noobtrain

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how turn off birth control on Slave? and why is block ? slave is a property.
Nursery factory :) hired nanny / and hired A pediatrician is a medical doctor who manages the physical, behavioral, and mental care of children from birth until age 18.

IRL there country gov use this Nursery care build a Loyal soldier to that country..

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This seems to come up a lot. With Evil 2 we attempt to keep one foot in fantasy and one foot in reality. There are tons of games on F95Zone that have both feet in fantasy. For us at least, this damages immersion. We want to maintain some semblance of reality in line with the Evil 2 game world.

Thank you kurosx for posting this link!

https://f95zone.to/threads/evil-2-v0-73-community-project.41582/post-16204259

What you're suggesting with the nursery would cost you money! The government is poor and isn't going to pay for it. So slaves now turn into a major expense instead of profit. This makes no sense. Evil 2 is not a slave breeding game. Impregnate non-sex workers all you want.
 

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Honestly, I no longer understand the direction of this game too much. We are on a game of mafia, where we do human trafficking, where if they do not pay us, either we kill either we target. We go so far as to be able to make our own mother slave. My behind, we cannot kill for nothing, obliges us not to have our whores engraved by customers.

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noobtrain

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Honestly, I no longer understand the direction of this game too much. We are on a game of mafia, where we do human trafficking, where if they do not pay us, either we kill either we target. We go so far as to be able to make our own mother slave. My behind, we cannot kill for nothing, obliges us not to have our whores engraved by customers.
I agree with most of what you said so I'm not sure where the disconnect is. Evil 2 takes place in it's own unique world. It's often difficult to make players fully understand it but we do our best. There are usually good reasons why the game is set up the way it is but players don't always see it.

We can't however make a game that everyone likes (impossible). I'm sorry that we didn't meet your expectations.
 

KhaiFirst

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eh i got it thx dev for game. just private nursery mc grow its own Soldier.. haha just my thought.. but i understand TQ game is awesome!
 

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Both. It's expensive for sure. Early game you only need to give shooting training to one gang member to be the gunman for robberies. This same gang member can be used mid game to be assigned as a hitman and kill Mabuta. So early to mid game you only really need to do this for one gang member. The muscle job for the cartel is optional and requires a high boxing skill which takes a while.

Once you fully upgrade your first factory you'll have plenty of money to spend on guns. Until that point just train one gang member so you can do robberies.
depends on how you play!
my MC is a millionaire before i hire my 1st gang member!
you can actually play law abiding citizen and become a millionaire before the games 1 year turns!
i mean mostly the wealth will be either factories or stores but turning 50.000 a day or more!

fuck my last playthrough i had over 400 bitches and 100 gang members! plus 3-4 millions a day earnings!
and 700 millions in the bank account plus all the factories and stores and mansion and shit!
all my gang members were perfectly trained driven luxury cars and all the shebang!
should be around my 3rd or 4 year still trying to finish college and reach top boxing skills!

I agree with most of what you said so I'm not sure where the disconnect is. Evil 2 takes place in it's own unique world. It's often difficult to make players fully understand it but we do our best. There are usually good reasons why the game is set up the way it is but players don't always see it.

We can't however make a game that everyone likes (impossible). I'm sorry that we didn't meet your expectations.
i actually play it as an alternate reality!
its eastern europe if serfdom had never been abolished and evolved and thus we have a slavic culture of slavery! (IT'S IN THE FUCKING NAME FFS!)
however that culture is still controlled by the church and state and thus people can bind themselves into slavery but not be born into it!
thus why slaves need to sign contracts and why forcing people into slavery is such an ethical and moral problem,
since then you can get the church on your ass and thus give the state a reason to steal everything you have and treat you as a criminal!

Also helps to explain the amount of drugs and booze issues in the game!
and ofc why are all the girls white skinny and look fairly young!
i mean an husband can not sell their wife or children into slavery!
thus why the church although it does not appear much in the game still hold sway over the majority of the population,
1st it defends slavery against the "western" world view as a cultural thing!
at the same time prevents people from being morally abused by having children born to slaves or into slavery!
you could even post it as a world divide like the cold war on one side the "sea nations" and their anti slavery stance and the "continental nations!" as pro slavery!

its quite funny that slavery only became taboo in the western world when it turned racist,
and racism is only bad cause in spite of your race,
you can adopt a cultural religion and its wrong to discriminate against the believers!
Slavery as been banned in England since the 10th century,
they decided to adopt an anti slavery position cause Napoleon and the french revolution used slavery as both a weapon against the conservative world
and still used slaves in their colonies to produce sugar and feed the French war effort,
not that philosophically there was not a stand against slavery before,
or even theologians during the colonial time fighting against slavery!
Charles the V the hapsburg emperor banned slavery in the colonies
One of the greatest Portuguese preachers and scholarly priest was fiercely against slavery "Antonio Vieira!"

so slavery became taboo and and the abolishing of it became feasible cause it became useful to do so!
even in the USA and its story of slavery, it was extended for 40 more years cause the industrial revolution allowed for it to remain profitable!

cause allow me to elucidate people, the price of a slave was the price of what today would be the cost of an average house in the USA!
yeah paying 600.000 dollars for every "human worker" was not economically efficient.. go figure...
considering the worth of a wage was around 100 dollars a day back than (yeah money was worth more back then... inflation and shit... )

but in my version of history, being a slave owner was too much of a status symbol and therefore it never got banned in Eurasia
and thus the world is divided nowadays beteween slave nations and anti slave nations,
but even amongst the anti slave nations 80% have been "persuaded" by the united states and few atlantic nations who forced everyone they could to abolish,
But Russia was strong enough to tell them to fuck off, meanwhile India and China are officially anti slavery while still "allowing it due to cultural identity!"

but that's just me, and i am sort of weird so! you create your own history and reason why things are how they are in evil2´s world however its more fun for you!

To get my understanding on this i support it on Gugin books actually!
Cause Protestants abolished slavery, based on Catholic arguments, while the Orthodox´s defended it!
 
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Brok TheDog

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This seems to come up a lot. With Evil 2 we attempt to keep one foot in fantasy and one foot in reality. There are tons of games on F95Zone that have both feet in fantasy. For us at least, this damages immersion. We want to maintain some semblance of reality in line with the Evil 2 game world.

Thank you kurosx for posting this link!

https://f95zone.to/threads/evil-2-v0-73-community-project.41582/post-16204259

What you're suggesting with the nursery would cost you money! The government is poor and isn't going to pay for it. So slaves now turn into a major expense instead of profit. This makes no sense. Evil 2 is not a slave breeding game. Impregnate non-sex workers all you want.
State cannot, but we can manage this. If he is a boy, resell him either at birth, or wait for him to be adult and train him, then resell him. As for the girls, more whores to put in the brothels or resell them like birth. Op problem resolved.
 
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State cannot, but we can manage this. If he is a boy, resell him either at birth, or wait for him to be adult and train him, then resell him. As for the girls, more whores to put in the brothels or resell them like birth. Op problem resolved.
i don't think dev want make game too "real" this is fantasy game :) having Nursery / orphanage use as privatize is too realistic (i can share news such but got crack down by gov after operating more 30year)
 

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State cannot, but we can manage this. If he is a boy, resell him either at birth, or wait for him to be adult and train him, then resell him. As for the girls, more whores to put in the brothels or resell them like birth. Op problem resolved.
i don't think dev want make game too "real" this is fantasy game :) having Nursery / orphanage use as privatize is too realistic (i can share news such but got crack down by gov after operating more 30year)
There isn't code to support using slaves as breeders. Slave children would have to be cared for and provided for for 16 years before they could be put to work, at least in the sex industry. That's 16 years at your expense before they turn a profit. Sure, they could do basic chores to help out but wouldn't be generating caps until they're of legal age. The MC isn't running a plantation where the slave children could help farm like they did in America in 1619 to 1865 when slavery was legal.

Slave breeding seems to be popular but it's a difficult fit in the Evil 2 world. Yes, it could be implemented but what's the point really aside from forcing a slave to get pregnant and have children? If you impregnate very many slaves you now have a major housing issue. All these slave babies can't turn a profit for 16 years. I struggle to see the point...

This is why girls of legal age are captured and trained as slaves. Someone else took care of them and raised them so you skip all the hard work and costs of bringing them from birth to adulthood.

We've loosely compared the Evil 2 game world to Mexico in the 1950s but with the technology we had in roughly 1998. The country is made up of 80% poor, 15% middle class, and 5% rich class. Everyone is struggling to put food on the table and have a roof over their heads. Purchasing a huge boarding house to feed, house, and clothe numerous slave babies for some unknown purpose is puzzling.

As far as reselling slave babies, there's no market for it. With 80% of the population being poor there's no market for it. Remember the great depression in the United States from 1929 to 1939? Families were giving away their children to more prosperous people and relatives because they couldn't afford to feed them. This is a lot like the Evil 2 world.
 
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There isn't code to support using slaves as breeders. Slave children would have to be cared for and provided for for 16 years before they could be put to work, at least in the sex industry. That's 16 years at your expense before they turn a profit. Sure, they could do basic chores to help out but wouldn't be generating caps until they're of legal age. The MC isn't running a plantation where the slave children could help farm like they did in America in 1619 to 1865.

Slave breeding seems to be popular but it's a difficult fit in the Evil 2 world. Yes, it could be implemented but what's the point really aside from forcing a slave to get pregnant and have children? If you impregnate very many slaves you now have a major housing issue. All these slave babies can't turn a profit for 16 years. I struggle to see the point...

This is why girls of legal age are captured and trained as slaves. Someone else took care of them and raised them so you skip all the hard work and costs of bringing them from birth to adulthood.

We've loosely compared the Evil 2 game world to Mexico in the 1950s but with the technology we had in roughly 1998. The country is made up of 80% poor, 15% middle class, and 5% rich class. Everyone is struggling to put food on the table and have a roof over their heads. Purchasing a huge boarding house to feed, house, and clothe numerous slave babies for some unknown purpose is puzzling.

As far as reselling slave babies, there's no market for it. With 80% of the population being poor there's no market for it.
sure.. if you look for difficulty all do have example mc operate Factory.. :KEK:
 

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Probably the #1 reason why slave breeding isn't a part of the game is the following. Slaves have no social status. They are viewed as property. It isn't socially acceptable to have babies with slaves. If anyone found out that you were intentionally having babies with slaves it would ruin your reputation. No one would take you seriously anymore, including criminals. Other criminals would be constantly trying to steal your whores and slaves away from you due to viewing you as a weak fool. It would quickly lead to a Game Over!

"Well, what if I don't care about any of that! The slave is my property and I can do whatever I want!" Partially true but you can't control other people. You'd quickly become the talk of the town and a laughing stock. Criminals would see this as weakness and take advantage of you, lots of them, all the time. You'd end up losing everything you worked for. You couldn't keep this a secret for long. You'd be debased to that of a common slave.
 

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Need help here, I just can't get the farm hazing event to trigger..
So far, my relationship is 100 with police, mutaba is dead, I have 14 whores, 14 slaves, 5 girls in the farm, bought all the weapons multiple times, visited the cop daily for a month, nothing is being triggered, please help!

I still haven't bought the mansion if it is relevant though

UPDATE: Bought the mansion, event was triggered instantly. You need to buy the mansion for the farm hazing event apparently
 
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Probably the #1 reason why slave breeding isn't a part of the game is the following. Slaves have no social status. They are viewed as property. It isn't socially acceptable to have babies with slaves. If anyone found out that you were intentionally having babies with slaves it would ruin your reputation. No one would take you seriously anymore, including criminals. Other criminals would be constantly trying to steal your whores and slaves away from you due to viewing you as a weak fool. It would quickly lead to a Game Over!

"Well, what if I don't care about any of that! The slave is my property and I can do whatever I want!" Partially true but you can't control other people. You'd quickly become the talk of the town and a laughing stock. Criminals would see this as weakness and take advantage of you, lots of them, all the time. You'd end up losing everything you worked for. You couldn't keep this a secret for long. You'd be debased to that of a common slave.
These explanations you all seem to come up with constantly on this issue are kinda weak to be honest. And as such, they give a perception that you just don't want to add this for your own personal reasons. I don't think I've ever run into any dev/s trying to justify not having something in game this much before. Well, you do you, I guess :).

Personally, I'd prefer leaving stuff like this to the player to decide. You know... in case they are okay with not only breeding with junkies, college teenagers etc. but their slaves too. Shocking, I know... who would ever. I mean, muh reputation among other degenerates!

Meh... well, I do like the game regardless of this being a feature or not.
 
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Norker

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So I tried a university start and went with programming and getting chummy with my classmates.
Now the option to ask males to join my gang seems to have disappeared (I have 0 gang members and 0 whores, but even with whores I do not have the option to ask to join). The guys had the option but now do not. They are Best Friend as well.

So how can I get gang members?
 

Incarnis

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Arguments against choice of 'how' to play when simple switches could be implemented to allow many of these suggestions with the addition of in most cases two words and '=' and a number are kind of ridiculous, it is 100% a fantasy game world so that argument is beyond silly because a world like this could not exist at all, grounded in reality isn't a point of argument.

Anyhow it's clear how adamantly against feminization the collective are, but I implemented a flavor text feminization system myself in less than 20 minutes cause it's how I want to be able to play. Got to have relation above 150, then you can drug the men, and when their fem is over 500 you can give them gender surgery at the medical center, no additional art necessary.
 
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LeakAngel

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Hey,

I'm struggling with training men in my gang to become gunmen. I gave some of them all 4 weapons and paid for shooting lessons, they're at "competent as a sniper" but I can't assign them as gunman in robberies. I checked the thread and I found they couldn't have some jobs like prosecutor but none of them have these jobs. Some are students or are married, I think it might be the issue, can someone confirm?
And is there a way to make them not married or student with a cheat if it's the case?

Edited: found the cause of this, I had a gunman "always assigned" but he died so I couldn't assign a new one. I removed all assigned men to robberies and could assign a gunman again. Once he had a kill, I could assign him as hitman, just as it should work so everything's good!

Additional question, I got some whores who were cured of drug addiction or even who were convinced whores (never were junkies before) who became addicted and are now "whoring for drugs".
It's a pain in the ass because I can't withhold drugs to cure them and the cheat doesn't work on them... Is it a bug or is it intended that some girls can become junkies? If it's the case, I'll have to get rid of them :')
 
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Incarnis

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Additional question, I got some whores who were cured of drug addiction or even who were convinced whores (never were junkies before) who became addicted and are now "whoring for drugs".
It's a pain in the ass because I can't withhold drugs to cure them and the cheat doesn't work on them... Is it a bug or is it intended that some girls can become junkies? If it's the case, I'll have to get rid of them :')
From what I can tell, the only way to avoid the chance of girls becoming addicted is to ONLY use slaves for the street, use convinced girls for camgirls.
 
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noobtrain

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So I tried a university start and went with programming and getting chummy with my classmates.
Now the option to ask males to join my gang seems to have disappeared (I have 0 gang members and 0 whores, but even with whores I do not have the option to ask to join). The guys had the option but now do not. They are Best Friend as well.

So how can I get gang members?
Good relationship
They can't be rich/high society
They can't have a high paying job or have a university degree
You have to own most of the firearms
You have to have 5,000 caps or more
Male

If you're still having trouble post your save game and I'll take a look.
 
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Additional question, I got some whores who were cured of drug addiction or even who were convinced whores (never were junkies before) who became addicted and are now "whoring for drugs".
It's a pain in the ass because I can't withhold drugs to cure them and the cheat doesn't work on them... Is it a bug or is it intended that some girls can become junkies? If it's the case, I'll have to get rid of them :')
Looks like a flaw/bug in the game that needs to be addressed at some point. For now, use this command in the 'spectre1viper command injector' with the NPC on the screen:

narkot[npc]=0

If she's a whore and you just used the above command, you can additionally use this:

youslut[npc]=3

Or combine the commands into one:

narkot[npc]=0 & youslut[npc]=3

Don't use this on slaves.
 
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