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Do you mean to tell me the guy who was defensive at me mocking Luna a few pages back is an Annie hater?
That's too perfect.
Annie is singlehandedly the reason why i DIDNT default to the harem choices on the first playthrough. Luna is great material for muh harem- that's not a complement. Annie on the other hand you'd immediately feel bad about dogging around left and right behind her back -your childhood friend who wanted nothing better in the world but to play her game with you (and get closer to you)
The real question of the hour: Do Annie haters have a soul?
This is very true, the WW2 segment was the first area I actually started to ctrl-key through, because I was like 'i get it, I get it' without even reading the dialogue. Then Annie's drew me back in.
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blud its like parents saying if not for us you wouldnt exist so you must do everything we say, annnnd it still doesnt change the fact that she is boring as hell
They are examples intended to distinguish between functional importance and character development. A character can be both functionally important and totally bland. Thus, giving examples of how functionally important a character is does nothing to establish how interesting they are. That's just not how you argue that a character is good. I'm not sure why making that point would be "unnerving" to you.
Shame on you for trying to poison the well like this. There is nothing wrong with people not liking the same things you do. Not everybody finds Annie particularly interesting and appealing. There is nothing wrong with that, nor with them.
Eh, some are more interesting than others. Some are kinda one-note.
I don't have a problem with the idea that Annie has some interesting traits. I feel they have been underdeveloped so far. One of the main traits that initially set Annie apart from the other characters was her enthusiasm for/knowledge of Eternum. That got leveled out as the story progressed . Now everybody's playing.
Another thing that comes up in the detective sequence is that she is perceptive, intuitive, and empathetic. Those traits see her through that situation even when her magic powers are useless. If she's being "teed up" as another poster suggested, I hope it has something to do with that and not "she just needs to believe in herself" or "she just needs the right situation to shine/ to evolve a new power."
Maybe you shouldn't get so upset that other people aren't fascinated by the same characters you are. If you can't have that discussion without upsetting yourself, try doing something else. Getting mad at people for saying they don't see what you see in a fictional character isn't healthy.
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I mean their fan base were named "Lunatics" for a reason. (Sometimes they just let their intrusive thoughts win)Do you mean to tell me the guy who was defensive at me, mocking Luna a few pages back is an Annie hater?
That's too perfect.
The real question of the hour: Do Annie haters have a soul?
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Laughable that you say that as meeting and fucking Eva wouldn't even have been fucking possible had she not given those eternals to Orion.
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yk what any-chan is the best wingman of mc
THE KDB TO MC's HAALAND
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Sure, sure, keep deluding yourself into thinking that she's only there as a wingman even when we get to the epilogue and she ends up preggers with the rest of the harem (and likely married to Orion as well).
Meanwhile Eva will continue to rot in the side girl bar where she rightfully belongs.
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ANNNND THE WINERRRRRRRRRR OF THE BEST PLAYMAKER AWARD GOES TO MS. WINTERSSSSSSSS FOR HER ABSOLUTELY WORLDCLASS ASSIST TO THE MC, THAT MADE HIM GET LAID, I MEAN SCOREE HIS 1ST GOALLLLLL
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Oh boy you're really gonna make me do this again aren't you ? This is unnerving because Caribdis make well-written characters, whilst Tolkien's characters are bland and only here to serve the story and the world they're in. The fact you can't see that and compare two different style is unnerving to me because it shows you can't see the quality of character's writings, and yet still comparing them.
I'd argue that, since most of people here likes each LI, you are the one trying to poison the well. Plus, like I said, it's all about the quality of character's writings. Annie is interesting and appealing, because she's well written. So if someone can't appreciate it, it's on them. I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm just saying that "Annie is not interesting or appealing" is a false statement. She is, and if YOU or anyone else is not interested, it's not because of the character, it's on you. Say "I AM not interested" instead of "SHE IS not interesting", and I'll stop bothering you. The character is great, if anyone can't appreciate it it's on them. Not saying it's wrong, just saying the character don't need to be changed by your opinion, just as your opinion don't need to be changed by the character.
Oh, also. There's a difference between being interested and liking. Caribdis write his characters well so all of them interest me to a degree. I find Axel and Alex's father very interesting, even though I don't like them. Dislike all you want, don't be interested all you want, just stop trying to blame the character's writings and we'll be good.
Well see that's where you're wrong. Annie is interesting not only for her enthusiasm / knowledge of Eternum, but also because she's nice. Her being a scaredy cat, and her growing out of being nervous all the time is part of the character and one other reason why she's interesting. Her trying to prove to everyone she's useful is also part of her character. There's other traits you (and probably others) don't appreciate. Maybe because you're blind to them or because you just don't find them interesting. The fact is, her enthusiasm and knowledge for Eternum is not her only interesting trait. She is different from the other LI, she has her own character traits that make her interesting.
The issue with too much expectations is that you don't see the character but what you want them to be. That's a thing that happen to a lot of people watching or playing fictions. My view is : the fact she shows that she's perceptive and intuitive just add to the whole character. We already seen that she's empathetic before so that's not new, but my point is that it just adds to the whole character. That moment was great.
Yes, I know it's not healthy. I'm trying to cope with the fact that people can't appreciate good stuff and then use bad arguments to support why said things are "not interesting". You answering me is not helping tho.
Although trying to prove to people on the internet that a fictional character they like is not interesting seem equally unhealthy. That's another example of trying to shift the blame, which I understand. People do that very often and it's difficult to get past that. Like "oh this character is very uninteresting, it's not at all because I AM not interested that I think so, it's just the character".
Nice try btw.
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I've stirred the pot. Now to sit back and watch it all burn...
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Yeah, obviously you're just trolling at this point and not actually listening, so I think this conversation has run its course.
Good fucking day.
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Jokes on you all. No where did I say I hated her. Simply said she was blandish and hasn't truly suremounted to anything truly memorible as of yet as of her current character/story. Could that change down the road, of course.
Also, Alex is my queen, not Loony Lunes. Get it fucking right people... sheesh.
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Nobody is making you do anything.
I wasn't comparing them in the way you suggest. I was using Tolkien's characters as examples of characters who are functionally important but nonetheless uninteresting. I did this because some posters seemed to be arguing about whether Annie had done anything important in the plot as if it were a proxy for how good or interesting a character she was. Nowhere did I say that Caribdis' characters are equally bland to Tolkien's.
Do you know what is meant by "poisoning the well", and do you understand why I brought it up?
This seems to be an opinion, stated as if it were fact. Has it occured to you that reasonable people may disagree on whether Annie is interesting and appealing?
"Annie is not interesting or appealing" is a value judgement misstated as a fact. So is "Annie is interesting and appealing". I do not find Annie as interesting or appealing as Luna; pointing this out does not implicate me in a falsehood. Nor is it evidence of some character defect on my part.
There are people who don't find Mozart or Beethoven to be interesting or appealing; there are people who don't find Tolstoy interesting or appealing; there are people who do not find Rembrandt interesting or appealing. There is nothing presumptively wrong with such people, nor with their views. To say otherwise is just opinionated assholery.
Why should anyone stop saying "Annie is not interesting or appealing" when you think it's perfectly OK to say "Annie *is* interesting or appealing"? That's just more opinionated rhetoric, insisting that you should have the privilege to state your opinions as fact while suppressing those who disagree with you.
Well, yes you are. And it makes you come off as pompous.
I have no idea why you wrote that.
Really? I didn't know that. I'm so glad you told me that, because without your brilliant insight it would never have occurred to me that those were different concepts. /sarcasm.
I have a better suggestion: stop telling me what to say. I'm not terribly concerned if you and I are good. You're just some opinionated rando on the internet who feels compelled to Me for some reason. You really need to get over your compulsion to shout down opinions that you don't agree with. It's not healthy. And it won't work.
I get it. You find her interesting. She seems kinda tropey to me. I don't think Annie's terrible or anything. I'm just not that impressed or intrigued by her.
The issue seems to be that I don't share your opinion of the character and you feel compelled to lecture me about what's wrong with that.
Why is it that people on the internet not liking the same things you do is a problem you need to "cope with"? Do you even hear yourself?[/quote]
Meaning what?
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We still have new people discovering the game, like the person I quoted before you. I know I'd be pissed if I saw that shit without spoilers.
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Honestly I can keep going as I'm pretty fucking tilted right now*...but I chose to stop the convo and block as I don't want to end up having to say something that'll put me in the mods' crosshairs so.../shrugs
*Mental note to self: Don't get into an internet argument when you have 6 espressos worth of caffeine currently running in your system
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Yeah that's good for your health you're already losing your mind with your "Mind breaking theories" and now getting high blood from the Annie bashers, which could give you a heart problems, We don't want you ended up like... You know, Jerry