VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.5 Public] [Caribdis]

[Dorfnutter]

Basically, did anyone else get a very strong "I am actually playing the game without an i-patch right now" kind of vibe from that bit of exposition? I mean, come freaking on! It would be "weird" to date one's "childhood friend" because "that's just not the kind of relationship they have?" And Nancy being the MC's "babysitter?" Come on, man...

Annie and Orion both have different fathers (and were shown as such in the flashbacks). No, they do not have the same mother either. Orion would've mentioned something along the lines of Annie's mother having the closest thing he has to his real mother if that was the case.

While there is an option later on for Orion to call Nancy "mommy," that option feels like it's added there for the kink rather than the dev waving the flag saying "BLATANT INCEST VIBES," especially when you consider Penny's flashback later on where the Carters weren't really that emotional/torn-up when Orion revealed that he was leaving for the UK. Even Orion's homecoming in the present is treated more like a family friend returning instead of a brother/son coming back, with the reunion being less tearful/emotional.

 

[MalLiz]

Not this again please.

As already said several times around here, I'm pretty sure this is mainly to assure issues with Patreon. Unfortunely Patreon and their payments companies are being retarded into what could and couldn't be accepted on the platform. Most fans now that Caridbis wants to please the biggest amount of people possible, yet he can't risk losing his sustain. It sucks, but it's the way it is.

Finally, let's not forget that sometimes it's quite hard to write in a way that doesn't bring inconsisties to both possible plots. And I say this with me being a fan of incest in games. I'm not stating that you're wrong, I'm saying that it is the way it is.

Annie and Orion both have different fathers (and were shown as such in the flashbacks). No, they do not have the same mother either. Orion would've mentioned something along the lines of Annie's mother having the closest thing he has to his real mother if that was the case.

While there is an option later on for Orion to call Nancy "mommy," that option feels like it's added there for the kink rather than the dev waving the flag saying "BLATANT INCEST VIBES," especially when you consider Penny's flashback later on where the Carters weren't really that emotional/torn-up when Orion revealed that he was leaving for the UK. Even Orion's homecoming in the present is treated more like a family friend returning instead of a brother/son coming back, with the reunion being less tearful/emotional.

Fellas, chill, I know "what's what" with the game. I am just saying that scene in particular gave me the distinct "I am playing the game without an i-patch" vibe. I know full well there is no incest in the game and that there never was any intention of such by the dev. Admittedly I didn't know it had been pointed out before, but honestly... I shouldn't be surprised. It was a pretty basic observation as far as those go.

...But anyway, my point was just that it felt like the dev (most likely unintentionally) wrote the scene in such a way that it gave off that particular feel. That's all.

-Mal

 

[Das_Peanut]

I only just started playing this one and I instantly had a thought during the early scene on the train when the MC is inner monologuing the shit out of things, particularly about Annie, Nancy and Dalia. Basically, did anyone else get a very strong "I am actually playing the game without an i-patch right now" kind of vibe from that bit of exposition? I mean, come freaking on! It would be "weird" to date one's "childhood friend" because "that's just not the kind of relationship they have?" And Nancy being the MC's "babysitter?" Come on, man...

It just feels like these relationships are haphazardly thrown into the game to cover up what would otherwise be an incest-centric set of relations, all to be fixed and thus revealed with the use of a handy little patch. And yet there is evidently no i-patch available for the game. None that I have seen at least...

...Am I just "overthinking" things here, or did anyone else get the same general vibe from that part of the game?

Edit: I know the game "isn't supposed to" have any incest in it, by the way. I am not totally clueless! (Just partially.) I just get that vibe, you know?

-Mal

Fellas, chill, I know "what's what" with the game. I am just saying that scene in particular gave me the distinct "I am playing the game without an i-patch" vibe. I know full well there is no incest in the game and that there never was any intention of such by the dev. Admittedly I didn't know it had been pointed out before, but honestly... I shouldn't be surprised. It was a pretty basic observation as far as those go.

...But anyway, my point was just that it felt like the dev (most likely unintentionally) wrote the scene in such a way that it gave off that particular feel. That's all.

-Mal

I get what you mean, especially if you only consider earlier versions (up to 0.4 or so). The whole incest thing is so prevalent in this niche of games that the idea of poorly disguised familial relationships warps the storytelling in so, so many of them; Cari might have defaulted to that sort of set up when he started (OiaLT was an incest game, afterall). However, I do think that he's been doing a great job of avoiding many of the clichés that grate on my nerves – you know, "I shouldn't, she's my landlady!" (So fucking what?) and so on – as he further develops his characters.
In fact, his writing (thankfully) lacks all the nonsensical angst and artificial pudency that are hallmarks of the quasi-incestual game disguised with a veneer of conformity to Patreon's ToS. Nancy starts out withdrawn because of the age difference and her history with Orion (which is understandable), but the whole thing is resolved quite organically, rather than milked for "kink points", if you know what I mean. Orion's relationship with Annie and the Carters is explored in a way that feels like it is what it is said to be, rather than a stand-in for thinly veiled domestic life.
All in all, I can see people who love incest games patching this one and liking it, as it lends itself to it. Still, I think any overtones the original text might contain don't get in the way for people who aren't into the kink, like me.

TLDR: I do think you have a point, but the game quickly looses this "I am playing without an i-patch" vibe – and I'm glad for it.

 

[lejaxfzone]

Shouldn't there be any issues with the save files. All files are usable from release to release. My guess is that either your save file got corrupted, or you were using any mod and now you aren't.

Oh, I was using Sancho mod back then. I guess it is the problem. Because I can open it in other version.

 

[DavidLN24]

Hey everyone hopefully someone can help me I’ve been looking for the latest IOS IPA file for Eternum if any of you know where I can download it would be appreciated

 

[someoneyouknow2452]

do you think "the genocide" will be in 0.9 or will it be in 0.10 ?

My own theory is that it refers to the ongoing massacre of NPCs by the Xenomorphs. First in Andromeda and then also in Valley of the Kings. I really hope it doesn't refer to a future event in Hyril'ar

 

[Dorfnutter]

My own theory is that it refers to the ongoing massacre of NPCs by the Xenomorphs. First in Andromeda and then also in Valley of the Kings. I really hope it doesn't refer to a future event in Hyril'ar

It would be a legit reason for Caly to be forced to leave her home and stick with Orion tho. Otherwise the latter would end up having to leave her and thus write her out of the story (unless some plot convenient scenario happens again where Orion is able to come and go as he pleases thus allowing him to keep seeing Caly...but I dunno, that sounds like it'll slow down the pacing a tad IMO).

 

[someoneyouknow2452]

It would be a legit reason for Caly to be forced to leave her home and stick with Orion tho. Otherwise the latter would end up having to leave her and thus write her out of the story (unless some plot convenient scenario happens again where Orion is able to come and go as he pleases thus allowing him to keep seeing Caly...but I dunno, that sounds like it'll slow down the pacing a tad IMO).

I agree we need a good reason for Calypso to stay with the gang even after finding her way home. It's just that it would suck if Hyril'ar is destroyed. She deserves better than that.

There has been talk of an upcoming war. The Xenomorph invasion was likely the first shot in that war. I could easily see WRE and Hyril'ar becoming allies.

 

[Dorfnutter]

It's just that it would suck if Hyril'ar is destroyed. She deserves better than that.

Could be possible if the one initiating the genocide is after Orion and Caly (i.e. Thanny), as the solution is obviously to flee so that the initiator would be forced to stop the massacre and pursue the two to wherever world they jump to (unless it happens to be Kredon, in which case Thanny might end up having to sit it out until Orion jumps back to Eternum).

There has been talk of an upcoming war. The Xenomorph invasion was likely the first shot in that war. I could easily see WRE and Hyril'ar becoming allies.

Could end up being a Helm's Deep moment where the survivors of the initial massacre show up in the final battle to assist the WRE just as they're about to be overrun (especially if Caly had no way of knowing if anyone survived following the jump...if that scenario ends up happening anyway).

 

[Donettes]

It would be a legit reason for Caly to be forced to leave her home and stick with Orion tho. Otherwise the latter would end up having to leave her and thus write her out of the story (unless some plot convenient scenario happens again where Orion is able to come and go as he pleases thus allowing him to keep seeing Caly...but I dunno, that sounds like it'll slow down the pacing a tad IMO).

I agree we need a good reason for Calypso to stay with the gang even after finding her way home. It's just that it would suck if Hyril'ar is destroyed. She deserves better than that.

There has been talk of an upcoming war. The Xenomorph invasion was likely the first shot in that war. I could easily see WRE and Hyril'ar becoming allies.

I don't remember it exactly, but didn't they have some sort of 'pact' where Orion would help Caly find her homeland while Caly would help him find the 10 gems of doom? I think for that reason alone (honor/pride) Caly would follow him (besides the fondness that has grown between them) despite being reunited with her people. And of course, a wipeout of her kind would be a brutal means for this to happen anyway.

 

[d5aqoep]

do you think "the genocide" will be in 0.9 or will it be in 0.10 ?

After 0.9 is 1.0 (0 in decimals has no value) 0.10 is actually 0.1

"woke"

It is highly amusing to see someone calling a "Harem" game as woke.

 

[adanu]

After 0.9 is 1.0 (0 in decimals has no value) 0.10 is actually 0.1



It is highly amusing to see someone calling a "Harem" game as woke.

There are woke elements in this game. Light, but there.

 

[Dorfnutter]

I don't remember it exactly, but didn't they have some sort of 'pact' where Orion would help Caly find her homeland while Caly would help him find the 10 gems of doom? I think for that reason alone (honor/pride) Caly would follow him (besides the fondness that has grown between them) despite being reunited with her people. And of course, a wipeout of her kind would be a brutal means for this to happen anyway.

Caly may have made the pact, but I'm not sure if her people would allow her to fulfill said pact considering that they would want her to stay in the realm after being gone for so long. Her being forced to abandon her realm in order to save it/because her people want her to live on is just me thinking of a convenient excuse for her to continue her journey with Orion while also linking it to the events that the Syndicate guy at the Valley of Kings foreshadowed.

After 0.9 is 1.0 (0 in decimals has no value) 0.10 is actually 0.1

0.9 -> 0.10 is the numbering Cari uses for his versions tho.

 

[xPragmatic]

I wasn't expecting their to be a dark souls meme, Humor in a game like this is peak, "Micaela of the Boreal Valley"

 

[Donettes]

Caly may have made the pact, but I'm not sure if her people would allow her to fulfill said pact considering that they would want her to stay in the realm after being gone for so long. Her being forced to abandon her realm in order to save it/because her people want her to live on is just me thinking of a convenient excuse for her to continue her journey with Orion while also linking it to the events that the Syndicate guy at the Valley of Kings foreshadowed.

Oh right, I didn't think of that. But even if her people objected, there's nothing they could do to stop her from going with Orion if she wanted to. I can only think of them trying to restrain her in some way, and we already know how Caly feels about that. While I don't disregard that theory, I think the merchant was talking about events that happened in other timelines or that may happen depending on the choices we've made (he also said something about losing all his loved ones), not that it's going to be inevitable. But well we'll see.

 

[Dorfnutter]

Oh right, I didn't think of that. But even if her people objected, there's nothing they could do to stop her from going with Orion if she wanted to. I can only think of them trying to restrain her in some way, and we already know how Caly feels about that. While I don't disregard that theory, I think the merchant was talking about events that happened in other timelines or that may happen depending on the choices we've made (he also said something about losing all his loved ones), not that it's going to be inevitable. But well we'll see.

I mean if her parents are still alive then they alone would likely be enough to stop her (though they might not be enough to stop what's coming, hence why they might opt to let Orion spirit her away to keep her safe).

 

[EcLo]

Anyone know all the background songs used in this game ? i only know a couple which is
blah blah blah by camille de la cruz(penny lambo scene) and silverware by katnip (nova in her room scene)

 

[GamerDaddy]

Anyone know all the background songs used in this game ? i only know a couple which is
blah blah blah by camille de la cruz(penny lambo scene) and silverware by katnip (nova in her room scene)

there was a soundtrack uploaded to spotify and youtube (not sure if they are still up or not)

 

[Padorublad3]

Anyone know all the background songs used in this game ? i only know a couple which is
blah blah blah by camille de la cruz(penny lambo scene) and silverware by katnip (nova in her room scene)

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[Dunner]

Anyone know all the background songs used in this game ? i only know a couple which is
blah blah blah by camille de la cruz(penny lambo scene) and silverware by katnip (nova in her room scene)

Boy do I have some news for you xD

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I mean if her parents are still alive then they alone would likely be enough to stop her (though they might not be enough to stop what's coming, hence why they might opt to let Orion spirit her away to keep her safe).

I think the whole thing will lead to us finding out that Orion is the descendant of the Hero, Villain or (less likely) Anima.
He already has the power to move between realms so that will be his big saving grace.

I presume that Caly will be asleep and when she wakes up (Either with the help of Orion or not) she'll vouch for him and teach him how to TP back to Kredon. I also presume that she'll most likely stay behind (even if she and Orion confess their forbidden love) to appease her people and that's how Orion will be back with the rest of the girls.

I'll be surprised if the whole update is in Hyril'ar.

P.S: The thing with the "Massacre" seemed to be a past event since the Old Man was trying to say that things can't be changed by people bound by fate. Him offering Orion the chance to defy fate yet again (Buy the statue) proves him wrong and thus he knows Orion is on the right path.

But then again I may be wrong =))