Welll... imagine a scene where daughter and mommy will compete?
Dalia vs Nancy come to the room of sleeping Orion and wake him up so that he chooses who has the best ass? For Orion, it will be a matter of life and death
Welll... imagine a scene where daughter and mommy will compete?
Dalia vs Nancy come to the room of sleeping Orion and wake him up so that he chooses who has the best ass? For Orion, it will be a matter of life and death
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So, I generally don't like university settings in adult games. Not because I hate those settings in fiction, but because adult games often don't communicate them well. Make universities look too much like high schools. Throw in weird tropes.
But I find that Eternum does a much better job of showing, hinting and implying a sense of scale. The party shows that the facilities in Kredon seem pretty large (large enough for a university, tho a high school could be possible) with campus buildings, and short segments of class communicate a plausible scale too. Penny's social networking in uni seems independent enough to suggest it isn't linked to a fixed class of mostly the same students or high school-like cliques. And instruction doesn't seem regimented or tied to a high school-sized class either: good use of a lecture theatre. And, best of all, there's no hint that there's 1, only 1 single sorority, the only sorority in the university, that just happens to be really bizarre and porny. Nothing like that. Perfect.
Anyway thought that's pretty ironic for a game where the dominant school setting is in a high school. But kudos to Caribdis.
Welll... imagine a scene where daughter and mommy will compete?
Dalia vs Nancy come to the room of sleeping Orion and wake him up so that he chooses who has the best ass? For Orion, it will be a matter of life and death
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So, I generally don't like university settings in adult games. Not because I hate those settings in fiction, but because adult games often don't communicate them well. Make universities look too much like high schools. Throw in weird tropes.
But I find that Eternum does a much better job of showing, hinting and implying a sense of scale. The party shows that the facilities in Kredon seem pretty large (large enough for a university, tho a high school could be possible) with campus buildings, and short segments of class communicate a plausible scale too. Penny's social networking in uni seems independent enough to suggest it isn't linked to a fixed class of mostly the same students or high school-like cliques. And instruction doesn't seem regimented or tied to a high school-sized class either: good use of a lecture theatre. And, best of all, there's no hint that there's 1, only 1 single sorority, the only sorority in the university, that just happens to be really bizarre and porny. Nothing like that. Perfect.
Anyway thought that's pretty ironic for a game where the dominant school setting is in a high school. But kudos to Caribdis.
This sounds suspiciously like the judgment of Paris. Sir, are you trying to stir up a Trojan war in the Carter household?
So, I generally don't like university settings in adult games. Not because I hate those settings in fiction, but because adult games often don't communicate them well. Make universities look too much like high schools. Throw in weird tropes.
That's because, for these kinds of games, most of the time they are high schools. They're just presented as universities so they can say all the characters are 18+ so it's totally okay. Seriously, next time you play one of those games try pretending it's a high school and everyone is 15 or 16 and see how much more sense it makes, both for writing and for the character design.
Have not seen any bad boy moments people speak of in the beginning. I suspect that the simpish whiteknight is just what Caribdis sees as an ideal.
The reason I play the game is the interesting world and well made sex scenes. The girls are progressive tropes, but luna and annie are pretty feminine and enjoyable.
I didn't place the bad boy moments in the beginning, and Dorf already brought someof them up. Now I'd emphasise that he has mixed motivations at the start, he wants to be rich and famous too, and couldn't be considered actively "simping" for a long while in several arcs, if you prefer that word for it.
But as he develops his powers and becomes more important, he shifts to more callous decisions (tho not Nancy-like manipulation) like threatening Aspen (not a sympathetic character herself though) and even gets inconsiderate to potential LIs. He can try to amplify his fame and notoriety with an edgy nickname ("The Huntsman" by default) too.
But if Orion's behaviour is so annoying to you, why don't you write more about the positives for you? Be the change you want to see in the world. Venting your views a few times is fine, but staying on repeat is an action that invites negative reactions, that can capture you in a cycle of negativity. To give you something to work with, Luna's coincidentally my favourite LI and I rank Annie pretty highly, while I find the mystery of Orion's origin, the identity of his mother, and the nature of Eternum engaging plot points, and I'm drawn to their characterisations.
Like written before, I don't criticize genuinely good behavior. I'm allergic to buttering girls up with compliments/kindness to get sex. Because I dislike the sucking up to them and because its dishonest.
In addition to that, MC in that scene tried to improve her self-esteem, which is fine if its done with pure intention (which is questionable as he isnt concerned with changs or micaelas selfesteem). Its also sucking up to her, because if he had a spine he would tell her that NOBODY cares about her stupid weightlifting. Even fitness thots are aware enough to know that the only reason they lift is keeping their body attractive. He would also tell her that continuing kickboxing will make her look like a pitbull and that, YES, men care about her looks and couldn't care less about her kickboxing. That 80% of the reason any guy cares about anything she does is that she is hot af. Giving her a dose of reality would be a genuine show of benevolence instead of telling her what she likes to hear and let her continue with her idiotic endeavours that will bring her absolute nothing - a girl fretting over a weightlifting competition kek. Does she wanna look like micaela? Everyone aside chang sees her as a freak, including MC. He should tell her that. That would be honest for once. And it would put her at ease at the same time.
TLDR: We can't have good things because men lack the spine to tell girls that what they are doing is prime stupid.
RANT OFF lol
No attack taken, friend. We just exchange opinions.
This is not a battle, fellow internet user. We just talk about an interesting aspect of a fictional character. I have no intention to move the goalposts. I'm conversing in good faith and I think there was a prior situation where I realized you were right and said so.
I havent reached the Nova scene yet. Didn't he just give maat and penelope what they wanted? Fucked maat hard? I dont remember well, but didn't penelope do the "I say I'm not sure, although I really really want you to go further"-thing? I think the one moment where Caribdis tried to make MC act like a bad boy was the Alex pen compliment at the very beginning - although it seemed very try hard.
Simps/whiteknights may mean what they say, but the reason they do it is not genuine kindness but an exchange - kind words in hopes for sex. So I agree, its not really lying but still dishonest. Because they don't give that kindness to non-hot women. So they are at least subconsciously calculating.
If a guy is nice to a girl just because, I wont complain. (Ripples MC does that sometimes.) Nor will I complain if a guy purely wants sex and doesn't hide it in slimy words.
Yeah, I enjoy watching MCs who are genuinely kind and don't hide that they also like to fuck.
I agree, I also wouldn't tell a new friend what to do - if he's a guy. But MC doesn't want dalia as a friend, he wants her as a girlfriend, and contrary to popular showing in progressive movies and such, if a girl is into you, which dalia obviously is, they like being told what to do, and they especially like a guy who is not afraid to tell them what they don't wanna hear - as it shows them he will be honest in everything and that they can really actually trust him. Girls still like dominant masculine guys imo, even if they say otherwise when asked. As the saying goes: Dont listen to what they say, look at what they do. lol
If simps/whiteknights understood it in their heart that what they do doesn't work they wouldn't do it.
MC is not simping in every single situation, in that japanese concubines scene he was just merely a weakling for not doing what he wanted. But he still simps a lot imo. And in a sense he kinda simped for the two japanese chicks, as he would have abandoned important matters to have sex with them.
About your first example: I cannot believe you are serious, Dorfnutter. Manipulating? She practically begged him to continue. Until just recently every man knew that "no" many times means "yes" if shes attracted to the guy, and thats how Caribdis used it here. MC just did exactly what she wanted. If thats your definition of a bad boy...
But it was not simping, thats true.
A home truth is only a home truth if it's a truth. There are female Olympic weightlifters and kickboxers who don't look like pitbulls, so no Dalia wouldn't "look like a pitbull" just from that. Unlike Orion, "every man" couldn't reliably that a woman was attracted to him, especially if he was a narcistic fuckboy. And this isn't the place to recap the western legal history of rape, but "no" generally meant "no" and actual trials involved the limitations of evidence and bias to status and reputation (fama and infamia, in particular). But RETVRN mythlore always ignores factors other than gender.
About Maat, he could fuck her hard and then fuck her over then some by stealing her credits. She reappears in 0.8 if you did. Not that you should sympathise with her, but that isn't simpish. And if he doesn't simp all the time, we can wonder if he simps most of the time, if he's really a "GigaSimp", or if "simp" really captures his core personality in the first place. Considering the totality of the evidence, including Annie and Luna's arc that I mentioned before...
Anyway, in these posts you continued to prioritise your gender ideology over the relevance of these actions for the plot, characterisation, and Caribdis's vision for Eternum. I suggest you write more about your likes, regular readers either know or can guess your dislikes now.
That's because, for these kinds of games, most of the time they are high schools. They're just presented as universities so they can say all the characters are 18+ so it's totally okay. Seriously, next time you play one of those games try pretending it's a high school and everyone is 15 or 16 and see how much more sense it makes, both for writing and for the character design.
That's a fair remark and I didn't name specific "bad" games, but one I was thinking about was WVM where the university college setting is central, and the sorority trope is a poor fit for a high school. But I'll try your high school swap next time.
Though the purpose of that text was more as an intro for praising things that are done well in Eternum.
With the amount of slaying he gets in, probably Achilles, though looks like Thanos could file a complain with Caribdis about the amount of pussy or bussy he gets in comparison.
Damn... I'm starting to remember why Nova is in my top 3. Eternum awakened a thing for gingers in me that I didn't know I had. Damn. (I'd put the eyes emoji here, but if you've seen my previous comments, you'd know that F95 has beef with specifically *me* using emojis. So, I'm not even gonna try. And yes, I am quite sad about it.)