape her, here in EI it is not that serious, apart from erections for anything and a great capacity to cum it doesn't seem that the Duplos are a danger to the society of his world and more taking into account that they are a very small part of the population.

Feels odd to call futas hims, but I like your example.

Basically the way this game describes duplo libido is like that, wanting to fuck every biped that looks vaguely humanoid.

Except that the ones with the highest libidos we've seen have all been monos, Fiona is constantly horny and all the big pushy girls on the CQ path have been monos as well. Not to ignore Natasha who's constantly pushing for sex with everything that moves.

I don't recall a number or indication of the % of duplos in EI, does anyone know? (Might've been mentioned somewhere)

 

[Cygnus X-1]

If we talk about Futas who become animals because they don't give vent to their libido “Futa's World of NTR” is a good example of this, there the FC if he doesn't use sexual suppressants or look for a way to relieve himself it is difficult for him to breathe and think until he only thinks of looking for any girl to rape her, here in EI it is not that serious, apart from erections for anything and a great capacity to cum it doesn't seem that the Duplos are a danger to the society of his world and more taking into account that they are a very small part of the population.

The mc could make a fortune donating sperm to sperm banks.

 

[Birdnman993]

The mc could make a fortune donating sperm to sperm banks.

It depends, if there were birth problems maybe.

Feels odd to call futas hims, but I like your example.

Translation error, I always forget.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

It depends, if there were birth problems maybe.

There are games where this is the case. And even if this is not the case, I'm sure there are rich women or couples that have trouble with conceiving a child.

 

[manscout]

Basically the way this game describes duplo libido is like that, wanting to fuck every biped that looks vaguely humanoid.

Except that the ones with the highest libidos we've seen have all been monos, Fiona is constantly horny and all the big pushy girls on the CQ path have been monos as well. Not to ignore Natasha who's constantly pushing for sex with everything that moves.

I generally agree with the idea that duplo libido is highly exaggerated for bigoted reasons, but that doesn't necessarily preclude duplos from having a higher libido than other people either.

I think that it is important to make the distinction between having the "highest libido" and having a healthy sex drive be a part of your life.

Fiona does a bit of the whole "locker room talk" stuff and is generally open with her sexuality and able to "return fire" when things start heating up, but I would hardly call her a sexfiend. Zoey on the other hand...(I know Fiona was the one that introduced the vibe panties into play as a gag but I still think Zoey is like 95% responsible for that sleepover ending up as horny as it did)

Also Fiona has other hobbies, her mmo gaming, rpg groups, seemingly stable job situation, etc.

Ashe spends most of her days early in the game and before its start just shut in her room masturbating almost all day. Fiona is her only friend that manages to get her out of the house for anything but her job, and her job is also in a relatively precarious situation. Her concerns about her libido are constantly haunting her thoughts and also guiding most of her decision-making (iirc Ashe justifies her smoking weed as being a way of numbing her libido).

There's a valid discussion to be had about how much Ashe's problems are caused by her traumas and the discrimination she suffers, rather than a direct biological consequence of her being a duplo. But I would not say that her problematic relationship with her sexuality and constant need to suppress it indicates that her libido is any lower than Fiona's, and neither would I say that Fiona's libido is necessarily high just because she's more open about it and comfortable with it.

I don't recall a number or indication of the % of duplos in EI, does anyone know? (Might've been mentioned somewhere)

I do not remember for a fact, but have the vague idea of "10%" in my head. No certainty and probably misremembering though.

 

[Braga96]

Feels odd to call futas hims, but I like your example.

Basically the way this game describes duplo libido is like that, wanting to fuck every biped that looks vaguely humanoid.

Except that the ones with the highest libidos we've seen have all been monos, Fiona is constantly horny and all the big pushy girls on the CQ path have been monos as well. Not to ignore Natasha who's constantly pushing for sex with everything that moves.

I don't recall a number or indication of the % of duplos in EI, does anyone know? (Might've been mentioned somewhere)

Apparently its low enough that you can go most of your life without ever meeting one at least knowingly.

 

[Ciaran8023]

There's a valid discussion to be had about how much Ashe's problems are caused by her traumas and the discrimination she suffers, rather than a direct biological consequence of her being a duplo. But I would not say that her problematic relationship with her sexuality and constant need to suppress it indicates that her libido is any lower than Fiona's, and neither would I say that Fiona's libido is necessarily high just because she's more open about it and comfortable with it.

I mean it's always difficult to gauge any kind of information from a small sample size. We've yet to see any other duplo, though the monos we've seen seem to generally be a lot more sexual than expected given what we've seen of Ashe. Her being effectively a gooner isn't really indicative of her libido and can be more attributed to learned behaviour from, as you noted, likely a combination of trauma and having her entire life spent hearing 'duplos are uncontrollable sex-fiends'. You can absolutely convince yourself that you have a higher libido than you actually do and just force yourself to keep masturbating.

Moreover, even if duplos supposedly have a higher libido than most doesn't mean that Ashe needs to either. There are plenty of people in the world who are even asexual and have no libido to speak of, so it's not out of the ballpark either.

On top of this, it's a porn game. We're only ever shown sexually charged situations because it's what the game is about, so that also skews things.

tl;dr, it's impossible to say but just a mildly educated hunch from the small sample size we have in the game, it certainly looks like monos/females have a higher libido than duplos.

 

[manscout]

I mean it's always difficult to gauge any kind of information from a small sample size. We've yet to see any other duplo, though the monos we've seen seem to generally be a lot more sexual than expected given what we've seen of Ashe. Her being effectively a gooner isn't really indicative of her libido and can be more attributed to learned behaviour from, as you noted, likely a combination of trauma and having her entire life spent hearing 'duplos are uncontrollable sex-fiends'. You can absolutely convince yourself that you have a higher libido than you actually do and just force yourself to keep masturbating.

Moreover, even if duplos supposedly have a higher libido than most doesn't mean that Ashe needs to either. There are plenty of people in the world who are even asexual and have no libido to speak of, so it's not out of the ballpark either.

On top of this, it's a porn game. We're only ever shown sexually charged situations because it's what the game is about, so that also skews things.

tl;dr, it's impossible to say but just a mildly educated hunch from the small sample size we have in the game, it certainly looks like monos/females have a higher libido than duplos.

I don't disagree with your analysis, but like you said, small sample size. What you can infer from so little exposure shouldn't go against what's established by the game's lore. Even if duplos are discriminated against and their heightened libido is likely exaggerated, there is a conversation Ashe can have with Evelyn where she says she should talk with her doctor about going on some neuroactive drugs to suppress her libido, but Evelyn urges her against that because of the nasty side-effects those drugs have and they should only be a last resource, and that they should first try to get through Ashe's problems with support from her family.

The fact that there are established medical practices designed to treat duplo libido indicates that there is some truth to it. I mean we could argue that maybe the discrimination against duplos is so insidious that even the medical science is biased against them, but I think that until the game says more on the subject, going that far would be going against Occam's razor.

 

[Ciaran8023]

I don't disagree with your analysis, but like you said, small sample size. What you can infer from so little exposure shouldn't go against what's established by the game's lore. Even if duplos are discriminated against and their heightened libido is likely exaggerated, there is a conversation Ashe can have with Evelyn where she says she should talk with her doctor about going on some neuroactive drugs to suppress her libido, but Evelyn urges her against that because of the nasty side-effects those drugs have and they should only be a last resource, and that they should first try to get through Ashe's problems with support from her family.

The fact that there are established medical practices designed to treat duplo libido indicates that there is some truth to it. I mean we could argue that maybe the discrimination against duplos is so insidious that even the medical science is biased against them, but I think that until the game says more on the subject, going that far would be going against Occam's razor.

Did Ashe specify that it was specifically for duplos, or just in general? Because we do have real life treatments and medications for overactive libidos and people suffering from hypersexuality. I can only vaguely remember this conversation so I cannot recall if it was noted that it was specifically for duplos, or just a general type of medicine aimed at lowering libidos.

If it is medicine specifically for duplos then Ashe is likely an outlier since she seems a lot less sexually out of control than most people we've seen thus far, outside of being a lil' gooner gremlin but we've already established likely causes for that outside of her libido.

 

[Braga96]

I mean it's always difficult to gauge any kind of information from a small sample size. We've yet to see any other duplo, though the monos we've seen seem to generally be a lot more sexual than expected given what we've seen of Ashe. Her being effectively a gooner isn't really indicative of her libido and can be more attributed to learned behaviour from, as you noted, likely a combination of trauma and having her entire life spent hearing 'duplos are uncontrollable sex-fiends'. You can absolutely convince yourself that you have a higher libido than you actually do and just force yourself to keep masturbating.

Moreover, even if duplos supposedly have a higher libido than most doesn't mean that Ashe needs to either. There are plenty of people in the world who are even asexual and have no libido to speak of, so it's not out of the ballpark either.

On top of this, it's a porn game. We're only ever shown sexually charged situations because it's what the game is about, so that also skews things.

tl;dr, it's impossible to say but just a mildly educated hunch from the small sample size we have in the game, it certainly looks like monos/females have a higher libido than duplos.

On the topic that monos/females seem to have higher libidos than duplos is because the mono/female characters are free to express their sexuality without societal backlash or at least until Morrigan introduces more religious/conservative characters like the teachers wife who is a priestess. If Ashe wasnt trying to actively holdback her libido its likely that she would be the same or more than Fiona or Zoey

 

[Ciaran8023]

On the topic that monos/females seem to have higher libidos than duplos is because the mono/female characters are free to express their sexuality without societal backlash or at least until Morrigan introduces more religious/conservative characters like the teachers wife who is a priestess. If Ashe wasnt trying to actively holdback her libido its likely that she would be the same or more than Fiona or Zoey

I don't think she'd ever be fully at the level of Fiona or Zoey given that the both of them seem very sexually free so to speak, and Ashe has to deal with her anxiety. Even if she would grow up normally/non-persecuted, she seems to be a naturally anxious individual and it's not exactly common for people like that to let loose. Keep in mind, even in the real world, not everyone has the same interest/drive/behaviour as one another.
Though it's a good point for sure, she does try to hold back a lot due to a combination of fear and anxiety.

Honestly, we could argue that her libido might be exaggerated due to her predicament aswell. Anxiety and stress tends to be very rough to deal with and outside of medication and therapy, sexual release is a good way to get some dopamine, oxytocin and endorphins into your system to combat that. There's a very real possibility that she might not even be a gooner if she wasn't in the situation she is right now.

 

[doovel]

I don't disagree with your analysis, but like you said, small sample size. What you can infer from so little exposure shouldn't go against what's established by the game's lore. Even if duplos are discriminated against and their heightened libido is likely exaggerated, there is a conversation Ashe can have with Evelyn where she says she should talk with her doctor about going on some neuroactive drugs to suppress her libido, but Evelyn urges her against that because of the nasty side-effects those drugs have and they should only be a last resource, and that they should first try to get through Ashe's problems with support from her family.

The fact that there are established medical practices designed to treat duplo libido indicates that there is some truth to it. I mean we could argue that maybe the discrimination against duplos is so insidious that even the medical science is biased against them, but I think that until the game says more on the subject, going that far would be going against Occam's razor.

I rather make my assessment based on what the dev shows, rather than what they tell us is the case. Very much a proponent of death of the author, don’t care for their intention.

Libido suppressants would work on everyone, not just duplos. Could still be part of the stigma/prejudice. And medical bias isn’t completely uncommon in our world either.

But I will reiterate that so far I have not seen Ashe be hornier than the average teenage boy.

 

[doovel]

I don't think she'd ever be fully at the level of Fiona or Zoey given that the both of them seem very sexually free so to speak, and Ashe has to deal with her anxiety. Even if she would grow up normally/non-persecuted, she seems to be a naturally anxious individual and it's not exactly common for people like that to let loose. Keep in mind, even in the real world, not everyone has the same interest/drive/behaviour as one another.
Though it's a good point for sure, she does try to hold back a lot due to a combination of fear and anxiety.

I would expect at least some “deranged” absurd sex drive driven behaviour if what the dev said was true. So far we have zilch. And like you said Fiona and Zoey are light years ahead of Ashe. And so are Kate, Natasha, Chloe, Lexi and all the CQ monos for that matter.

The only one with less sex drive than Ashe, so far at least seems to be Evelyn.

On the her holding back, I had less the impression that this was about sex and more the impression it was about romance.

Honestly, we could argue that her libido might be exaggerated due to her predicament aswell. Anxiety and stress tends to be very rough to deal with and outside of medication and therapy, sexual release is a good way to get some dopamine, oxytocin and endorphins into your system to combat that. There's a very real possibility that she might not even be a gooner if she wasn't in the situation she is right now.

Counter point could be that anxiety meds also tend to suppress libido. Don’t know if she actually takes meds in the game? Or has taken for that matter.