xeivous

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We're currently on Day 17
What gives you that number? I counted through every day transition and it lines up with what dialogue there is that references time like Fiona's comments on Ashe changing after losing her virginity.

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manscout

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English is not my 1st language, so please bare with me.

I get what you mean with your question about what the 3 branches add and could not be done with the "old" model.

Well I would say first thing for me is that it "feels" different. Having to commit to a path that (hopefully) will develop in a unique way creates another form of involvement as just being able to hit "back" a couple of times and then check the next sex scene. I personally would never call it "immersive" for me, because I am neither a 20 (or however old Ashe is) futa in a world full of hot girls nor would I identify with a sub or NTR character. I am nut sure if I can fully describe what I mean but it is a feeling of "I will make a sub on this route and that is how she will be". This would not be the case if one could freely jump between choices. And my guess would be it is what you don´t like about the branching :)
Thank you for the feedback!

I think I understand what you mean. You like stronger indications that Ashe's character is changing, that she is progressing towards something specific. The route-split scene is very overtly and makes more of a spectacle out of the idea that you made a big choice that changed the entire story.

I don't think that promise is properly reflected in the game yet. People are excited by the prospect of Ashe having a big character transformation, but some people are getting disappointed by that expectation. Main example I have seen is about Siren Ashe still having too much anxiety or being too obedient to the blackmailer. I think it is a bit silly to expect Ashe to go full "I don't give a fuck" or removing the blackmail plot since those have been integral parts of the main story for quite a while now, but I also don't blame people for being disappointed with that since the route-split promised a "badass Ashe" on the siren route, and it is disappointing to have her be a "badass" ONLY when it isn't disruptive to the main story the dev wants to tell.

Maybe we need to see what will happen in the party since it is the next big event the game is building towards, but if it ends up being something like "Ashe's attitude does not change the outcome of the main events, only changes who she ends up having sex with (siren ashe gets a dom scene, kitten ashe gets a sub scene, cuckquean ashe gets a ntr scene) while everything else happens the same way" then I suspect people will have their expectations disappointed by the route-split.
Second would be I guess that I also enjoy Project Myriam a lot. Here you have litterally a ton of decisions that follow each other very closely. It is cool in itś own right as you at least get the feeling of freedom to choose what you want. But it also can take away a little from the story. The Dinner with Vanessa scene for example runs more or less on it's own and you can follow how the bonding and sparkle somehow starts with them. In Project Myriam my guess would be that you might have had 4 or 5 choices within this scene. So the flow of the scene is very different (at least for me). Again I also like this but it somehow does not really fit for the way the story is told in this VN.
I haven't played Project Myriam but I think I understand you here too. Getting the story constantly broken up by too many choice menus can make it feel disjointed.

But I am happy to say that, at least for your example of the Vanessa date, my mod to remove the route-split did not add a single extra menu break to that entire scene. I only made some extra choices potentially be available to the menus that are already there (blowjob request for "non-siren" routes and grope/nipple-tease for kitten/siren). Those choices show up during unavoidable menus that are already there in the official game. The favor menu involves other choices like money or future favor and the make-out menu is already there because you also always had the option of backing out from kissing Vanessa, so adding extra options to those menus is not really disrupting the story.
And lastly I think my hope is that in the long run the branches will really develop in different ways that might get longer unique story arcs. But this might be wishful thinking.

Those are the things at the top of my head why I would say I prefer the branching system. There might be more but I forgot about them :D

I hope I could express my reasoning enough.

Cheers mate!
I appreciate you taking the time to list those things. If the dev is sticking with the route-split, I also do hope to see them being made more unique. But I also do have some other problems with the route-split mechanic, like the way the Cuckquean route is bundling together some more light-hearted voyeur scenes with harder NTR scenes (I don't like being forced to have the latter happen in my playthrough just to enjoy the first).

You did give me something to think about with Ashe's character progression though. This is just a game-design mod, so I won't really introduce any new graphical elements or elaborate original scenes, but I might try to tinker with the presentation so that the player can feel "recognized" when they are doing playthroughs that are STRONGLY invested into either being only dom, or only sub, or only cuck. I probably won't be able to make it as eye-catching as the route-split scene, but I don't really want to mislead and entice the player with promises of things that aren't in the game yet anyway.
 

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What gives you that number? I counted through every day transition and it lines up with what dialogue there is that references time like Fiona's comments on Ashe changing after losing her virginity.

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That’s definitely 17 days dude
Chapter 1 is 3 days, Chapter 2 is 2, Chapter 3 is 5, Chapter 4 is 4, and Chapter 5 is 3. Chapters 1-2 are 5 days plus 5 from Chapter 3 brings us to 10, plus 4 is 14 then 14+3 is 17
 
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Man, that was awesome! I hope the band is big enough to fill a stadium with 100k spectators. Imagine Ashe and Vanessa being in the first row :)
Well, they did that.
"Live at Vulva Stadium '86", but Ashe is too young to remember it. ;)

To be honest, I was laughing my ass off from the fact how easily you can twist most things like lyrics, song or album titles from Queen catalogue to turn it into sex parodies from futa-world. Just think about that potential...

Tie Your Mother Down
Jealousy
(NTR unavoidable)
Don't Edge Me Now
We Will Fuck You
Tear It Up
Gender Kind of Magic
Who Wants to Breed Forever?
Breakthru
(sphincter edition / refurbished as song about anal initiation)
Cum Must Fall
I Want it All
Delilah
:p

I'm just next guy on the street. Don't blame me for humming "Fat Bottomed Girls" and changing its lyrics to fit "Eruption Imminent" vibe. Maybe we will get Futa Guitar Hero with sing along option as a spinoff - some day, one day...
 

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The FMC is such an unlikable character, the constant self doubt, non stop lack of self esteem , constant inner monologues, zero sense of control and then you throw in the blackmail story and she just becomes unbearable....The soap opera writing is frustrating as fuck , especially with Fiona's sister. It's a real shame too because I normally avoid these types of games but I was drawn to the screenshots and idea behind the story , hell I even downloaded this despite their being 0 animations ,,,but damn the way she is written just kills the experience. The absolute worst part is every other female is written really well and you are drawn to their stories and want to learn more about them....a shame really
 

xeivous

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Eh, it's not like she's perpetually down in the dumps. Ashe on her good days is quite enjoyable and her problems don't feel like she's some sort of cosmic plaything like what happens with some MCs, mostly when it comes to feminization games. I'll admit I'm not very convinced about the necessity of the blackmail plot yet, but the other facets of the plot that are Ashe struggling with her mental health and the discrimination she's hiding from is very compelling as are the love interests in general.
 

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The FMC is such an unlikable character, the constant self doubt, non stop lack of self esteem , constant inner monologues, zero sense of control and then you throw in the blackmail story and she just becomes unbearable....The soap opera writing is frustrating as fuck , especially with Fiona's sister. It's a real shame too because I normally avoid these types of games but I was drawn to the screenshots and idea behind the story , hell I even downloaded this despite their being 0 animations ,,,but damn the way she is written just kills the experience. The absolute worst part is every other female is written really well and you are drawn to their stories and want to learn more about them....a shame really
Yeah well, you know, that's just, like, your oppinion man.

I would highly appreciate if you would write it like that and not like a form of universal statement or truth.

A little above I tried to explain, why I personally find the writing and the plot very good and fitting for the VN.

So everyone has their own oppinion and that is totally alright.

Cheers!
 

Karla Jean

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The FMC is such an unlikable character, the constant self doubt, non stop lack of self esteem , constant inner monologues, zero sense of control and then you throw in the blackmail story and she just becomes unbearable....The soap opera writing is frustrating as fuck , especially with Fiona's sister. It's a real shame too because I normally avoid these types of games but I was drawn to the screenshots and idea behind the story , hell I even downloaded this despite their being 0 animations ,,,but damn the way she is written just kills the experience. The absolute worst part is every other female is written really well and you are drawn to their stories and want to learn more about them....a shame really
You don't have to specify Female Main Character. She's the only Main Character. You can just say MC.
 

LordWanze

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You don't have to specify Female Main Character. She's the only Main Character. You can just say MC.
And she is not female ;)
She's the main reason I play this game.
No other character in the game comes even close to her personality depth.
And her appearance is exactly what I like.
So it is just like in the former comment: personal preference
 
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The FMC is such an unlikable character, the constant self doubt, non stop lack of self esteem , constant inner monologues, zero sense of control and then you throw in the blackmail story and she just becomes unbearable....
If you put it this way, Ashe is destined to be Delilah's partner. (In some routes at least...)
 
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What are some dream event(s)/scene(s) for each route that you have, this also includes pipe dreams.

Mine are:

Siren - Dominating Natasha
Dominating Cleo, preferably in front of Isabella
Rachel and Evelyn threesome
Fucking Marita, preferably in front of her wife
Becoming Dom friends with Luna
Making Vanessa jealous
Making Zoey addicted to Ashe
Sending a video to Eliza's ex-wife

Kitten - Making Natasha addicted to Ashe
Jessica and Moira Threesome
Kendra topping Ashe
Meeting Stella
Bottoming for Kimmy
Ashe gang-banged

Cuckquean - Victoria "stealing" Kate back
Sent video of Natasha fucking Rachel
Evelyn gang-banged
Fiona and Evelyn threesome
Sent video of Stella fucking Evelyn
Moira fucking Evelyn
Natasha fucking Evelyn
Luna fucking Vanessa
 

xeivous

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A Fiona and Delilah threesome would be fun, maybe with siren Ashe having a strong say in who gets positioned where as I do like the idea of Ashe railing Fiona as she fucks her sister.

Also that spot where Ashe smokes weed/hangs out is a prime spot for semi-public sex. Frankly I'm surprised nothing lewd has happened there yet.
 

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Making Natasha addicted to Ashe
Do you mean it like this? The other way around would make more Sense to me in the kitten route.

I also would like to see some chastity cage Action. Maybe another task from the blackmailer to have the buttplug and chastity cage and then visit someone (maybe Vanessa) who finds out about Ashes sub tendencies and they start going down that road even further.
 
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Do you mean it like this? The other way around would make more Sense to me in the kitten route.

I also would like to see some chastity cage Action. Maybe another task from the blackmailer to have the buttplug and chastity cage and then visit someone (maybe Vanessa) who finds out about Ashes sub tendencies and they start going down that road even further.
A sub having power over the dom is a more nuanced examination of the power dynamics in a dom/sub relationship. It'd be interesting to see, if it indeed happens.
 
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