xeivous

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Eh, it's not like she's perpetually down in the dumps. Ashe on her good days is quite enjoyable and her problems don't feel like she's some sort of cosmic plaything like what happens with some MCs, mostly when it comes to feminization games. I'll admit I'm not very convinced about the necessity of the blackmail plot yet, but the other facets of the plot that are Ashe struggling with her mental health and the discrimination she's hiding from is very compelling as are the love interests in general.
 

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The FMC is such an unlikable character, the constant self doubt, non stop lack of self esteem , constant inner monologues, zero sense of control and then you throw in the blackmail story and she just becomes unbearable....The soap opera writing is frustrating as fuck , especially with Fiona's sister. It's a real shame too because I normally avoid these types of games but I was drawn to the screenshots and idea behind the story , hell I even downloaded this despite their being 0 animations ,,,but damn the way she is written just kills the experience. The absolute worst part is every other female is written really well and you are drawn to their stories and want to learn more about them....a shame really
Yeah well, you know, that's just, like, your oppinion man.

I would highly appreciate if you would write it like that and not like a form of universal statement or truth.

A little above I tried to explain, why I personally find the writing and the plot very good and fitting for the VN.

So everyone has their own oppinion and that is totally alright.

Cheers!
 

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The FMC is such an unlikable character, the constant self doubt, non stop lack of self esteem , constant inner monologues, zero sense of control and then you throw in the blackmail story and she just becomes unbearable....The soap opera writing is frustrating as fuck , especially with Fiona's sister. It's a real shame too because I normally avoid these types of games but I was drawn to the screenshots and idea behind the story , hell I even downloaded this despite their being 0 animations ,,,but damn the way she is written just kills the experience. The absolute worst part is every other female is written really well and you are drawn to their stories and want to learn more about them....a shame really
You don't have to specify Female Main Character. She's the only Main Character. You can just say MC.
 

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You don't have to specify Female Main Character. She's the only Main Character. You can just say MC.
And she is not female ;)
She's the main reason I play this game.
No other character in the game comes even close to her personality depth.
And her appearance is exactly what I like.
So it is just like in the former comment: personal preference
 
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The FMC is such an unlikable character, the constant self doubt, non stop lack of self esteem , constant inner monologues, zero sense of control and then you throw in the blackmail story and she just becomes unbearable....
If you put it this way, Ashe is destined to be Delilah's partner. (In some routes at least...)
 
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What are some dream event(s)/scene(s) for each route that you have, this also includes pipe dreams.

Mine are:

Siren - Dominating Natasha
Dominating Cleo, preferably in front of Isabella
Rachel and Evelyn threesome
Fucking Marita, preferably in front of her wife
Becoming Dom friends with Luna
Making Vanessa jealous
Making Zoey addicted to Ashe
Sending a video to Eliza's ex-wife

Kitten - Making Natasha addicted to Ashe
Jessica and Moira Threesome
Kendra topping Ashe
Meeting Stella
Bottoming for Kimmy
Ashe gang-banged

Cuckquean - Victoria "stealing" Kate back
Sent video of Natasha fucking Rachel
Evelyn gang-banged
Fiona and Evelyn threesome
Sent video of Stella fucking Evelyn
Moira fucking Evelyn
Natasha fucking Evelyn
Luna fucking Vanessa
 

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A Fiona and Delilah threesome would be fun, maybe with siren Ashe having a strong say in who gets positioned where as I do like the idea of Ashe railing Fiona as she fucks her sister.

Also that spot where Ashe smokes weed/hangs out is a prime spot for semi-public sex. Frankly I'm surprised nothing lewd has happened there yet.
 

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Making Natasha addicted to Ashe
Do you mean it like this? The other way around would make more Sense to me in the kitten route.

I also would like to see some chastity cage Action. Maybe another task from the blackmailer to have the buttplug and chastity cage and then visit someone (maybe Vanessa) who finds out about Ashes sub tendencies and they start going down that road even further.
 
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Do you mean it like this? The other way around would make more Sense to me in the kitten route.

I also would like to see some chastity cage Action. Maybe another task from the blackmailer to have the buttplug and chastity cage and then visit someone (maybe Vanessa) who finds out about Ashes sub tendencies and they start going down that road even further.
A sub having power over the dom is a more nuanced examination of the power dynamics in a dom/sub relationship. It'd be interesting to see, if it indeed happens.
 

Buletti

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A sub having power over the dom is a more nuanced examination of the power dynamics in a dom/sub relationship. It'd be interesting to see, if it indeed happens.
Now I understand what you mean.

However the way Natasha and Ashe are portraied so far in the kitten route I have my daubts if they have the personalities to make this happen.
 

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Now I understand what you mean.

However the way Natasha and Ashe are portraied so far in the kitten route I have my daubts if they have the personalities to make this happen.
Ashe becomes the drug that Natasha can't do without. A little withholding here, a lot of teasing there, I could see Ashe taking power from below.
 

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Ashe becomes the drug that Natasha can't do without. A little withholding here, a lot of teasing there, I could see Ashe taking power from below.
Hmm, I really don't see that on the kitten route the way Ashe acted so far.

But here is another unlikely theory regarding the blackmailer:

It is the vlogger Girl:

She might not be as dumb/bimbo as she presents herself to the Stream. She might have some long lasting hatred from school, learned that Vanessa developped some feelings for Ashe and is now trying to get them both. She also could be the girl from the last scene trying to drug the party with Elysium either for revenge or content or both.

I always wondered why she was introduced with such a big scene in a very prominent point of the plot in this Update. The scene was to build up for just a throwaway character.

So maybe she was there to see how her blackmail on ashe was working.
 
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Hungover00

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Hmm, I really don't see that on the kitten route the way Ashe acted so far.

But here is another unlikely theory regarding the blackmailer:

It is the vlogger Girl:

She might not be as dumb/bimbo as she presents herself to the Stream. She might have some long lasting hatred from school, learned that Vanessa developped some feelings for Ashe and is now trying to get them both. She also could be the girl from the last scene trying to drug the party with Elysium either for revenge or content or both.

I always wondered why she was introduced with such a big scene in a very prominent point of the plot in this Update. The scene was to build up for just a throwaway character.

So maybe she was there to see how her blackmail on ashe was working.
But how could Vlogger girl know about Ashe's duplo status? And why would she start blackmailing her the night she loses her virginity? What's the end goal?

Did Vanessa and Ashe go to the same school? I never got that vibe.
 

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But how could Vlogger girl know about Ashe's duplo status? And why would she start blackmailing her the night she loses her virginity? What's the end goal?

Did Vanessa and Ashe go to the same school? I never got that vibe.
Vanessa and the vlogger girl went to school together.

No idea how she would have known about Ashe being duplo. That's what the story would have to reveal. But we already established that the other suspects like Moira also had not really a chance to find out.
 

Hungover00

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Vanessa and the vlogger girl went to school together.

No idea how she would have known about Ashe being duplo. That's what the story would have to reveal. But we already established that the other suspects like Moira also had not really a chance to find out.
Moira is a powerful politico, that has the possibility to acquire Ashe's medical records through back channels. Delilah had the opportunity to walk past Ashe and Zoey having sex and see Ashe's duplo status. Victoria might have cameras in her house that would have caught the same event. Vlogger girl never has any of that opportunity. If Ashe managed to keep the secret from Fiona until after she lost her virginity, what are the chances that random Vlogger girl that has no connection to Ashe until after the blackmail starts, would know her secret? Also, why would she blackmail Ashe that way, to perform increasingly sexual acts with no direct payoff for the blackmailer?

I'd need a lot more evidence for that theory to work. It's not impossible, but so improbable that the difference is negligible.

And if Ashe didn't go to the same school with Vanessa, she didn't go to the same school as VloggerG.
 
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Moira is a powerful politico, that has the possibility to acquire Ashe's medical records through back channels.
Why would she do that? To know if her daughter's gf is healthy and doesn't have STD? Or to check if they're not duplo because she hates them?
 
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If you put it this way, Ashe is destined to be Delilah's partner. (In some routes at least...)
A Fiona and Delilah threesome would be fun, maybe with siren Ashe having a strong say in who gets positioned where as I do like the idea of Ashe railing Fiona as she fucks her sister.
Agreed that Delilah and Ashe will eventually hook up and a solo scene with Delilah would happen first.

Now that we've already been fucked in the pussy by Fiona, if anything were to happen with the two of the sisters together, I think it's more likely that Ashe would be in between them with Fiona fucking Ashe's pussy again while Ashe fucks Delilah. It would be having the two sisters sharing in a sexual experience together that could later (same scene, after a while or another scene more likely) lead to the two of them having sex directly.

I don't think even a strongly dom Ashe would initiate that for them without the two of them succumbing to their desires on their own. It would be a group experience that opens them up to the idea.

The game doesn't have incest listed as a tag but we kind of already kind of had incest with the scene featuring Ashe's sister before and we seem to be heading that way with other character relationships as well so a Delilah & Fiona coupling is a possibility at least. That is, of course, if the dev hasn't said explicitly otherwise and I missed it somehow. Haven't read all 238 pages of this thread yet.


Now, I don't really see this happening, but I would be here for it if the dev wanted to explore that kind of connection between the sisters. Ashe would definitely need to be the bridge between them, one way or another.
 
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