VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.7.5 Public] [Caribdis]

[Dorfnutter]

Still wondering how Eternum will be tied to Once in a Lifetime.
Whether Eternum or OIAL world is the main world or just one of the many dimensions.

Well Cari already said that Eternum takes place several years after OIAL, so there's that.

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Edit: Also reiterated in Cari's FAQ in his official Discord channel...

Spoiler: Also there have been some events/items that existed in OIAL that are mentioned in Eternum already...

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However don't expect any cameos since Cari unfortunately ruled that out (though he could still change his mind later, who knows).



Edit 2: (Likely due to the fact that Eternum takes place more than 10 years or so after OIAL (according to the Discord theorists), so Cari not only has to port the characters from HS1 to HS2 but he also has to age them up significantly, and I don't think he has the time for that lol)

 

[RandomGuy99]

Well Cari already said that Eternum takes place several years after OIAL, so there's that.

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Edit: Also reiterated in Cari's FAQ in his official Discord channel...

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Spoiler: Also there have been some events/items that existed in OIAL that are mentioned in Eternum already...

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However don't expect any cameos since Cari unfortunately ruled that out (though he could still change his mind later, who knows).

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Edit 2: (Likely due to the fact that Eternum takes place more than 10 years or so after OIAL (according to the Discord theorists), so Cari not only has to port the characters from HS1 to HS2 but he also has to age them up significantly, and I don't think he has the time for that lol)

Damn, thanks for all the info. It would be awesome if they could make a cameo though.
From what i heard OIAL 2 will be after Eternum so lets see how the two story is connected in anyway

 

[e6mill]

Damn, thanks for all the info. It would be awesome if they could make a cameo though.
From what i heard OIAL 2 will be after Eternum so lets see how the two story is connected in anyway

OIAL 2
So TIAL?

 

[Dorfnutter]

Damn, thanks for all the info. It would be awesome if they could make a cameo though.
From what i heard OIAL 2 will be after Eternum so lets see how the two story is connected in anyway

...and where exactly did you get the info that OIAL 2 was going to be a thing?

Because if it's from this person...

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(The original post saying that it was a joke has long since been deleted though. And no, I've checked on Discord. That Cari post doesn't exist (though there have been jokes from Discord members about the 'Twice in a Lifetime' thing) lol)

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

OIAL 2
So TIAL?

OI2L

 

[Dorfnutter]

Yes, it's only a joke. I edited that message myself. Although... if ever Cari did go through with it, I wouldn't mind getting some credit for the title.

Eternum - takes place more than 10 years or so after OIAL (Discord theorists say it's about 13-15 years)

OIAL MC, Lauren, Judie, Iris, Aiko, and Jasmine around the time Eternum takes place - likely around their early to mid 30s

Carla and Reb around the time Eternum takes place - likely around their late 40s or early 50s

Stabby Mike - likely an old dude, possibly retired (or ascended to godhood), around this time

Unless it's about one of the harem kids' misadventures sometime after the events of Eternum (or a sort of prequel/midquel that happens between the end of OIAL and before the events of Eternum)...I just don't see it happening, to be honest.

 

[Ellyx]

Damn, thanks for all the info. It would be awesome if they could make a cameo though.
From what i heard OIAL 2 will be after Eternum so lets see how the two story is connected in anyway

We all know how sequel goes usually, so that will be without me

 

[Elhemeer]

That is the advantage that I really don't "care" for the sex scenes in the sense that I just take what Cari gives us in that regard.

Among other things probably because Luna will likely be the last one to even get a complete sex scene...

I can say the same, when a sex scene plays out my eyes are glued to screen and i don't even scratch my dick
I like adult games where it's not all about sex, maybe i am the weird one here

You know sometimes i get triggered when some people say ''Oh come on, this update was plot only, where are the sex scene?'' and im here literally because this fucking ADULT game captured me with its story..

I WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING

... and about 75% of everything else from my sleep cycle

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Well, I can see that I'm gonna have to just accept that I'm not going to be able to keep up with overnight Eternum F95Zone anymore, but to throw my 2 cents into this subject; I've only ever got past the first chapter of any AVN if the story and the characters captured my fancy.

Neither the art style, play style, nor the amount of x-rated content has ever been a determining factor in me continuing a story. It has been a factor in me STARTING some, but I've enjoyed a few games outside my usual preferences due to recommendations, and I've given up on a few featuring my particular enjoyments 'cause the story and/or character interactions didn't hold on to my interest.

Also, despite making the joke about how could someone be blue balled after Alex's marathon, what really throws me off is that so many people that play a story-rich game like this (or similarly games that are rich in character development, even if the "plot" is less important) complain about the fact that their favorite character STILL hasn't lost their MC virginity (or that their favorite character didn't lose their virginity to the MC, but that's another subject altogether).

In this game, I don't really have a favorite character, but Annie is the closest for me. Yet, despite that, and how hot Nancy and Alex' full sex scenes were, Luna's massage, for me, has been the most erotic. And in another game, I enjoyed a character's first orgasm received from the MC while getting a back massage more than the game's first sex scene (which was pretty damn good, actually).

Anyway, Time to get to work so I can miss another couple of pages of Eternum discussion. Take care all.

 

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[Dorfnutter]

Also, despite making the joke about how could someone be blue balled after Alex's marathon, what really throws me off is that so many people that play a story-rich game like this (or similarly games that are rich in character development, even if the "plot" is less important) complain about the fact that their favorite character STILL hasn't lost their MC virginity (or that their favorite character didn't lose their virginity to the MC, but that's another subject altogether).

To be clear, I'm not complaining that Annie hasn't lost her virginity yet. What I was complaining about was that the scene with her felt shorter and less fulfilling compared to her Andromeda scene and I wished it continued further into...something, I dunno, maybe a kind of early penetration scene perhaps that may or may not involve Orion's salami (or at the very least a sort of "just the tip" scene or a dildo scene or something, since she and Orion are supposed to be prepping for the full course eventually)? Doesn't have to go all the way, even something akin to Nancy's scene back in Semper Invicta (where they get interrupted by someone like Carolyn since she's still in the room after all...or Annie getting cold feet all of a sudden) would've worked.

But again, that's just my opinion on the matter. /shrugs

 

[Takkatakka]

To be clear, I'm not complaining that Annie hasn't lost her virginity yet. What I was complaining about was that the scene with her felt shorter and less fulfilling compared to her Andromeda scene and I wished it continued further into...something, I dunno, maybe a kind of early penetration scene perhaps that may or may not involve Orion's salami (or at the very least a sort of "just the tip" scene or a dildo scene or something, since she and Orion are supposed to be prepping for the full course eventually)? Doesn't have to go all the way, even something akin to Nancy's scene back in Semper Invicta (where they get interrupted by someone like Carolyn since she's still in the room after all...or Annie getting cold feet all of a sudden) would've worked.

But again, that's just my opinion on the matter. /shrugs

Wasn't that the first time she really got...active herself though? I thought the build-up was pretty good and...I mean...you have her promise now.

 

[Dorfnutter]

Wasn't that the first time she really got...active herself though? I thought the build-up was pretty good and...I mean...you have her promise now.

Well yeah. But again, when you compare it to the Andromeda scene and the other stuff that happened in this patch (i.e. the Alex scene) it felt...

...ah fuck it...

...it felt like a downgrade. All of it. The music (I'm sorry, but compared to the one used in Andromeda it just didn't work for me), the scene composition, the overall mood. It all felt lacking and some sort of extra escalation would've at least salvaged it in my opinion.

There, I said it. I told myself I wasn't going to be too harsh with that scene but fuck it. -_-

 

[MagnusTempestus6]

...where they get interrupted by someone like Carolyn since she's still in the room after all...

Warning: Shower thoughts ahead...
Don't know if this has been added to the Everestian pile of crackpot theories yet, but what if, considering the possibility that abilities from Eternum can also be used on earth, Carolyn is someone in a state of transformation like the ones Alex can use?
Food for thought. I should step out of the shower now...

 

[Dorfnutter]

Warning: Shower thoughts ahead...
Don't know if this has been added to the Everestian pile of crackpot theories yet, but what if, considering the possibility that abilities from Eternum can also be used on earth, Carolyn is someone in a state of transformation like the ones Alex can use?
Food for thought. I should step out of the shower now...

Like Peter Pettigrew from "The Prisoner of Azkaban?" Ehhh, I dunno...I'd sooner believe that if Orion was the one with the pet and not the Carters considering he's the one that's at the center of every batshit insanity that's been happening in the story so far. Far more likely that Carolyn is a normal cat but is somewhat aware of what's happening to Orion given the

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[Takkatakka]

Well yeah. But again, when you compare it to the Andromeda scene and the other stuff that happened in this patch (i.e. the Alex scene) it felt...

...ah fuck it...

...it felt like a downgrade. All of it. The music (I'm sorry, but compared to the one used in Andromeda it just didn't work for me), the scene composition, the overall mood. It all felt lacking and some sort of extra escalation would've at least salvaged it in my opinion.

There, I said it. I told myself I wasn't going to be too harsh with that scene but fuck it. -_-

The advantage of me not really caring about how far or...not far...the scenes go. And for me it certainly felt like another step forward for Annie, especially if the MC let her find her own rhythm.

 

[Dylan741]

Well yeah. But again, when you compare it to the Andromeda scene and the other stuff that happened in this patch (i.e. the Alex scene) it felt...

...ah fuck it...

...it felt like a downgrade. All of it. The music (I'm sorry, but compared to the one used in Andromeda it just didn't work for me), the scene composition, the overall mood. It all felt lacking and some sort of extra escalation would've at least salvaged it in my opinion.

There, I said it. I told myself I wasn't going to be too harsh with that scene but fuck it. -_-

Hey man, there's nothing wrong in your opinion.
When you're so invested in a character you always want the best for them, and when you see that's not happening in your eyes, and that the scene with them could have been better it's absolutely understandable to talk about it.
I appreciated the scene with Annie, but now that I've had enough time to process all the update I must say that I agree with you, it could have been better, it felt a little rushed ( a little like with the Cluedo part that was good but, imho, could have been something more).
I mean in it's entirety the episode is fantastic, but in my opinion maybe it should have been split in two parts to give justice to all the content Cari thought out, and this is the first time that I say " I've seen a lot of content but not everything was developed properly".
And that was the risk I feared for Cari; having so many things in mind and trying to put them all together in the game, that at some point he had to rush them because of the dead lines and the necessity to deliver the content.
The only difference is that this was due to an overabundant amount of content so at least we didn't waited months for a poor and short update, but the sensation that some parts were shortened is there, oh well it's still a great content so I will stop there with the "complain" sorry for the wall of writing.
I can only be grateful to Cari for this gem, I still can't believe that everything is true considering how stunning the game has been until now, it looks like a dream to have so much to play and at this level of quality, the bar is so high that I don't know how he will trump it the next time ( though I'm sure he will surprise us 'till the end).

P.S. To all of you this only my humble opinion, so take it for what it is, I've never been one to consider myself an indisputable authority, as some other users believe (thankfully not in this thread at least for now) and I won't start doing that now.

 

[Elhemeer]

Well yeah. But again, when you compare it to the Andromeda scene and the other stuff that happened in this patch (i.e. the Alex scene) it felt...

...ah fuck it...

...it felt like a downgrade. All of it. The music (I'm sorry, but compared to the one used in Andromeda it just didn't work for me), the scene composition, the overall mood. It all felt lacking and some sort of extra escalation would've at least salvaged it in my opinion.

There, I said it. I told myself I wasn't going to be too harsh with that scene but fuck it. -_-

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[Dorfnutter]

The advantage of me not really caring about how far or...not far...the scenes go. And for me it certainly felt like another step forward for Annie, especially if the MC let her find her own rhythm.

I care less about the "winning" side of it all and more about the storytelling aspect of the scenes. To me, the Andromeda scene felt perfect because it told the story that was supposed to happen during the "Run Boy Run" incident. There, their tender moment was basically ruined by somewhat raging hormones and a guy who may have been too horny for his own good (but it was fine since it established that it was a "emotions were high, both weren't thinking straight, it was all about the moment...and hormones...horny hormones..." kind of affair). The Andromeda scene rectified that by putting them in a more relaxed state where they could finally be a lot more honest with one another. Everything that happened after was a perfect balance between lewdness and intimacy, with both baring themselves truthfully to one another (without the raging hormones fucking it all up).

Which was why I felt their scene in 0.6 was kind of a regression. Once again, Orion had to take in the reigns at the beginning to coax Annie out of her shell and be truthful to her desires (even though the scene in Andromeda established that they're going to be truthful to one another). Once again, they're "exploring" one another like in Andromeda, but this time it feels like they're still hovering in some sort of wall that they supposedly overcame back in that scene. Granted, maybe Annie is still afraid to cross that threshold, but that just weakens the overall theme of this scene - which is Annie taking the initiative - in my opinion because it spends the first 2/3rds of the scene repeating what they did in Andromeda. It would've been better had Annie taken the initiative at the beginning, which would show that she has grown from their last tender moment together.

Which was why I thought the escalation was needed. Had that "2/3rds repeat of Andromeda" thing I mentioned not happened, then yes, fine, no escalation necessary. Scene would've done its job, things would've been fine. But no, from a storytelling perspective it didn't move the needle significantly, we're still basically extending the Andromeda scene, not move past that and go beyond or grow out of it. Instead we'll have to wait until 0.8 to see Annie truly blossom into what she's meant to be.

So no, it's not about wanting to see my favorite girl go to pound town. It's about the fact that I had major expectations that their scene this update will go beyond what was presented in Andromeda, both from a storytelling and presentation perspective. Instead, what we got was another small step for Annie, I suppose. Woopdedoo.

Anyway, that's simply my honest opinion on the matter. You can disagree or argue, I don't mind. To be clear though, I don't hate Cari for it, he obviously had a lot on his plate with this update (the Collector whodunit and the many paths and resolutions to that likely took quite a lot of time to do, as well as the wild west stuff and Caly's backstory and Alex's scene), and the scene in question still was fine overall in a "not great, not terrible" sort of way.

I suppose I just had too much expectations on the matter after Andromeda, so it's a "me" problem I suppose. /shrugs

 

[Dorfnutter]

And that was the risk I feared for Cari; having so many things in mind and trying to put them all together in the game, that at some point he had to rush them because of the dead lines and the necessity to deliver the content.

I feel like the Collector whodunit and him getting sick supposedly during the course of 0.6's development were the things that did him in this update. Had it not been for that the rest of the update likely would've gotten a bit more love I think. But regardless, the main objectives (i.e. move the story forward, reveal significant lore stuff for theorists to chew on for months, set up events for next update, have significant lewd scenes) were still accomplished.

 

[Dylan741]

I feel like the Collector whodunit and him getting sick supposedly during the course of 0.6's development were the things that did him in this update. Had it not been for that the rest of the update likely would've gotten a bit more love I think. But regardless, I suppose the main objectives (i.e. move the story forward, reveal significant lore stuff for theorists to chew on for months, set up events for next update, have significant lewd scenes) were still accomplished.

Yeah it's more than possible I had the same impression, with a story so complex in terms of lore, having the need to keep the balance with the romantic counterparts and also with the hurdle of having a rigid schedule for the releases, even the smaller hiccup occurring in the development can lead to issues.
Also considering his work ethics I know he pushed trough to deliver anyway ( despite him having the health issue) so the update was great like I said, just a little bit "rough" on some edges.
And I'm sorry to even talk about these (few) flaws, because with all the efforts he's putting into the game and the insane amount of content we see every updates, it seems like I'm badmouthing him... And I feel bad for that, and I don't want to look like I'm ungrateful with him. -_- T_T