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I also disliked the bathroom creep scene, so I played it as a good guy.
But the scene with Eva…I think that works if you consider that Orion is a teenager who has just been given a bunch of cash and a license to spend time with a hot woman (for a price) with no real world consequences.
The difference between the two is that spying on Dalia establishes him as a creep. But going with Eva establishes him as a horny teenager engaging in something entirely consensual. Annie didn't place any conditions on the money she gave him, so it's difficult to see it as a betrayal of her trust. And it was surely not her life savings. Annie's been playing for a long time. She's probably got a fair stash of money. So his attitude to the gift may have been a little careless, but imo it shows no disrespect for anyone.
Yes, Orion was already in there. That's why if you quickly reveal yourself Dalia is fine with it. Honest accident. If you hid and somehow got away with her not knowing you were there and you didn't try to watch her, that's maybe a grey area. But if you hide and spy, I see that as a straight up violation.The scene with Dalia in the bathroom is on a grey area to me, I mean Orion was cleaning the bathroom and Dalia appeared all of a sudden, Cari could have played it differently like maybe with her already half dressed and leading to a similar ending but overall I didn't consider that so bad it was a cliché typical of porn, while the Eva one puzzled me too a little, not because it wasn't good but because it was too abruptly after Annie went to get the sword.
It could have been played better? Yes, but to consider Orion so negatively? No, I respectfully disagree with you.
It would have been bad if there was the choice to let Annie know about it, that would have been a bad end plain and square, but as was played it was the typical scene that you could find in a cyberpunk, my only complain is that it was just too sudden, at least that's my opinion.
P.S. About the Eva scene I still have the impression that it was instead a planned scene by Caribdis that will come back in the future, my opinion is that we will see Eva again and maybe deciding to have sex with her will make her a potential side LI, or an ally for Orion and the girls.
It's a gut feeling nothing more, but the fact that she said that Eternum has a way to make people connect again lead me to this thought.
The Eva scene felt a bit like it was placed there so that we could have some sex before Orion got close to the girls. If it wasn't for Eva being more interesting than the average side girl, it would have felt completely shallow. Part of my appreciation for it was the hope/expectation that we'd see her again, perhaps outside Eternum. I'm still hoping for that. If it never happens, that diminishes the scene for me. But not completely. I still think it works as exactly the kind of situation a new teenage male player might easily encounter.
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You do not have to ogle her. I didn't, and am on her route. Unless there's a bug which set a var that wasn't unset by loading an earlier save. I started playing like the typical horndog, but as soon as I got to Dalia's reaction I rethought my approach, decided that was the wrong way to play Eternum, loaded a save, and revealed myself as soon as she entered the bathroom.
Given the general tone of Eternum, I don't see why Caribdis would make ogling Dalia in the bathroom a requirement to be on her path when the approach that works with everyone else is 'treat them well and you can add them to your harem'.
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Agreed that's why I said it was a grey area, some are more lenient with him other less but it's not a straight up bad choice, instead you can opt for revealing yourself and let it be an accident, and if you persist well, you will be kicked twice so it's not exactly a reward for being a creep ( and I would say that he deserve those kicks).
I still think Caribdis did that scene more for the comedy purpose more than anything else, but maybe he underestimated how heavy the scene could have been seen by a lot of peoples, I mean it works to an extent, but at the same time I don't want to belittle the concerns that where raised about.
And again I agree with you, it was surely a somewhat of an obligated scene to put a spicy moment to keep the players good because at the moment there wouldn't be any other possibility to show a sex scene because it was still a building world moment.
But at the same time Caribdis make it something more (keeping open the possibility to Eva's return further in the story). If it will happen I would be more than happy, but as you said if it doesn't it's not a problem since we have a lot of girls to be plenty satisfied with anyway.
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The bathroom part with Dalia has one of the weirdest approach at the game like why did you have to say "I'm stunned with your beauty" to a girl infront of you naked.
It didn't make sense until we dive deep into Dalia's story, and we started to know that Dalia has insecurities with her body (her being insecure to the fact Penelope and Nancy has bigger boobs and better body), and the fact that saying she has a "stunning beauty" will make her self-esteem go higher make that scene makes sense now cause it lightens up her insecurities.
I think Dalia doesn't get compliments as much as Penny and Nancy does and it makes her insecure to the fact that she seems to be the odd one out when it comes to beauty, like everywhere Penny and Nancy go, there's compliments and Dalia is left out.
We see that the characters has different approach and some are weird like with Alex, "she doesn't like to be always complemented on the thing most people complements her" and that's what makes every character special that sometimes the weirdest approach is the only right path for you to follow.
I mean stories sometimes makes no sense until ending so sometimes things seems to be strange at first, Let's just see how Caribdis will let story go through.
- Apr 25, 2020
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An unplanned peek doesn't make you a creep, it's just curiosity. If you do it repeatedly then yes you're a creep. But people have different tolerance.
Furthermore it's a porn game, punishing the player for not being a white knight in every circumstances is counter-productive imo.
Furthermore it's a porn game, punishing the player for not being a white knight in every circumstances is counter-productive imo.
It didn't weird me out that much because I was already used to Caribdis writing, so I kinda expected something like that. My only con is that I wished some references were used, I mean, at least in real world a girl would flirt more or be more ashamed for recalling what happened. Or even something different, but for sure they wouldn't act like as nothing happened. A girl wouldn't act towards a guy so normally after they broke into you at a bathroom. Sure they're basicly siblings/childhood friends, as they grew up together as kids, but at the same time, if you imply that both have feelings for each other when grown up, it feels odd that they act like nothing happened afterwards.
Man, even some girls in real life act completly shy after something more erotic, I can't imagine someone acting like nothing happened after being in the bath. I guess due to what happened on the beach that cannot be changed now, but it's probably one of the few things I could see improved.
But at the same time, it's hard to find a good balance between that kind of behaviour and keeping the girl actually likeable for everyone. If Caribdis is good at something, is making all girls extremely likeable. Sure some may have their favorites, but I believe there isn't any girl from the "main heroines" that some player actually dislikes.
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Exactly, it should not be expected that the MC is always the morally good guy. If we look at OIAL, the MC also did not always do the morally right thing. E.g. pretending to be the Moms therapist to influence her into doing stuff with him. (Yes, after all it is the better choice, but you dont know at this point)
Or in general, Harem-games tend to have a lot of "cheating" involved at the start. Because you have the multiple LIs which dont know that the other LIs are also in a sexual relationship with MC. This is a classic in those kind of games and Eternum is no different. (And in all of them it will resolve to a full Harem)
Yeah, because the sex scene in 0.1 was just to have a sex scene. It was not with any of the Main-LIs, because for those it would have been way too early. So quite clear that it feels different.
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Was there any reason why Cari changed Dalia's hair style permanently? It was different with Annie, Penny, and Nancy; for Dalia, it looks like she has become a different person (still cute tho). It is the only thing I don't like about this god-tier game.
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- Jun 14, 2020
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Girls changing their hairstyle isn't uncommon. They do it all the time.
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He wanted MC to have a free hand when he eventually rails her from behind while grabbing her hair - the dual braids would have been too tempting to take in either hand and this removes the temptation, leaving a hand free for grabbing a breast or thumbing her ass.
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LOL, yeah, they change shape and color pretty much weekly. If you have "luck" and have change-happy GF like me. Sometimes I have to see mine from from front. Just to be sure...
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I'm probably wrong, but
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make sense. I like it now.He wanted MC to have a free hand when he eventually rails her from behind while grabbing her hair - the dual braids would have been too tempting to take in either hand and this removes the temptation, leaving a hand free for grabbing a breast or thumbing her ass.
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He said 'none of the others' or something like that. I think not to accept it is the correct choice by the way. It smells of the handshake in OiaLT. Who are 'the others' is open to questions. It might be everyone to whom the Founder offerd the amulet and so, probably, no one has accepted it, provided getting it from the Founder is the only way to obtain it. Yet there might be other ways, or the Founder with 'the others' did't mean everyone who was offered it but some smaller group of some kind.
I personally think he offered it to a certain small group of players and no one has accepted.
By the way, why do we assume that Thanatos at some point has died in Eternum? I mean, probably he died quite some times when he was a noob, but he might well have never died since he become 'someone' in the game.
So far we only have seen him being injured by Orion and that was by no mean a killer blow. (Well, actually loosing a hand can kill you by the lose of blood, but whatever... Sure not instantly).
So maybe Thanatos can be killed, it just takes a huge lot of effort.