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guys I can't to for the new update (in 2023) because that means I have more to grind 
Nice one!!!guys I can't to for the new update (in 2023) because that means I have more to grind![]()
i pointed out that you exxagerated claim about best rigs would not be able to hand this game if open world wich is a scretch and debatable. I know what game streaming is. Might be easier since on cloud. I doubt this game gonna be a big open world at first, think gonna start by having a little hub, 1 can compare with is Black Dessert town and DBFZ. Player in hub probably 5-12. The game is graphic intentsive agreed on that but i think you can run this game with average graphic card if you lower settings. Having RTX 2000 series or 3000 series would be best i belive. i do think aswell having Harem mode is bit dumb and crazy considering the game has little content as it is on gallery mode. Think would be great if he released content on gallery as update each month instead of having it as preview for full game wich has been for wait for a long time.Go look up how videogame streaming works then come back and look at what you said here
if Illusion made a game with more insects, tentacles and better graphics I'd basicaly forget about OL lmao
The main problem is, theres no actual real progress aside "beta" and those designs and ideas they keep popping out when the game isnt even out nor show that it totally playable. Also the part that really have red flag alarm sounding around it is the currency or battlepass. This sort of things you usually already planned long ago and not like "Oh yeah we gonna add battlepass and premium currency". Also calling this... thing a game? Its simulator, not a "game". Heck it isnt a simulator since you not the one that controlling it. Examples of bad funding that have similar attributes that I can think of that related to FD are Elyria and Cyberpunk. Good money flow that ended up with non-exist game or shiet ass game.By giving few bucks to a guy wich many others want to see succeed? Are you envious, you poor mofo. Like stfu little bish. No one likes you. Act normal and people might lol.
I agree with you and people mentioning it bro. Lack of transperency and reward is bad. Btw think you should quote another reply of mine lol. The game is barely a game yeah, its a simulator with some clicks its still a game but very little gameplay yep. There is people who donates 100s of bucks for project like this. Its a sour taste indeed knowing you lack content for a game wich been up for years. We want content. Like people invest in what they love and believe in. Sometimes it goes great and sometimes bad. Dont invest what can hurt you. Also money makes the world go forward. Like its kinda dumb insulting supporters, not you mate but others. The game, several game, projects would not be continued if it wasnt for supporters. Like tons of people are supporters maybe you to. im supporter for his but its minor. Just few bucks can make a different. If there is many who support, it can turn a game, content creator or show from dying to something wich great. Eitherway i think insulting creators is kinda waste of time, people should contact patreon or something. Creators also have a life, problems and plans.The main problem is, theres no actual real progress aside "beta" and those designs and ideas they keep popping out when the game isnt even out nor show that it totally playable. Also the part that really have red flag alarm sounding around it is the currency or battlepass. This sort of things you usually already planned long ago and not like "Oh yeah we gonna add battlepass and premium currency". Also calling this... thing a game? Its simulator, not a "game". Heck it isnt a simulator since you not the one that controlling it. Examples of bad funding that have similar attributes that I can think of that related to FD are Elyria and Cyberpunk. Good money flow that ended up with non-exist game or shiet ass game.
Do you still have hope? pathetic but don't say I didn't warn youI agree with you and people mentioning it bro. Lack of transperency and reward is bad. Btw think you should quote another reply of mine lol. The game is barely a game yeah, its a simulator with some clicks its still a game but very little gameplay yep. There is people who donates 100s of bucks for project like this. Its a sour taste indeed knowing you lack content for a game wich been up for years. We want content. Like people invest in what they love and believe in. Sometimes it goes great and sometimes bad. Dont invest what can hurt you. Also money makes the world go forward. Like its kinda dumb insulting supporters, not you mate but others. The game, several game, projects would not be continued if it wasnt for supporters. Like tons of people are supporters maybe you to. im supporter for his but its minor. Just few bucks can make a different. If there is many who support, it can turn a game, content creator or show from dying to something wich great. Eitherway i think insulting creators is kinda waste of time, people should contact patreon or something. Creators also have a life, problems and plans.
I do agree with you that if the game becomes shit then its very bad, and honestly unethical. Helius have alot of promises, maybe he has a big team , and maybe why he is so confident. The game is already looking good so i dont think most doubt him about animation. Art and animation looking great, concern is the content and gameplay. I think content is something minor to fix. Steam say full game be released by end of 2022 we just have to wait til then if the game becomes shit or great. Hopefully a game most of ous can be happy about.
Wtf you saying dude?? Talk normal or i just block you. Everything you saying is stupid. I just knew about the guy last year. Did you pledge for him for years or something? Like thats you two business. Dont cry to me and others about it. Why you even on this thread dude, like put energy on something else lol.Do you still have hope? pathetic but don't say I didn't warn you
The game gonna be trashWtf you saying dude?? Talk normal or i just block you. Everything you saying is stupid. I just knew about the guy last year. Did you pledge for him for years or something? Like thats you two business. Dont cry to me and others about it. Why you even on this thread dude, like put energy on something else lol.
Guess im just lucky that he gonna release full game end of 2022. Wether he will or not, know one knows. Time will tell.
Why? Aswell why use your time on this thread?The game gonna be trash
how do you even use these tho? do they just replace the normal human in scenes?I have some, not my work. I don't have the game currently installed so i can't make sure if they work or not.
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I can't wait for that battle pass update to add more "gameplay"I agree with you and people mentioning it bro. Lack of transperency and reward is bad. Btw think you should quote another reply of mine lol. The game is barely a game yeah, its a simulator with some clicks its still a game but very little gameplay yep. There is people who donates 100s of bucks for project like this. Its a sour taste indeed knowing you lack content for a game wich been up for years. We want content. Like people invest in what they love and believe in. Sometimes it goes great and sometimes bad. Dont invest what can hurt you. Also money makes the world go forward. Like its kinda dumb insulting supporters, not you mate but others. The game, several game, projects would not be continued if it wasnt for supporters. Like tons of people are supporters maybe you to. im supporter for his but its minor. Just few bucks can make a different. If there is many who support, it can turn a game, content creator or show from dying to something wich great. Eitherway i think insulting creators is kinda waste of time, people should contact patreon or something. Creators also have a life, problems and plans.
I do agree with you that if the game becomes shit then its very bad, and honestly unethical. Helius have alot of promises, maybe he has a big team , and maybe why he is so confident. The game is already looking good so i dont think most doubt him about animation. Art and animation looking great, concern is the content and gameplay. I think content is something minor to fix. Steam say full game be released by end of 2022 we just have to wait til then if the game becomes shit or great. Hopefully a game most of ous can be happy about.
because you have to grind for the sex scenesWhy? Aswell why use your time on this thread?
Yes, you can select them to be your player model. You can also use them in Studio Neo to make more complex scenes.how do you even use these tho? do they just replace the normal human in scenes?
I'm not sure which part of this you are finding hard to understand, the game has been ~1 year away from release for nearly a decade. You think it will be released in 2022 because you only joined in the last year and this is probably the first date you've heard. The rest of us know better.Guess im just lucky that he gonna release full game end of 2022. Wether he will or not, know one knows. Time will tell.
On Patreon it stated it been in work since 2016 wich is 6 years not a decade. Like i do get you point, that its smart of him to milk because if he release full game his revenue might drop. I blame Patreon aswell, but like many want the game to reach its potential. Lets be real tho many games specifically triple AAA games takes years or decade to release their game. Why cant this game? Especially when its several years ahead on graphics compared to adult games. Like sure milking is bad, but like its not like the creator is asking for your life earnings. Its like 30 bucks wich is little, many games cost like 50-70 usd. Wich date has Helius mentioned beside 2021-2022? Also what you mean by "rest of us know better" ? What do you and others know that we supporters dont know? Like many of here which iw seen are saying vague insulting comments to creator. Like you and hardcorecuddler seem to be atleast somewhat reasonable. Others just sound entitled to a game wich they might not even have supported. Like even come to discord randomly to insult. Have you played curent Gallery or Harem? Many said Harem is great. I feel like we said mostly what we wanted to say or you want to say something you missed or important. Think gonna end it or else seems we going in circle. Obviously its hostility towards Helius. Unfortunate event. Like i said just arrived, unfortunate if people feel milked. May karma come around. If he is decent person he release decent game with content he previewed if not maybe he get a lawsuit on him. Just wish they were more positive comments here, its kinda sad. Played many games with many nice people partaking in disccusing or answering comments in threads. Also its ironic the game has so many good reviews. Good game, lack content but many sour comments. Its kinda sad situation. Hopefully the game or another game meet people expecation. Think we all just wanna have a great game.I'm not sure which part of this you are finding hard to understand, the game has been ~1 year away from release for nearly a decade. You think it will be released in 2022 because you only joined in the last year and this is probably the first date you've heard. The rest of us know better.
When you're a decade into a project your primary output should not be concept art. I would suggest going back and looking at the earliestYou must be registered to see the linksto compare to what you're seeing now and see if you can work out what work has been done in the intervening time to justify the delay.
This is a pretty common business model these days and it's exacerbated by the ease with which you can chuck together relatively functional tech demos with engines like UE4/5 in basically no time at all. Get a few skilled 3D artists on contract, one or two devs to get the bare minimum working and spin some wild tales involving massive publisher collabs, staff being poached, unruly investors forcing you to do [the bad thing] etc. and you can milk Patreon ad nauseam.
Once you've got this going there's a massive financial incentive to not actually finish the game/product because it will kill your consistent monthly revenue. To be honest I'm more inclined to blame Patreon for encouraging a subscription based model for in-progress development work than the actual devs for being corrupted by it.
Thanks for documenting this event wich seems to be fishy or manipulative behaviour atleast from first pics. Guess you did it all by yourself. Also no i dont think i have more importance just because of event. Thats bit of a scretch. People can critize what and how much they want. Wether if its waste of time or not. No one likes to feel being wronged or betrayed, but like try atleast try not to be toxic especially if random guy like me for example is curious of a situation, and being respectable. Atleast be respectable to people. I mostly had problem with Gabriel. Like few people mentioned thread was becomming sad wich is unfortunate. Its nice to be have some clarifications from people, so thanks. And yes seems few people are schadenfreude (interesting cool word) or people just being pessimistic, or just numb. I rather not be that or partake in that. Good vibes for the win, bing chilling.Since we have some newer patrons coming in confused about the hate, I’ll write a quick summary of the more recent drama so everyone can more or less be on the same page. To start off, lets go all the way back to 2017 since that’s probably earlier than a lot of people here have been on. Helius Started his project by appealing to the sort of old school person who likes to pirate before you buy it and hates microtransactions (mtx) /gacha.
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And the mods were happy to continue talking down mtx even up to the release of the beta in late November.
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Even outright lying that the game wasn’t free to play gacha days before it released as free to play gacha.
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This would be a bad look on it's own, without the solid base of people against this. So what happens when you cultivate a fanbase on the idea of no mtx/gacha only to release a free to play gacha? Well, you get the drama that happened in November/December. A lot of angry core supporters feeling scammed. It doesn’t help that the mods were kinda dicks around this time.
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Not to mention, as you can see, deleting posts that were critical of the game. This is why there’s a large split between the discord and forums they don’t control, since of course banning anyone for dissent will cause them to go fester elsewhere, with their concerns remaining unaddressed and making the feeling of being scammed that much stronger. Also if you wanted to collect on that refund good luck, they’d just close your support ticket or talk shit to you more. Hard not to have that feel like a scam, even if this refund request was never authentic basically taunting people with their money being gone is a douche move.
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To try and answer Karb’s question late, the people then were speaking for about 1/3 or more of the supporters, probably more as long time supporters are replaced with new steam supporters.
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Also this drop isn’t because of the hiatus, they actually grew supporters during the first hiatus before they screwed over their old supporters.
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They did eventually release an apology for this, months after when it was clear they were losing money over it. Kinda falls flat at that point, and most people who would’ve liked to see it were already banned.
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They were just also shady in general about giving out news, like saying you’ll never be able to buy currency before announcing the conversion rate to buy currency a week later.
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It really kills their credibility to see stuff like that. And before someone says patreon donations don’t count as purchases, that’s a really flimsy loophole to try and exploit and few people outside the discord will agree with you, a conversion rate is pretty damning for able to buy. Also Helius himself would disagree with you as he considers patreon a purchase.
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There’s also debate about stuff being censored, Galatea is the prime example of that. I won’t go into as much detail on that. Just know Helius is pretty tight lipped on it, often deleting his own posts on the matter. It’s again another reason people feel he’s stringing them along.
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All of this just scratches the surface really, I'd suggest reading back in the thread for more if you really want it.
Just in general to avoid people being argumentative the thing to keep in mind is there’s a lot of long time supporters here who get a sense of schadenfreude watching parts of the project fall apart. It’s something they enjoy, and the amount of money down the drain means they're invested in this whatever happens. You can’t expect to come to an established community and have them stop talking about something just because you weren’t there for it and don’t understand or find it relevant to you at this point. It looks childish and overly self important.
There's a game? What's the gameplay like? I thought the version in the op was the latest one. Did they finally added gameplay?On Patreon it stated it been in work since 2016 wich is 6 years not a decade. Like i do get you point, that its smart of him to milk because if he release full game his revenue might drop. I blame Patreon aswell, but like many want the game to reach its potential. Lets be real tho many games specifically triple AAA games takes years or decade to release their game. Why cant this game? Especially when its several years ahead on graphics compared to adult games. Like sure milking is bad, but like its not like the creator is asking for your life earnings. Its like 30 bucks wich is little, many games cost like 50-70 usd. Wich date has Helius mentioned beside 2021-2022? Also what you mean by "rest of us know better" ? What do you and others know that we supporters dont know? Like many of here which iw seen are saying vague insulting comments to creator. Like you and hardcorecuddler seem to be atleast somewhat reasonable. Others just sound entitled to a game wich they might not even have supported. Like even come to discord randomly to insult. Have you played curent Gallery or Harem? Many said Harem is great. I feel like we said mostly what we wanted to say or you want to say something you missed or important. Think gonna end it or else seems we going in circle. Obviously its hostility towards Helius. Unfortunate event. Like i said just arrived, unfortunate if people feel milked. May karma come around. If he is decent person he release decent game with content he previewed if not maybe he get a lawsuit on him. Just wish they were more positive comments here, its kinda sad. Played many games with many nice people partaking in disccusing or answering comments in threads. Also its ironic the game has so many good reviews. Good game, lack content but many sour comments. Its kinda sad situation. Hopefully the game or another game meet people expecation. Think we all just wanna have a great game.
There is few new things, but spesifcaly the harem game mode is released, think it was june. Gonna try it. If you have pledged on patreon, think it was 27-35 usd you can play harem mode i belive. Im gonna play it soon. You can walk in harem mode ect, some screen shots of the game is on steam bro.There's a game? What's the gameplay like? I thought the version in the op was the latest one. Did they finally added gameplay?