McGreed

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That's nice.
But I think that beach episode should be with all girls.
I suppose you are right and if there is gonna be beach episode , all the girls should be there. I think there will be opportunity to join Dalia's secret server only for MC and Alex , but who knows , maybe she'll show us her kindness and everyone will be there.
It remains only to wait and wonder , what Caribdis will do.
 
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beh123234

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Sorry to derail these interesting conversations, but I've been thinking about some things since the "no ntr" discussion from a few days ago. Not about the ntr stuff, mind you, but mainly about one point that was raised (can't remember by whom, sorry) which was "ethically difficult choices seem out of character for this MC who seems to be an inherently good character." After another playthrough of the game (btw, very impressive how much content is in this game so far for only 0.3), I definitely see this as a potential issue, given that the plot has some pretty dark themes and some huge moral issues. Hell, it's already stated that Eternum has had some international ethical issues that happened offscreen, so it got me thinking about how the gang is going to be confronted with the plot-defining ethical dilemmas. I see one potential avenue in Axel. While Axel is pretty well established as a psychopath and intolerable cunt, it's also established that right now he's motivated by his friend Benjamin's untimely and suspicious death. Sooner or later, the gang is going to unravel the mystery behind Ulysses' extrajudicial executions, and I suspect Axel will be present for these revelations, too. I suspect this event will begin a huge shift in Axel's perspective when he witnesses how not even people as powerful as himself and his friends are safe from the Praetorians and whoever controls them. From this point, maybe Axel will act as an ally on the inside to the gang-- not the kind anyone wants but has to tolerate on account of being too valuable. From here, I predict Axel will still be behaving like an intolerable cunt and can potentially offer some ethical dilemmas. No ntr, Caribdis has been clear on that, but more along the lines of...questionable tactics. I've always been interested in these types of character dynamics, where no only likes a certain character but begrudgingly cooperates because they have no better options. Hell, this may even open up the possibility of a heartbreaking betrayal right when it seems like he's coming around. I dunno, I might be reaching here, but I still see so many delicious possibilities in this character.
 

pedrobece7

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Sorry to derail these interesting conversations, but I've been thinking about some things since the "no ntr" discussion from a few days ago. Not about the ntr stuff, mind you, but mainly about one point that was raised (can't remember by whom, sorry) which was "ethically difficult choices seem out of character for this MC who seems to be an inherently good character." After another playthrough of the game (btw, very impressive how much content is in this game so far for only 0.3), I definitely see this as a potential issue, given that the plot has some pretty dark themes and some huge moral issues. Hell, it's already stated that Eternum has had some international ethical issues that happened offscreen, so it got me thinking about how the gang is going to be confronted with the plot-defining ethical dilemmas. I see one potential avenue in Axel. While Axel is pretty well established as a psychopath and intolerable cunt, it's also established that right now he's motivated by his friend Benjamin's untimely and suspicious death. Sooner or later, the gang is going to unravel the mystery behind Ulysses' extrajudicial executions, and I suspect Axel will be present for these revelations, too. I suspect this event will begin a huge shift in Axel's perspective when he witnesses how not even people as powerful as himself and his friends are safe from the Praetorians and whoever controls them. From this point, maybe Axel will act as an ally on the inside to the gang-- not the kind anyone wants but has to tolerate on account of being too valuable. From here, I predict Axel will still be behaving like an intolerable cunt and can potentially offer some ethical dilemmas. No ntr, Caribdis has been clear on that, but more along the lines of...questionable tactics. I've always been interested in these types of character dynamics, where no only likes a certain character but begrudgingly cooperates because they have no better options. Hell, this may even open up the possibility of a heartbreaking betrayal right when it seems like he's coming around. I dunno, I might be reaching here, but I still see so many delicious possibilities in this character.
Very interesting point, hadn't thought of that
 

FarOutLeft

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It's just incredible how much we can say and theorize out of a porn game.
I don't think this qualifies as a porn game. On a spectrum from women's book erotica to pornhub this is much closer to female erotica. If anything it's emotion porn, providing a sensation of being unconditionally loved from the perspective of a man. It's just as if a man had written an erotica novel intended for other men (in a comic book format).

Women, in the broadest sense, see love as something something weird shit (I'm not a woman so I don't get it) that is platonic in nature. Sex != love and sex is not a subset of love. As it pertains to this point, love is separate from sex and you don't need sex to feel or provide love. This is reflected in the erotic novels aimed at women, where sex is usually a result of the emotional arc finishing.
Men, again in the broadest sense, see love as some kind of surrender of individuality and boundaries, which includes sex. Sex is a subset of love. You can not be in love and not want or provide sex. The act of foregoing the boundaries you hold to with others is an expression of that love and a desire to display it. This is what you see in this game, where sex, or a sexual situation, is interspersed in the emotional arc, advancing it further.

To make it clear if it wasn't already, not everyone is the same and there will be plenty of people that see things differently. This is only a very general view that seems to apply more often than not.
 
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ArDZer

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2 for Dallia no ?
It's actually 3. During the park give the point to Alex, because later on Dalia gets a 3rd point by answering her favourite movie at the tail end of v0.3. Penelope has 2 so far but with further updates released, her score should increase.
 
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Dorfnutter

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He's nowhere close to Stabby Mike.
I disagree.

*Jazz music stops*

I personally find Chang better than Stabby Mike.

*Audible gasps from crowd*

...Let me explain.

First off, let me preface that I love Mike. He's a good bro and the jokes and hijinks revolving around him were hilarious to see. However, I find that there are some things that Chang has going for him compared to Mike.

1. Chang feels more like a natural inclusion to the story compared to Mike. Unlike Mike, Chang didn't come out from nowhere. He has history with Orion (MC). He's one of his buddies from Europe. Thus, it feels more natural to see Chang go above and beyond when it comes to helping Orion out. Plus, it makes more sense for him to pop every once in a while in the story.

Compare that to Mike, who is...an inmate whom, depending on our choices, we randomly spring out of prison and then starts showing up during crucial moments of the main plot (and is even crucial to get the true ending). He has no stake of any kind to the main plot, no hidden backstory that could've enriched it, he just...shows up and ends up kicking ass only because of one random act of kindness from the Player Character.

2. Chang has a more interesting plot thread to follow than Mike. Mike is perfect...maybe a bit too perfect. Granted, he's not a full-on Gary Stu. But I feel like he just doesn't have anything left in his character to develop. Compare that to Chang, who is trying his best to woo the girl he fell in love with at first sight and making the most out of his stay in Kredon. He has personal challenges that he needs to overcome, stuff that makes him a tad more relatable IMO. Not to mention he's a lot more malleable in terms of being affected by the choices that Orion (MC) makes through the course of the story.

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JJJ84

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It's actually 3. During the park give the point to Alex, because later on Dalia gets a 3rd point by answering her favourite movie at the tail end of v0.3. Penelope has 2 so far but with further updates released, her score should increase.
That's odd, I have 2 for Dalia as well in the end (and I did follow the walkthrough, gave point to Alex during the park scene, yet answered her favorite movie correctly at the end of v0.3)
 
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MrLKX

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It's the same for me. I assume that the choice between the snacks at Alex and Dalia could have been the tipping point that we have only 2 points at Dalia?
 

Garen

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That's odd, I have 2 for Dalia as well in the end (and I did follow the walkthrough, gave point to Alex during the park scene, yet answered her favorite movie correctly at the end of v0.3)
It's the same for me. I assume that the choice between the snacks at Alex and Dalia could have been the tipping point that we have only 2 points at Dalia?
Dalia is 2 for me too. (w/ choosing Alex's bagels)
The Dalia points variable is at 5 points. (6 needed for 3 hearts)
 

boriss7787

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Dalia is 2 for me too. (w/ choosing Alex's bagels)
The Dalia points variable is at 5 points. (6 needed for 3 hearts)
I just followed the walkthrough and got 3. You start with 1 heart, gain another at the end of version 0.1 when you first went online with her. The 3rd one you get at the end of 0.3 when you answer the movie question. I also gave the snack point to Alex.
 

Garen

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Click the attack button in the top right corner when Dalia says “You’re just a fucking moron” +1
Ah fuck you're right. I forgot that one.
I replayed from the beginning sometime between updates and totally Ctrl-ed my way through that section and missed it.
 
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