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Ciaran8023

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On the topic that monos/females seem to have higher libidos than duplos is because the mono/female characters are free to express their sexuality without societal backlash or at least until Morrigan introduces more religious/conservative characters like the teachers wife who is a priestess. If Ashe wasnt trying to actively holdback her libido its likely that she would be the same or more than Fiona or Zoey
I don't think she'd ever be fully at the level of Fiona or Zoey given that the both of them seem very sexually free so to speak, and Ashe has to deal with her anxiety. Even if she would grow up normally/non-persecuted, she seems to be a naturally anxious individual and it's not exactly common for people like that to let loose. Keep in mind, even in the real world, not everyone has the same interest/drive/behaviour as one another.
Though it's a good point for sure, she does try to hold back a lot due to a combination of fear and anxiety.

Honestly, we could argue that her libido might be exaggerated due to her predicament aswell. Anxiety and stress tends to be very rough to deal with and outside of medication and therapy, sexual release is a good way to get some dopamine, oxytocin and endorphins into your system to combat that. There's a very real possibility that she might not even be a gooner if she wasn't in the situation she is right now.
 

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I don't disagree with your analysis, but like you said, small sample size. What you can infer from so little exposure shouldn't go against what's established by the game's lore. Even if duplos are discriminated against and their heightened libido is likely exaggerated, there is a conversation Ashe can have with Evelyn where she says she should talk with her doctor about going on some neuroactive drugs to suppress her libido, but Evelyn urges her against that because of the nasty side-effects those drugs have and they should only be a last resource, and that they should first try to get through Ashe's problems with support from her family.

The fact that there are established medical practices designed to treat duplo libido indicates that there is some truth to it. I mean we could argue that maybe the discrimination against duplos is so insidious that even the medical science is biased against them, but I think that until the game says more on the subject, going that far would be going against Occam's razor.
I rather make my assessment based on what the dev shows, rather than what they tell us is the case. Very much a proponent of death of the author, don’t care for their intention.

Libido suppressants would work on everyone, not just duplos. Could still be part of the stigma/prejudice. And medical bias isn’t completely uncommon in our world either.

But I will reiterate that so far I have not seen Ashe be hornier than the average teenage boy.
 
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I don't think she'd ever be fully at the level of Fiona or Zoey given that the both of them seem very sexually free so to speak, and Ashe has to deal with her anxiety. Even if she would grow up normally/non-persecuted, she seems to be a naturally anxious individual and it's not exactly common for people like that to let loose. Keep in mind, even in the real world, not everyone has the same interest/drive/behaviour as one another.
Though it's a good point for sure, she does try to hold back a lot due to a combination of fear and anxiety.
I would expect at least some “deranged” absurd sex drive driven behaviour if what the dev said was true. So far we have zilch. And like you said Fiona and Zoey are light years ahead of Ashe. And so are Kate, Natasha, Chloe, Lexi and all the CQ monos for that matter.

The only one with less sex drive than Ashe, so far at least seems to be Evelyn.

On the her holding back, I had less the impression that this was about sex and more the impression it was about romance.

Honestly, we could argue that her libido might be exaggerated due to her predicament aswell. Anxiety and stress tends to be very rough to deal with and outside of medication and therapy, sexual release is a good way to get some dopamine, oxytocin and endorphins into your system to combat that. There's a very real possibility that she might not even be a gooner if she wasn't in the situation she is right now.
Counter point could be that anxiety meds also tend to suppress libido. Don’t know if she actually takes meds in the game? Or has taken for that matter.
 
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I would expect at least some “deranged” absurd sex drive driven behaviour if what the dev said was true. So far we have zilch. And like you said Fiona and Zoey are light years ahead of Ashe. And so are Kate, Natasha, Chloe, Lexi and all the CQ monos for that matter.

The only one with less sex drive than Ashe, so far at least seems to be Evelyn.

On the her holding back, I had less the impression that this was about sex and more the impression it was about romance.
Romance could actually be a pretty solid factor aswell, it would fit in with her current predicament in that she wants someone whom she's certain will want her for who she is and not get judged by them. I hadn't considered that before, that's a very good point.

doovel said:
Counter point could be that anxiety meds also tend to suppress libido. Don’t know if she actually takes meds in the game? Or has taken for that matter.
As far as I can remember, the only 'meds' she's on is a lot of weed. I don't think she's on any prescription drugs at all, but I could also be misremembering.
 

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So, who the hell is Oriana? What makes her so special, that only her can Vanessa trust? :) What big bad secret does Vanessa know and why would she have to divulge it at the party and not talk about it somewhere more private? Is it connected to Luna and her friend? Finally, Delilah could get more than she bargained for... :sneaky: Looking forward to her running around naked like a mad woman and jumping into the pool and making a big mess in general. :D
I also hope the mc doesn't drink any alcohol and just quietly slips out with a girl before the whole place goes to hell. :sneaky:
 
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I also hope the mc doesn't drink any alcohol and just quietly slips out with a girl before the whole place goes to hell.
Do you really hope that??? :)
That would deprive us from some really good content. So I kinda doubt that there will be an option to completely avoid the Party shenanigans. Although I would think that this Party would make up a big portion of the next chapter. There would be far less content for someone skipping it.
As Luna's friend might be Moira's bimbo that want revenge on Vanessa I don't think they are connected.
For Oriana I have no clue. I don't think we have seen her yet, correct? I am looking forward to her and hope she is a hot dominatrix that will take care of Ashe and Vanessa together.
But that is only my brain making things up :D
 
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Do you really hope that??? :)
That would deprive us from some really good content. So I kinda doubt that there will be an option to completely avoid the Party shenanigans. Although I would think that this Party would make up a big portion of the next chapter. There would be far less content for someone skipping it.
As Luna's friend might be Moira's bimbo that want revenge on Vanessa I don't think they are connected.
For Oriana I have no clue. I don't think we have seen her yet, correct? I am looking forward to her and hope she is a hot dominatrix that will take care of Ashe and Vanessa together.
But that is only my brain making things up :D
The party seems like it's made for the CQ path. I'm curious how the dev will avoid those pitfalls on Siren and Kitten. Or is every path going to see some LIs fucking around? Maybe they'll all form an orderly queue so Ashe can fuck the drug out of them (Siren) or fuck Ashe till the drug's effects wear off (Kitten).

I think the easier thing to write would be an aborted sabotage where only a few folks get drugged before the source is otherwise ruined, so it doesn't turn into a crazy fuckfest, but Ashe can still be involved to some degree.
 
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The party seems like it's made for the CQ path. I'm curious how the dev will avoid those pitfalls on Siren and Kitten. Or is every path going to see some LIs fucking around? Maybe they'll all form an orderly queue so Ashe can fuck the drug out of them (Siren) or fuck Ashe till the drug's effects wear off (Kitten).

I think the easier thing to write would be an aborted sabotage where only a few folks get drugged before the source is otherwise ruined, so it doesn't turn into a crazy fuckfest, but Ashe can still be involved to some degree.
I really hope the dev gives us some actual options, not just flavours of the same.

If the party is kitten path + Siren flavour text like last update I will straight up drop this game. But I’m hopeful it won’t come to that.

I’m also hoping to see some of that duplo libido. If Ashe isn’t drugged but can still out-fuck a lot of the monos/women it would show us there is something to the stigma. (And on the kitten path she could be caught, on the siren path she could just claim she was drugged too)
 

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Not sure how relevant it is for any of the theories regarding the blackmailer, but while going through the code I read some of the dialogue again and remembered that the reason Fiona doesn't show up to the beach day (if Ashe is not cleaning Natasha's apartment) was because of an work emergency, caused in her words because: "There's some security issue with the phones and it was on the news or something and now we get overrun with people panicking and just so much shit to deal with all at the same time and-"

Could be unrelated, but could also be hinting that the blackmailer is spying on Ashe through her phone.
 

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Not sure how relevant it is for any of the theories regarding the blackmailer, but while going through the code I read some of the dialogue again and remembered that the reason Fiona doesn't show up to the beach day (if Ashe is not cleaning Natasha's apartment) was because of an work emergency, caused in her words because: "There's some security issue with the phones and it was on the news or something and now we get overrun with people panicking and just so much shit to deal with all at the same time and-"

Could be unrelated, but could also be hinting that the blackmailer is spying on Ashe through her phone.
Thats a really good catch
 
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For the 0.5.1 update wrt modders, I think it is more helpful to have the rpy files be in a separate .rpa file.
 

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Alright I whipped up a mod to remove the "route-split" mechanic, meaning you never make the choice between Siren, Kitten and Cuckquean.

IMPORTANT TL;DR
  • The installation procedure is the same as the incest patch, just follow the readme and move the files into your /game/ folder
  • This is an intrusive mod that alters the events of base game, so BACKUP your game's files somewhere else if you don't want to risk losing the original ones, some may end up getting overwritten
  • To fully play this mod, you need to start from a save BEFORE the route selection SCREEN. If you start from any point ahead of that point, then the mod may not work correctly
  • Saves made in this mod are likely to be incompatible with future official updates of the game (they will probably still work, but may not recall your decisions correctly), so keep official saves separated from your mod saves
  • Detailed breakdown of changes and thoughts below, but the general gist is that some scenes that were exclusive to one route or another have been made accessible to the other routes, BUT they may still be locked by conditions, it depends on your playthrough and what your "domme score" and "cuck score" variables are looking like
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Anyway, if anyone tries out this mod let me know what they think about it, let me know if any scenes you got access to felt "wrong" for your playthrough or if you run into anything that feels like an error. Also let me know if you felt the game playing out this way instead of with a route-split improved your enjoyment of the game or not. And if you happen to be a patron of the game and prefer the game without the route-split, do try to make your voice heard by the dev, it is really not too late to go back on that change and, at least as far as the last update is concerned, it should not impact the devs development process very much.
 

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Put this mod together because I really dislike the route-split mechanic for this game. I hope that anyone that tries this mod ends up enjoying their playthrough with it more than without it, and that maybe it convinces the dev to go back on their choice and decide to officially remove the route-split and design further updates without it.
Thank you very much for your effort!

But I on the other hand like the different routes very much and hope the dev will continue exactly like they did and will diversify the different routes even further.

But as I said hats off for your dedication mate!

Cheers!
 

manscout

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But I on the other hand like the different routes very much and hope the dev will continue exactly like they did and will diversify the different routes even further.
Thank you!

My opinion is that if the intent is to actually move the routes into wildly different directions to the point where they start feeling like 3 different stories, then the route split is justified and I will call it quits on the mod once that becomes evident, as it would become a futile fight to change the game into what it isn't.

But if the developer's M.O continues as it has been over the last 2 updates, we won't really have 3 different stories as much as 3 alternatives of the same story. Story beats will remain the same, your choice of route won't really alter the main story or how any of the important events play out, and ultimately both the game and the dev's work process will still be the same as it was before the route-split. Except now the story will have lost a significant layer of dynamism and player engagement, and it is a pain in the ass to get the content you are interested in because now it takes 3 full playthroughs instead of getting to choose as you go.

Point is, I'd rather the game follows a development model and gameplay experience that is better adjusted to the type of story it is actually telling, not a misadjusted attempt of living up to a promise of something it never was. And, in my opinion, this game's strong suit has always been a finely crafted central narrative that goes through the same story beats, using the same cast of characters, but allows for some flexibility with subtle variations left to player's choice.
and hope the dev will continue exactly like they did
I actually would really like to know what you have enjoyed about the route-split up to this point, what has been done over the last 2 updates with the new design direction that could not have been done with the old system of having dom, sub, and NTR themed scenes freely distributed.

I want to understand because the idea of this mod is not to make the game better for one type of player in detriment of others, I want to make a point that the game can be made better without having the route-split mechanic and without reducing the game's enjoyment for anyone. So if you could give specific examples of what is that you think the dev has done right with the route-split so far, I would like to hear them so I can see if I can figure out a solution that keeps those specific elements you enjoyed even without doing the route-split.
 

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Did a replay as I was curious about some plot stuff and the timeframe of the current content. Turns out that it's only been nine days since the start of the game. Which is surprisingly short.
 

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Hey everyone

It's been a while . I've been back from my break for a little bit now, and with the public release of Ep. 5 done, I can now fully focus on working on Ep. 6.

You guys have given a ton of feedback and reviews for the latest update, and I'm happy to read it all. And if you haven't yet and would like to, hop over on Discord or tell me here in a DM. I appreciate all the critique, comments and praise. And of course all the lively discussions and theories this has spawned.

I feel like I don't thank you people enough, but it really is immensely motivating when I see so many people interested in my little lewd story. Thank you so much ❤! And with that, I'd also like to welcome the many, many (so many) new supporters here ! Seeing the numbers go up like that makes me a little dizzy every time.

So, what's been going on the last couple weeks? As announced, I took a short break to recharge a bit. I think this was a good idea as it made me so giddy to work on the next episode. I'll talk a bit more about the plans for Episode 6 in next week's progress report. Since there'll be some mild spoilers from Ep. 5, I want people to have a chance to finish it before that. So, if you haven't played through Ep. 5 yet and you don't want any spoilers whatsoever, you might want to stay away a bit from here until you finished it.

So far I'll just say that I've finished planning the next episode and started writing it too. Progress so far has been decent, but I'm not close to being done with that part yet. You'll have to wait a bit before you'll get some previews.

And to people new here, here's a quick rundown on what you can expect here during the development process:

  • Weekly progress reports (every Friday): This should give you an idea where we stand and how much is done, what's left to do, and (eventually) an estimate for the next release date.
  • Weekly preview pics: As soon as I start doing renders, you'll get a preview picture every Monday. (For paid supporters only)
  • Polls. I'll eventually do some polls to gather everyone's thoughts. There'll be some polls (limited to higher tiers) that will let you directly decide on some small thing that will make it in the game too.
  • Bonus pics. Silver and Gold tier will continue to get bonus pin-up pictures of the cast, and some member requested special renders. If you're a Gold member and want to request something, make sure to check out the Discord.
Also: To all the people who are waiting for a Steam release, you'll have to wait a bit longer unfortunately. I need to spend some more time to properly get all this set up, and I decided I'll put that off until I have some more free time. I'll likely prepare everything over the holidays at the end of the year. Which means a Steam release will be ready in Summer 2025 at the earliest.

That's all for now, see you all next week!

❤ Enjoy your weekend and thank you for all your support! ❤
 

Buletti

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Thank you!

My opinion is that if the intent is to actually move the routes into wildly different directions to the point where they start feeling like 3 different stories, then the route split is justified and I will call it quits on the mod once that becomes evident, as it would become a futile fight to change the game into what it isn't.

But if the developer's M.O continues as it has been over the last 2 updates, we won't really have 3 different stories as much as 3 alternatives of the same story. Story beats will remain the same, your choice of route won't really alter the main story or how any of the important events play out, and ultimately both the game and the dev's work process will still be the same as it was before the route-split. Except now the story will have lost a significant layer of dynamism and player engagement, and it is a pain in the ass to get the content you are interested in because now it takes 3 full playthroughs instead of getting to choose as you go.

Point is, I'd rather the game follows a development model and gameplay experience that is better adjusted to the type of story it is actually telling, not a misadjusted attempt of living up to a promise of something it never was. And, in my opinion, this game's strong suit has always been a finely crafted central narrative that goes through the same story beats, using the same cast of characters, but allows for some flexibility with subtle variations left to player's choice.

I actually would really like to know what you have enjoyed about the route-split up to this point, what has been done over the last 2 updates with the new design direction that could not have been done with the old system of having dom, sub, and NTR themed scenes freely distributed.

I want to understand because the idea of this mod is not to make the game better for one type of player in detriment of others, I want to make a point that the game can be made better without having the route-split mechanic and without reducing the game's enjoyment for anyone. So if you could give specific examples of what is that you think the dev has done right with the route-split so far, I would like to hear them so I can see if I can figure out a solution that keeps those specific elements you enjoyed even without doing the route-split.
English is not my 1st language, so please bare with me.

I get what you mean with your question about what the 3 branches add and could not be done with the "old" model.

Well I would say first thing for me is that it "feels" different. Having to commit to a path that (hopefully) will develop in a unique way creates another form of involvement as just being able to hit "back" a couple of times and then check the next sex scene. I personally would never call it "immersive" for me, because I am neither a 20 (or however old Ashe is) futa in a world full of hot girls nor would I identify with a sub or NTR character. I am nut sure if I can fully describe what I mean but it is a feeling of "I will make a sub on this route and that is how she will be". This would not be the case if one could freely jump between choices. And my guess would be it is what you don´t like about the branching :)

Second would be I guess that I also enjoy Project Myriam a lot. Here you have litterally a ton of decisions that follow each other very closely. It is cool in itś own right as you at least get the feeling of freedom to choose what you want. But it also can take away a little from the story. The Dinner with Vanessa scene for example runs more or less on it's own and you can follow how the bonding and sparkle somehow starts with them. In Project Myriam my guess would be that you might have had 4 or 5 choices within this scene. So the flow of the scene is very different (at least for me). Again I also like this but it somehow does not really fit for the way the story is told in this VN.

And lastly I think my hope is that in the long run the branches will really develop in different ways that might get longer unique story arcs. But this might be wishful thinking.

Those are the things at the top of my head why I would say I prefer the branching system. There might be more but I forgot about them :D

I hope I could express my reasoning enough.

Cheers mate!
 
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No the game shows that she is. As the player you can choose to act upon/indulge in them or not however. It could also be she is just like that because she is repressed from years of having to hide her sex and her family being super close to her. Of course I think prejudice is the biggest factor of discrimination but the heightened libido can still be true.
There's a valid discussion to be had about how much Ashe's problems are caused by her traumas and the discrimination she suffers, rather than a direct biological consequence of her being a duplo. But I would not say that her problematic relationship with her sexuality and constant need to suppress it indicates that her libido is any lower than Fiona's, and neither would I say that Fiona's libido is necessarily high just because she's more open about it and comfortable with it.
That's why this game is so great with its narration. It nicely plays with ambiguity of its setting and lets us decide, what we want to believe about the world presented there.

I bet that in-game fantasy author who conceived adentures of Urakha and Vaelaris will soon post some manifesto on women toilet safety. DERFs (Duplo-exclusionary radical futanaris) should protest about it from the start. I've seen myself in a story, how Ashe entered women toilet and ejaculated on random woman there, knocking her previously unconscious.

And what will be next? Should society let Ashe to become duplo athlete who enters women competition during Dicklympics?

All tits on board, we should vote for Vanessa's mom, stay alpha and Make Futanarica Gape Again! :D

Yeah, duplo fate is sad, but maybe Ashe's life will inspire timeless classics such as "Duplo Rhapesodomy" by T-Ween', dealing with all that drama of Natasha encounters.

Is this the real life? Is this sex fantasy?​
Caught with the drugs, no escape from depravity​
Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see​
I'm just short dick duplo, I need no sympathy​
Because I'm easy fucked, easy blown, semi hard, semi soft​
Any way the dick goes doesn't really matter to me, to me​
[Verse 1]​
Mama, just killed a girl​
Put my dick against her throat, shot my load, and she has choked​
Mama, life had just begun​
But now I've gone and cumshot on it all away​
Mama, ooh, didn't mean to make you cry​
If I'm not back again from gloryhole​
Carry on, carry on as if nothing really matters​
[Verse 2]​
Too late, my time has come​
Cum splurges down my spine, asshole aching all the time​
Goodbye, everybody, I've got to go​
Gotta leave you all behind my rear and face the romp​
Mama, ooh (Any way my dick grows)​
I don't wanna die​
I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all​
[Guitar Solo]​
I see a little silhouetto of futa cop​
Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you stay Alpha?​
Chastity, paddle and and buttplugs, very, very frightening me​
(Bukkake-o) Bukkake-o, (Bukkake-o) Bukkake-o, Bukkake-o Cumslut Ahegao (Oh-oh-oh-oh)​
But I'm just a duplo, nobody loves me​
She's just a duplo from a limp dicked family!​
Spare her cunt from this RapeCop monstrosity!​
Hard on comes, hard on goes, will you get me off?​
Bismillah, no, we will rape your holes​
(Let her cum!) Bismillah, we will not let you go​
(Let her cum!) Bismillah, we will let you blow​
(Let me go) Will not let you go​
(Let me go) Will not let you go​
(Never, never, never, never let me go) Ah​
No, no, no, no, no, no, no​
(Oh, mamma mia, mamma mia) Mamma mia, let me go​
Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me, for me, for me​
[Bridge]​
So you think you can fist me and cum in my eye?​
So you think you can rape me and leave me to die?​
Oh, baby, can't do this to me, baby​
Jizz gotta get out, jizz gotta get right outta here​
[Outro]​
(Ooh)​
(Ooh, yeah, ooh, yeah)​
Nothing really matters, anyone can see​
Nothing really matters​
Nothing really matters to me​
Any way the dick goes​
[Gong mixed with public toilet flush sound]​
T-Ween' are:​
Fanny McDrury​
Brianna March​
Regina Tailon​
Joy Dickon​
 

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you know I’d really like if the party on the siren path goes down the route of
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Unlikely I know and don’t want to shove unrealistic expectations or try and tell Morrigan how to write their story but a girl can dream ya know?
 
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