I'm midway through Chapter 3 and I think it's time to admit it: I'm not having as good as a time with this game as I did with the first. I've been struggling to identify the reason why but I think it comes down to the pacing feeling a lot more rushed and the characters are either inconsistent or generally less likable. Is it just me or does anyone else feel this way too?
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I think the pacing is different in that the Hero sicknesses kind of speeds up things in the way they drive your progress , meaning you kind of have to solve them as soon as you can other wise the de-buffs in battle can get annoying. For me though I like the game, it is different but then I think if it were not different it might be a little boring. The battle tactics are a bit different with the MP as opposed to healing potions that cost a shit ton as you progress through the game. The plot is not as well organized as the first game but it is not horrible. I can see what you are getting at but I still am enjoying playing it. Its just different and the first time I played it I was a little disappointed that the old crew was not the focal point of game, was hoping for more of a sequel. Still a good game though imo.
Though there's been a number of QoL upgrades in this game, there have also been some definite downgrades in the gameplay. The inability to use any more than 8 skills in battle, the removal of health recovery items, the encounter gauge going up slower and the lack of fishing to get upgraded equipment were the most notable ones for me. I can understand removing the latter because it would give us OP equipment that would let us just absolutely sail through the game, but I find the first 3 changes pretty questionable at best. I went to replay the original game after I 100% Evenicle 2, and I 100% a fresh save in half the time.
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I am not saying it is perfect by any means I have posted some of my other issues previously in this thread , like drops being totally stupid and the RNG being wonky. It not as good as the last game but it is not a "bad game" either. Still enjoying it for what it is. I respect what both of you are saying , you have legitimate critiques.
how do I go there?
anyone know whats the white line mean? do I need some skill?
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The white line just lets you know where to enter the path to the hidden loot you will kind of have to feel around a bit on the walls to find them , no special skill required.
Funnily enough I don't mind the Hero Syndrome meter/debuffs since you get bonuses for curing them (though granted other peoples experiences may vary on this issue, some people might find it very annoying).
When I say the pacing issues I mean the plot itself in regards to setup and payoff. For example the first game introduces characters Kath in the second chapter but she don't end up being a major character till the third chapter and even her existence was alluded to in the first chapter. This kind of set up and payoff makes the story feel more natural an not like the characters only exist when the plot needs them to. Also the conflict just feels a lot more focused and connected in the first game. There usually just one big bad but their actions influence the events of the entire chapter. Evenicle 2 conflict's feel more sporadic and all over the place especially in chapter 2.
Don't get we wrong, Evenicle 2 is not a bad game by any means and I fully intend on finishing it. I'm just trying to figure out whether I'm not enjoying it as much since I set my expectations too high (since I really liked the first game) or if there are actual objective reasons why I feel the second game isn't as good.
When I say the pacing issues I mean the plot itself in regards to setup and payoff. For example the first game introduces characters Kath in the second chapter but she don't end up being a major character till the third chapter and even her existence was alluded to in the first chapter. This kind of set up and payoff makes the story feel more natural an not like the characters only exist when the plot needs them to. Also the conflict just feels a lot more focused and connected in the first game. There usually just one big bad but their actions influence the events of the entire chapter. Evenicle 2 conflict's feel more sporadic and all over the place especially in chapter 2.
Don't get we wrong, Evenicle 2 is not a bad game by any means and I fully intend on finishing it. I'm just trying to figure out whether I'm not enjoying it as much since I set my expectations too high (since I really liked the first game) or if there are actual objective reasons why I feel the second game isn't as good.
i actually ended up liking the characters in 2 better, but yes it does take a bit for the plot to get going
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They start getting more into the plot in chapter 4 but yeah the plot is not as intriguing in this game and they leave a few gaping holes as well at the end. I totally hear you on expectations as well I was expecting it to be as good as the first. I was alot more attached to the characters in the first game. I get the feeling Alicesoft had a new team involved with this one , like it is not as well thought out and the whole plot is just not as good as the first. it suffers from the dreaded sequel syndrome except it is really not a sequel. I am also wondering if I am not suffering from bias due to my intense like for the first game. But I just decided at some point to enjoy it for what it is, been waiting so long to play the English ver. after slogging through the Japanese ver using a walk through several times.
I already at chapter 4, but just realize I don't have upgraded version of Yuragi's "Blow Skill" because I dont really use Blow that much. Can I still got the skill even though I'm not in chapter 3 anymore if I spam use Blow?
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Yes you can, the walk through is just giving a general idea. If you use the skill enough times you will get it, no matter where you are in the game. I have had some skills show up early if I was grinding to level and I used it enough.
Anyone can share a save for chapter 7?
I think my save got corrupted as Sys43VM error pop out when facing the bosses in Adnan's Lair
I think my save got corrupted as Sys43VM error pop out when facing the bosses in Adnan's Lair
Oh, don't get me wrong. I appear to be in the minority, but I honestly like this game more than the original, especially in terms of the characters, though I loved playing both of them. That being said, there are some parts that are definitely inferior to the original game, mostly on the gameplay side and a bit of the plot.
Does anyone have a problem with pressing CTRL to speed up battle animations? When I do it, the sound effects go out of sync with the animations, and said animations become kinda choppy.
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Have not noticed the audio thing but the CTRL button when I hold it during battle I have seen that it stops working when switching from front row characters to back row characters. Have to let off it and hold again to speed up enemy attacks and I will sometimes wait to gain some BP for a character before I deliver the killing blow and then I notice the front /back thing way more.
Anyone know the best place for exp farm without cheat? I feel like lv up quite slow now I am at chapter 5, but most of my team only around lv 48
The best place to lv grind is the island on the south east of world map I think. beware though, the enemies are extremely strong. Kano's insta-kill skill works wonder here.
You can also try to looks for lucky cancan. You can find it anywhere in the world map. A trick to do this is just equip weak enemies killer on kano and stroll around on the first island. I got 2 lucky cancans this way.
Does the yuragi defense reduction skills stack. I have both on right now, but I don't feel like it's reducing attacks by 55%
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