voerman

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For clothing colors I would enjoy a system that allowed you to color your clothes, but you would need to own an item with that color to unlock it for the coloring menu.
Like a merchant who makes dyes but has to be shown the color because he doesn't understand the player's language.
 
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Dahakma

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I'm playing with the soft cheat-mode on since it displays the character stats so much more cleanly (and accurately). However just stumbled into this screen. I was really confused for a while, because I understood the # means those options are only available through cheating. Was I mistaken about that?
Those are just displayed notes of what Meeting X actually means. (I'm still not sure whether it is better to keep it generic and surprise the player; or give an exact immersion-breaking description providing full control)

There's as well a couple minor bugs I noticed;
Thanks for the report (y)

Saving after a choice that increases (or decreases?) a character stat, and then reloading that save - will double the stat change.
That will be annoying to fix considering a few bad design decisions. I wonder if I'm going to fix the saving or the loading end. Or in the middle.

The "Wearing sexy legwear" task takes you to a shopping menu for buying them the day before - however that doesn't happen for the "Wear Sexy Panties" task - so seems like Katarina is automatically forced to fail it. There wasn't even the usual "go shopping" option in the afternoon available for some reason.
IIRC sexy panties check is pretty permissive and Katarína should already own several, but I definitely could add the shop.

Also the "go to more secluded place" option for revealing her panties doesn't seem to work - or has some specific conditions?
IIRC it is a fake choice where both options trigger the same scene.

Finally, I was curious about how the sluttiness limits work in-game. For example what's the numerical value for "low slut"?
It is always different.

Or how high does it need to be for Katarina to be able to leave home without panties and other similar tasks? I was trying a high submissive/low sluttiness playthrough - and the fact that she automatically has to disobey some orders if she's not slutty enough (and will only got caught the first time, and otherwise could flaunt them without any repercussions)...really broke the immersion for me.
Which tasks? Generally being able to fulfill tasks should have precedence over her stats. (Handling repercussions is annoying, on one hand I want to give the player the freedom, on the other hand then I had to figure out checks and punishments which are not serious enough for Kate to quit or force the player to follow the rule anyway). I agree high submissive/low sluttiness route is atm suboptimal.
 
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I appreciate the detailed reply (y)

Those are just displayed notes of what Meeting X actually means. (I'm still not sure whether it is better to keep it generic and surprise the player; or give an exact immersion-breaking description providing full control)
Ok, good to know. I'd vote for a little mystery. However the reason for my confusion was that I'm pretty sure both these notes, as well as the choice to pick options that aren't available without cheating (like the "choose tasks" in the beginning of the game) are both denoted by a single #. So perhaps distinguish between them with a different symbol? Just a thought.

IIRC sexy panties check is pretty permissive and Katarína should already own several, but I definitely could add the shop.
My random allocation was only hipster panties/boyshorts/briefs - no thongs. And it's logical imho that a normal, somewhat shy girl wouldn't own them. Unless you mean that players should already have some from the shop...which I agree, it's a real struggle to play full immersion and not buy too slutty clothes before she gets blackmailed to wear them ;)

Which tasks? Generally being able to fulfill tasks should have precedence over her stats. (Handling repercussions is annoying, on one hand I want to give the player the freedom, on the other hand then I had to figure out checks and punishments which are not serious enough for Kate to quit or force the player to follow the rule anyway). I agree high submissive/low sluttiness route is atm suboptimal.
Actually probably all your tasks are well designed. I'm still playing through the 2nd week so far. Just the aforementioned lack of ability to obey the sexy panties task, and then the system saying she's too innocent to go out without panties - got me curious about how those checks work and whether the "innocent submissive" playstyle was actually viable. Especially in terms of whether any future wardrobe checks ("you can't leave the house in these clothes") would derail it.
 

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both these notes, as well as the choice to pick options that aren't available without cheating (like the "choose tasks" in the beginning of the game) are both denoted by a single #. So perhaps distinguish between them with a different symbol?
Maybe, generally # denotes something hidden without soft cheatmode.

My random allocation was only hipster panties/boyshorts/briefs - no thongs.
Oh, I thought hipster panties are counted as sexy panties but it seems I misremembered that.

I agree, it's a real struggle to play full immersion and not buy too slutty clothes before she gets blackmailed to wear them
It is a struggle to give players freedom but keep them from playing the wrong way (e.g. some sluttier clothes are locked if the sluttiness isn't high enough).

got me curious about how those checks work and whether the "innocent submissive" playstyle was actually viable
It is supposed to be viable (even though during the playtesting it isn't working perfectly, probably because I am often unsure whether the choice is rather submissive or slutty and the difference gets blurred a little)

Especially in terms of whether any future wardrobe checks ("you can't leave the house in these clothes") would derail it.
No, this particular issue is anticipated, following rules should be always possible.
 
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for some reason there no more option to play the RPG game. after getting the scepter and did all the "chapter" stuff i exited right b4 talking to a wizard dude and after that the option to play it gone never to be seen again.
 
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subli

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Fun game! I feel like there wasn't enough good stuff to buy in the game though, I didn't feel any great need to do stuff like stripping or whoring, I wish those options were more tempting.
 
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To each their own. I absolutely loathe games which enforce prostitution as optimal (and often only) option onto the player. There is no challenge (even if the challenge value is quite relative in the eroge genre) and therefore no fun to be had (to me).

I thought this game had some nice choices & consequences going, so I hope it'll keep it that way, but again it's my personal opinion. I don't mind extra features such as prostitution/bimboification as long as they remain optional.
 
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I don't think they should be mandatory by any means. The perfect balance to me would be one where the player can, if they want, imagine that the character feels pressured to perform these acts, but the player themselves never feels pressured to choose that path. However I'm not sure if such a balance is possible.
 

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So, how am I supposed to attack anything? I click attack with knife, and it skips my turn. I click on the enemy health bar, and it skips my turns. I've been having to press the auto win button every fight, as otherwise I can't win because everything else I do skips my turn.
 

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Hey Dahakma , I still had a couple observations for 0.927 :)


⦁ If my memory serves correctly, earlier there was a task for "sexy legwear 2", for wearing heels. However I haven't encountered that in the latest version, and actually erroneously get a repeat of the original "sexy legwear" task.

⦁ Perhaps consider writing a more detailed groping scene for the inspection portion of the "shave pubic hair" task? At that point Katarina actually getting groped at school seems like a major escalation, but the scene treats it like just 'another Tuesday' in her life.

⦁ I'm a bit confused about the line separating events happening in Katarina's real life versus which of them take place in the virtual 'subverse'. E.g. the second weekend task (maid servant) seems to me, like it would actually happen irl (making pizza etc.) - but the avatar in use is her virtual modified version. Also related, maybe it's just me, but the blackmail events that actually happen in Katarina's real life just hit harder

⦁ Additionally I noticed that if Katarina doesn't strip the maid headgear for the event, then she seems to be stuck with it on her head ;) Apparently anything that she strips gets lost, including any panties - and conversely everything that she doesn't strip off, she'll take home with her. It's cool actually if she takes a maid apron with her back home. Perhaps we will get a future scene where she needs it...


Finally I'm pretty curious about some things. For example do Katarina's actions determine what tasks she gets? Like whether her wearing any piercings (earrings, navel) affects getting the piercing task. As a sidenote, I hope there's more lewd 'piercing 2/3?' tasks in the making. She has a lot of free, sexy real estate left (tongue, belly button, nipple, labia...)

Also it's interesting what sorts of effects do grades and status have in terms of events being activated in the long run. Perhaps there's lots of potential coerced 'extra credit' and being bullied/treated like a school slut in Katarina's future? Likewise it's curious what sort of repercussions there might be later on for either rejecting Juraj or teaching Vendy how to make herself look hot. A lot can be figured out just by playing, but now that I'm at the end of the content and eagerly waiting for more...

Anyways if it's not obvious, I really enjoy all the varied scenes in the game - the writing especially is top notch!
 
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So, how am I supposed to attack anything? I click attack with knife, and it skips my turn. I click on the enemy health bar, and it skips my turns. I've been having to press the auto win button every fight, as otherwise I can't win because everything else I do skips my turn.
so when you select the knife to attack, you are actually deselecting and telling her to skip turn. If you are a melee class just click the enemy you want to hit and you'll attack. if you have other abilities to use, click them first, then the enemy
 

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Out of curiousity, is it possible to feminize any of the trio? zdemo rightfully got his clock cleaned with a right hook but immediately continued the whole attitude thing afterwards, which was a bit strange. The gentler of crew seems to have the inclination but I didn't see any way to progress that idea.

Was rather hoping Kat could seduce Sasha, or become a mentor to the former wallflower, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards just yet either.

Fun game though. Thouroughly enjoying the range of options and playstyles presented.
 
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asdkfj;lk

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So i tried the console edit stuff but the stats never seem to change im doing it like PC.money = 10000 and PC.att.str = 50 but it doesnt seem to work for me
 

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I don't think I've tried this game before and man I've been missing out, it's great! I'm really enjoying the quality of the writing and that your choices really do feel like they shape how the game progresses. In my first play through I really liked how she is able to turn the tables on one of the nerds and go all domme on him :) (i won't say anymore for fear of spoilers) Does anyone know if you can do that to all three of them? as if that is the case I missed the oppurtinity on this play through. Either way I think this is a game that has lots of great content that will make me want to explore lots of paths.
 
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Dahakma

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I didn't feel any great need to do stuff like stripping or whoring, I wish those options were more tempting.
To each their own. I absolutely loathe games which enforce prostitution as optimal (and often only) option onto the player.
I guess I could try to make them more tempting, however, stripping and whoring are not supposed to be major parts of the game.

The perfect balance to me would be one where the player can, if they want, imagine that the character feels pressured to perform these acts, but the player themselves never feels pressured to choose that path. However I'm not sure if such a balance is possible.
I'm trying to leave ambiguous how much she feels to be forced.


task for "sexy legwear 2", for wearing heels
Not currently present, there were some issues with shoes assets, but will be back in future.

Perhaps consider writing a more detailed groping scene for the inspection portion of the "shave pubic hair" task? At that point Katarina actually getting groped at school seems like a major escalation, but the scene treats it like just 'another Tuesday' in her life.
Yeah, that's a good suggestion, that scene is a bit underdeveloped.

I'm a bit confused about the line separating events happening in Katarina's real life versus which of them take place in the virtual 'subverse'. E.g. the second weekend task (maid servant) seems to me, like it would actually happen irl (making pizza etc.) - but the avatar in use is her virtual modified version.
The event takes place irl but it was seriously bugged and the setting wasn't switched properly.

Finally I'm pretty curious about some things. For example do Katarina's actions determine what tasks she gets? Like whether her wearing any piercings (earrings, navel) affects getting the piercing task. As a sidenote, I hope there's more lewd 'piercing 2/3?' tasks in the making. She has a lot of free, sexy real estate left (tongue, belly button, nipple, labia...)
Generally no but sometimes yes, the probability of piercings 2 (currently in Patreon version) is based on the number of worn piercings.

Also it's interesting what sorts of effects do grades and status have in terms of events being activated in the long run.
I kinda not yet completely figured out what to do with grades and status.

Likewise it's curious what sort of repercussions there might be later on for either rejecting Juraj or teaching Vendy how to make herself look hot. A lot can be figured out just by playing, but now that I'm at the end of the content and eagerly waiting for more...
Some effects of rejecting Juraj should be felt immediately, Vendy isn't particularly grateful even if you help her.

Out of curiousity, is it possible to feminize any of the trio?
At the moment no.

zdemo rightfully got his clock cleaned with a right hook but immediately continued the whole attitude thing afterwards, which was a bit strange.
The order of events is pretty loose and it can easily happen that a scene originally intended for first or second week happens during third or fourth week when the situation with nerds is different.

So i tried the console edit stuff but the stats never seem to change im doing it like PC.money = 10000 and PC.att.str = 50 but it doesnt seem to work for me
for some reason it is now "ext.money" and "PC.base.str" (money wasn't related to PC object & PC.att are now final numbers with all bonuses and effects)

Does anyone know if you can do that to all three of them?
ATM you could be very dominant to one and kinda dominant to another.



Thank you for all the feedback, I am very happy you enjoy the game!
 

subli

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If we zoom out a little from focusing on stripping/whoring, right now money doesn't feel very valuable because there's not that much stuff that you want to spend money on. In any game with resources the player should have an at least fairly strong desire for more of that resource, you don't want the player to not care about what's happening in the game after all.
 

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Some effects of rejecting Juraj should be felt immediately, Vendy isn't particularly grateful even if you help her.
Yeah Juraj becomes really standoffish and Katarina starts to antagonize him. I hope that leads to Juraj getting more cruel and arranging to get her into all kinds of trouble in the future - and/or him plotting to get so much leverage over her, that Katarina simply can't deny him anymore. Currently rejecting Juraj feels like a let down since you lose his content, without replacement scenes. I'm sure that'll change in the future.


I'd expect a 'hot Vendy' would lead to a lot more degrading choices that Katarina needs to take, if she wants win the election :devilish:
 
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For some reason your newest version (the 0.9something) works on chrome but not on brave, but old version work on brave just fine...
 
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nottuide

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sorry if I bother you, but I enjoyed so much this game and... I was asking.. considering that the new version is already out, is there any hero?
 
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