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Blablablafapper

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Anja's such a good and well behaved slave that it leaves questioning weather she's even human and not some intelligent AI or something like that.

Also based off the Dom choices I've made. MC will eventually get his revenge right? Since that;s what the game seems to be hinting.
 

Demiare

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with that there could also be no maledom in this game and could never be, there is no light at the end of the tunnel...
Yes, this game shouldn't have anything called "male domination" as it's obviously for completely another auditory. And this why I'm here & so angry because dev of this game done two things I'm hating the most : fake promises (obviously just to get more money) AND using same scenes in different routes even if they will have no sense.

Irony that most of players even didn't noticed that dinner scene not submissive too - it's just stupid. Servants sharing table with their masters, huh? =/
 
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I disagree with people saying we just dont like femdom, as many have pointed out Starless did it right, the MC was forced to do waaaay worse shit than the one of this game yet people still liked that game, it was more believable (as crazy as that sounds) because the writing was solid

The MC can comply with the femdom because he has no real choice but how he acts and thinks in this game doesnt seem real, the MC doesn't behave like a sub or dom, more like a robot to push the story

I would be totally fine with the sub and dom route being purely internal thoughts and a split ending. i.e. sub route he enjoys being treated this way so he plays along, dom route he swallows the indignities while plotting revenge

You cant write a scene where hes being set up and betrayed for 5 min and doesn't act in anyway for no reason. The narrative is Elizabeth is smart and cunning, if so why not threaten him to shutup at dinner or else BEFORE? why reveal your plan while setting him up as opposed to making him cum THEN play your hand and betray him leaving him no recourse

then its topped off the with most annoying hack trope of not letting a character explain themselves or give their side and building an arc off it, instead of simply letting them speak and having the others not believe or doubt them

whole thing would of been fine if she used a smarter plan (because shes meant to be smart) and his dom monologue being she got me so I'll play along and get her back for this later
 

Edwardacly

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Many submissive lovers are heavily misunderstanding most people issues, my mind and fetishes are all over the place and i love all the other routes.

Nobody is asking for banging all the girls on day 2 and having them surrender and beg for your cock by the fifth update but the way you were being set up was extremely obvious and way easy to avoid if we go with previous display of insight and personality in earlier events (if you were picking all the dom options), it just felt like the Developer ran out of time to deliver the update or just considered too much trouble in adding another branch on witch you are not caged and went for the lazy option instead.

In the dom route i was expecting that if you proved that you can think with your brains instead of your dick and followed orders to the letter (at least the first few weeks) you would be treated with some sort of dignity even if your social status were to be still bellow them. kinda like earning your rights to have some agency later.

While i still enjoy all the other routes quite much, the dom route was such a let down to me because before this update it reminded me of Minase-Kun following orders from Reika Kitami on earlier episodes of Bible Black, he was a clearly dom on a leash being ordered around but with some sort of dignity still left.

We will se on further updates if the Dev is able to patch up or retcon the dom route at least a bit, if not i think its best for the game to scratch the dom path all together and focus on the other ones only.
 

f96zonetrooper

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A problem with the dinner chastity scene is that the following scene with Elisabeth's explanation and her plan on the next day heavily depends on previous choices in the game. So for some players the development makes sense and opens new opportunities with the keyholders Elisabeth, Anja, the Mistress and Isabella, while for others the development does not make any sense and looks like a dead end. The next update will show if mc can score or if the girls were just teasing him.

For the legal background :
mc and his friend / sister owe the family a huge amount of money. Playing obedient servants/slaves for the summer will remove the threat. So it's kind of prostituition. mc and friend can walk out any time but then they have to face the enormous debt. The consense is the same as in porn production where people are paid to do stuff they like or don't like with a happy smile. Taking the money implies that it is ok for the actors. (Extreme cases where actors are (seriously) injured or killed are excluded by law.) That is business world.
 

anne O'nymous

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the mc can hurt the Little misstress when she wants to slap the mc, the mc can start manipulating the miss into subbmission, atleast the choices we get are of the mc thinking how he will make them submit in the future,
"hurt" is a big word, but let say. Anyway, she isn't a really dom, she still need to learn that she'll gain more if she respect her servants. So, letting the MC be a little wild isn't necessarily a bad idea. Seeing the MC by rebellious with her, while being obedient to her mother and sister, can possibly teach her the right way to act.
This said, you understood that Mrs. von Stern want servants, not brainless sex toys, right ? Despite what she said about them staying just few months, the time to compensate for the money, she intent to make them serve her for life. She want people deprived of their freewill, but still able to think and make decisions by themselves.
Look at Anja in the dom route, she clearly submit to the MC, but this happen only when it not goes against the orders she already have. During the dinner incident, by example, she can submit to the MC, because it don't prevent her to do her inspection. But if the MC start to force his dick in her mouth, she stop it without a single hesitation ; in fact she do it before being asked to. This despite her submission to him, simply because it would be disobeying to her Mistress.
To achieve this, Mrs. von Stern need to tame them, not to break them. That's the difference she put between "correction" and "punishment" ; being explained what is the correct behavior, by opposition to having this correct behavior enforced into them. And this imply that she'll be more lax at start, like she is at the pool if the MC loose control, by example. She'll slowly reduce the length of the leash, but for now the MC have some liberties.

As for the MC thoughts, they are just thoughts. Like I said, perhaps that we (players) will be able to slowly inverse the role, and make them submit, but what is sure is that, if it happen, it will be effectively slow. Probably not months like I said, because it would be a too slow pace for a game, but it will don't come in an instant, and will not prevent the MC to pass through many submission scenes, and perhaps humiliation ones, before he become the one served.
Anyway for now they are just thoughts, and nothing prove that they'll be a reality one day. It wouldn't be the first dom game where the MC think that (s)he can be rebellious, will just achieving to be punished more often and finally broke.
Elisabeth, by example, can be honest, and have effectively put the MC in cage for a good reason and to... hmm, lets say "tame her sister". Like she can be more on the side of her mother, than on the one of her sister ; being a cerebral dom, and not a physical one. She clearly want Heather as her plaything, and she can just be luring the MC into a trap, to ensure that he'll not be able to interfere. Like she can also be the help that the MC will need to take the upper hand. For now the story let the two doors opened, and it's only if the MC effectively end being ride of the cage after Elisabeth idea, that we'll know for sure that the roles can be reversed.


the problem here is that the dev sadly made the sub male and male dom interwined in the same path and that is what is pissing people off,
No, the problem is that some people want to play, at all cost, a game that is clearly not for them.
The idea to reverse the roles is appealing, but what is, for me, interesting in this is precisely the fact that the roles will be reverted ; slowly the MC will take the upper hand. I don't care the femdom, even if it's not one of my fetishes, and even if the reversion don't happen, it promise an interesting story, which is what I search. But if the reversion happen, then it promise an even more interesting story, one that will hook me for sure.


you seem to think we are only going to be male dom on anja and heather but if you truly did read the male dom you will know thats a wrong assumption by your part,
And if you had truly read what I wrote, you would have know that my thoughts aren't those.
 

Ray1021

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just listening to these bitches would make my dick go soft. The Mistress and the daughters are like three cats just waiting to claw the shit out of each other.
 

Princess Groundhog

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and the characters are hot (well, apart from Heather).
SHUT YOUR MOUTH! She is the hottest one of them all. I really hope the Mistress eventually does make the brother impregnate his sister, as was hinted this time. That would likely be much further down in the story, but it would be incredibly kinky and hot. And he can either be really into it (romantic path with Heather) and just doing it because he's being told to. Also, in at least one path, maybe the most submissive one, Heather seemed to have more agency so I'm hoping that path can be developed for her to eventually dominate her brother. It would be super cute but I'm sure she can learn from the mistresses :love:
 

sKsGoWdA

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Anja's such a good and well behaved slave that it leaves questioning weather she's even human and not some intelligent AI or something like that.

Also based off the Dom choices I've made. MC will eventually get his revenge right? Since that;s what the game seems to be hinting.
Dude any scenes with any of the characters are there?
 

Princess Groundhog

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NO one has ever made (to my knowledge) what would be my favorite MC of all time -- a true femdom game with a true femdom protagonist choosing how dominant to be or not and not the other way around :)
Oh that sounds like my perfect game as well. And I'd love to see your list as well, please PM me!
 

Twistedrem

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SHUT YOUR MOUTH! She is the hottest one of them all. I really hope the Mistress eventually does make the brother impregnate his sister, as was hinted this time. That would likely be much further down in the story, but it would be incredibly kinky and hot. And he can either be really into it (romantic path with Heather) and just doing it because he's being told to. Also, in at least one path, maybe the most submissive one, Heather seemed to have more agency so I'm hoping that path can be developed for her to eventually dominate her brother. It would be super cute but I'm sure she can learn from the mistresses :love:
Petition for Anja to Mommy-Domme the hell out of them both. Lovingly. <3
 

alex19

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dude what do you not understand
it has the tag male domination and it offers you a dom route
so why the hell is it wrong for me to be pissed when the mc thats supposed to be dom
basically gets raped if you like that good for you but the tag is still wrong


m8 listen the tags are there to help us identify games that we like
if someone puts a false tag in it i am pissed simple story
there already is a male domination path where the mc literally wants to fuck and enslave all of them so its NO BS
also for the future dont be condescending its just plain rude
you do not tell me or anyone else what to do
Naa dude, trust me, lots of players here feel you.And yes,your point is very valid. And no, WE don't like our MC to be fucked with. :devilish: You know what,perhaps the Sterns are Nazis that evaded justice, their entire fortune built on a shitton pile of ill gotten gains through war crimes. Now , that would be some nice material for a smart Mc to find,use and then destroy them with.(MC's got his sights on you Isabella!:devilish:)
 
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"hurt" is a big word, but let say. Anyway, she isn't a really dom, she still need to learn that she'll gain more if she respect her servants. So, letting the MC be a little wild isn't necessarily a bad idea. Seeing the MC by rebellious with her, while being obedient to her mother and sister, can possibly teach her the right way to act.
This said, you understood that Mrs. von Stern want servants, not brainless sex toys, right ? Despite what she said about them staying just few months, the time to compensate for the money, she intent to make them serve her for life. She want people deprived of their freewill, but still able to think and make decisions by themselves.
Look at Anja in the dom route, she clearly submit to the MC, but this happen only when it not goes against the orders she already have. During the dinner incident, by example, she can submit to the MC, because it don't prevent her to do her inspection. But if the MC start to force his dick in her mouth, she stop it without a single hesitation ; in fact she do it before being asked to. This despite her submission to him, simply because it would be disobeying to her Mistress.
To achieve this, Mrs. von Stern need to tame them, not to break them. That's the difference she put between "correction" and "punishment" ; being explained what is the correct behavior, by opposition to having this correct behavior enforced into them. And this imply that she'll be more lax at start, like she is at the pool if the MC loose control, by example. She'll slowly reduce the length of the leash, but for now the MC have some liberties.

As for the MC thoughts, they are just thoughts. Like I said, perhaps that we (players) will be able to slowly inverse the role, and make them submit, but what is sure is that, if it happen, it will be effectively slow. Probably not months like I said, because it would be a too slow pace for a game, but it will don't come in an instant, and will not prevent the MC to pass through many submission scenes, and perhaps humiliation ones, before he become the one served.
Anyway for now they are just thoughts, and nothing prove that they'll be a reality one day. It wouldn't be the first dom game where the MC think that (s)he can be rebellious, will just achieving to be punished more often and finally broke.
Elisabeth, by example, can be honest, and have effectively put the MC in cage for a good reason and to... hmm, lets say "tame her sister". Like she can be more on the side of her mother, than on the one of her sister ; being a cerebral dom, and not a physical one. She clearly want Heather as her plaything, and she can just be luring the MC into a trap, to ensure that he'll not be able to interfere. Like she can also be the help that the MC will need to take the upper hand. For now the story let the two doors opened, and it's only if the MC effectively end being ride of the cage after Elisabeth idea, that we'll know for sure that the roles can be reversed.




No, the problem is that some people want to play, at all cost, a game that is clearly not for them.
The idea to reverse the roles is appealing, but what is, for me, interesting in this is precisely the fact that the roles will be reverted ; slowly the MC will take the upper hand. I don't care the femdom, even if it's not one of my fetishes, and even if the reversion don't happen, it promise an interesting story, which is what I search. But if the reversion happen, then it promise an even more interesting story, one that will hook me for sure.




And if you had truly read what I wrote, you would have know that my thoughts aren't those.
thats good and all but you are missing the point that we did not get any choice to stop her from set up us to get caged in the dinner with her footjob, a mc that is in the male dom route, that stop the Little misstress from slapping him whould have stoped her and not just be quiet and stupid (it goes against his personality to act submissive in this scene). I really think the story took a turn for worse, if those that like sub were forced to be rebellious they will also come here to say they dont like it and thats precisely what happenned in this last update, the dev forced that into us with no way to change it, you may not see it as forced submission but i do and thats my prerogative to think so.
 
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