Unreal Engine Fallen Doll: Operation Lovecraft [v0.4.9 Cracked] [Project Helius]
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No optimization, actually. This question was raised when it first went into beta. Helius was trying to get it out and hadn't had time for even the most basic optimization. This isn't a huge deal since its beta, or really alpha at the time, but many players don't really understand the concept of alpha or beta and expect a finished polished product. Thus poor optimization isn't correct, technically. Rebuild may fix this, or at least that is the goal but we don't know much about it or how it will scale across different hardware.
- Sep 9, 2018
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Im here do get it that alpha or beta wont be finished or polished product, however theres no update that suggest other gameplay like those battle stuff they talked about. Where is it? Wheres the all the stuff aside gallery viewer related for people to test or try out?
My comment was in reference to complaints, both when beta first launched and posts in this thread complaining about it not being flawless like performance. As for the other "stuff" which stuff are you referring to? Is it possibly content like erotes and such we're still waiting on but hasn't dropped into the game because of the massive pause on content updates for rebuild rather than adding it in parallel or is it something you've seen/heard is supposed to be in the game now that we can point you to if you can't find it?
- Sep 9, 2018
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IIRC theres card battle style right? Did they add that yet? And no, I dont want pictures of those stuff from the devs themselves, I want actual pictures from people that actually try it out. Doesnt matter if its the card style battle or first person shooter or whatever stuff. Do pardon though that I cant remember what "stuff" anymore due to tons of concepts they dished out, probably give me a few hints to remind me what is what.
- Feb 26, 2019
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The only thing in the game atm is Harem and Gallery. Basically, what you see in the version you can download from this site is what's currently available in the legitimate version.
This game doesn't even have characters it just has good models.
There's literally no story to get invested in.
- Sep 21, 2018
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I think I got it. Now I have no clue how to open the files. I was thinking of porting them over to blender. Any tips?
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There is no news on any actual gameplay systems.
"Combat mode" was meant to be in phase 2 but they've said nothing, campaign/story mode was dropped back when the game was origins, said they'd spin it off into a separate thing then recently said they'd stop working on it entirely (presuming they ever started, and no one wanted a spun off SFW version anyway). Management sim elements had a few ux mockups shared in ~2017
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but obviously nothing there either. VR has also been pushed back supposedly to 2023 when they switch to UE5 for some reason or another.Just for some real shits and giggles here's a Chinese language post
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... before Patreon even existed:Maybe they'll release something that equates to more than an animation viewer eventually, but I personally wouldn't bet on it.
This game is so disappointing. So much potential and the developers just seem to want to drag it out to make a quick buck.
If you mean the campaign stuff then no. Its a bit confusing because they said it was cancelled, put on hold, then posted campaign screenshot the other day in discord. Honestly, I have no idea what is going on with the campaign at this point. It should happen at some point at least, from what I understand but they're focusing on mainly the porn part of the game at the moment though it now seems like they might be working on the other stuff in parallel to some degree. A bit confusing
You man the game in alpha/beta right? The game that has character backgrounds but is clearly no where near ready right? The game that had campaign delayed you mean? I was mostly talking about the models and basic bio/dispositions, though, kind of like with Dead or Alive.
Exhibit A of person not understanding what a alpha/beta is. Meanwhile, probably doesn't realize games typically take 4-10 years to develop even for AAA studios.
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The game being in beta has nothing to do with the direction it took. The game being in beta isn't an excuse for Helius to have such poor communication skills. The game being in beta isn't an excuse to cut off single-player and solo modes in attempt to stop cracked versions of the game popping up despite all the feedback of actual supporters being against it, like seriously, have you read the messages in Discord/Steam Forums? It's not surprising that people that have been keeping an eye on this game are disappointed and/or see it as Helius just trying to make a quick buck at this point, especially when he has said things in the past like being interested in making mobile versions of the game, going live-service, and the gacha-esque mechanics the game already has going. There's also the fact that Helius is making all these changes without so much as giving a quick heads up in official messages for supporters that aren't reading messages in the Discord server 24/7, y'know, so that they can cancel their support if they disagree with the new direction the game is going.
Like I mentioned a few messages back, I had to find out the game is now online only by looking through old Discord messages within the last few months, there was no Patreon posts, no pinned posts, no announcements, just nothing by Helius stating this in an easy to find manner for older supporters to keep up to date with everything. There was nothing that suggested the game would go this direction when I originally supported, yet here we are.
It's one thing if you're fine with the way the game is proceeding, but don't make excuses for Helius, especially when you can see other devs(some even on this site) actually making an attempt to keep supporters in the loop. Speaking of which, apparently Helius has a habit of making announcements for upcoming progress reports in free public channels but locks the progress reports behind paid Patreon posts. So if you've supported the game but have since cancelled your Patreon membership, you're just out of luck and blind as far as knowing what they're actually working on, or at least that would be the case if other supporters didn't post the progress reports in public channels for others to see for free.
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When you say 10 years, you mean only star citizen right? Because I don't know or atleast remember any other game, even rdr2 took 8 years but atleast it was worth it(worth for me, for developers they were pretty much fucked with all the crunching in rockstar).
Fallen Doll 1 had its demo release in 2016. It was never completed and was rolled into this project instead. If you supported the OG Fallen Doll you literally got bamboozled. This game has almost seven years of development already.
BTW, why are you comparing a glorified porn gallery to a AAA game? Last time I checked AAA games had story and gameplay, both of which this game hasn't shown in seven years. Forget about AAA game, it can't even compare to Night of Revenge.
You are wrong, this scam (not "game") demo had been released at fall 2014, so it is more than 8 years in "development". At spring 2023 it will be 9 years, in about 4 months.
BTW, don't feed this hysterical troll, he can't understand even simple logical reasons. Just ignore him.
Just ignore him, he's just being disingenuous to try and support a rather weak point and has been doing the same thing for ages. Last time he was trying to justify lack of communication (or indeed any evidence that any major features have been worked on at all) by comparing Project Helius to AAA devs that aren't crowdsourced and who don't announce their projects until they begin marketing titles for release.
On a side note Fallen Doll existed before 2016. It launched on Patreon in 2016, which is when Patreon itself was launched. The studio was founded in 2014, launched their first tech demo (Daisy in Summer) in early 2015 and rolled that into the Fallen Doll concept the same year. So it has been worked on in some form or another for ~8 years.
Just search this thread for daisy in summer or grrr0087 (Helius' old username) and you can find all sorts on the history of this studio, including some of the wild claims they made in the early days which obviously never came to pass and look remarkably like the stuff Helius is still saying now.
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Check out Chronicles of Elyria then, you'll notice few similarities. Also in regard of years of development, I have to use Mihoyo or Hoyoverse for this. Lets try use Genshin as example where development started at 2017 and released successfully at 2020. Okay we can say it was fast due to number of people in the project, but what about PH here? Its like seeing 1/10 or 3/10 project progress for very long years. You'd expect seeing it at 7/10 or 9/10 by now even by alpha/beta state.
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We all know why they poached UC to their side.
Sadly, if they do improve anti piracy, this will be at the "not worth bothering about" side of the street.
Sadly, if they do improve anti piracy, this will be at the "not worth bothering about" side of the street.
Do you intend to actually reply to the content of my post or just take it out of context for an agenda?
Their response was about the rebuild taking time and being, effectively, pissed its not getting constant content updates, not ready in a high quality polished functional state, and so forth. They fail to grasp that the game was clearly not in a good place, technically, and required a massive overhaul delaying the progress updates similar to what we frequently see with most Patreon and Kickstarter games such as Virt-a-mate, Star Citizen, and so on. Devs got it going but it was built on a state of immature skills that grew over development and hit a bottleneck with where they can improve or take development without a major overhaul and a stronger foundation from the ground up with a rework.
Your agenda about single player and solo modes have fuck all to do with anything I said in that comment. However, since you brought up that point I will only briefly speak on it. While it would be nice to keep those solo modes there are legitimate reasons for the removal of those no matter how much you want to complain about it. Ultimately, their goal is to make money and stopping piracy and security risks helps their game. If they have to sacrifice a small subset of people, because most wont actually give two fucks about online only no matter how much you want to spin this tale, if it helps them comprehensively can you really blame them? Obviously you are trying but it is based on more selfish logic that disregards the reality of the situation.
I have no idea what you are talking about with regards to Helius making these "changes" without giving a heads up. We've known and even seen, as it is currently in the fucking beta you can play, those grind and gacha mechanics. The gacha mechanics aren't even that bad in their current implementation, with the only real issue being exp grind is needing fixed but Helius has already acknowledged it needs fixed. Hell, the gacha mechanics are far less problematic then those seen in other games like Genshin Impact or mobile games and unless you are trying to grind every single character it probably wont be much of an issue for most. Have you actually even played the beta before making these comments? Would I prefer to have everything unlocked easily or from the start? Fuck yeah I would, but I also recognize the devs want to actually make money, too. As long as their system isn't total bullshit I'll get over it. As for the online only... we've known about it since beta launched. Actually before then. You didn't look very hard.
Things change in development. For instance you complain about the nature of the game's changes and here is an explanation from Helius:
Now the part of your post I can totally get behind is Helius has shit communication. This could see major improvement. Sadly, its not going to happen until Helius makes a conscious disciplined decision to improve this or hires someone to do this part of the job for him.
I gave a range of 4-10 years. Not a range of 10 years only... If you want to see games that have taken around 10, or even more, years just Google longest game development and you can find plenty of games listed off far more than just Star Citizen. The usual range is 4-7 years, however, but its been becoming increasingly common to see 7+ such as your example of RDR2. Those are for AAA developers with hundreds to thousands of employees and contracted workers, too, unlike a very tiny indie project. Yeah, Rockstar, CD Projekt, and some others have certainly shown how mismanagement can hurt development productivity and result in some nasty manhour crunches.
How is shifting development directions a "bamboozle"? Its like complaining that a AAA dev was working with one type of game in mind but part way through realized a much more desirable game they wanted to shift direction to even if it was a different genre, especially if technological reasons prohibit or permit influencing such decisions. FD: OL isn't all that different from FD:O, anyways. If anything, it is mostly just an improvement of the original aside from character customization has replaced with high quality but currently limited characters with supposedly 15 in the works, and more to come. If you look at their update history they were very clear and consistent all the way back from late 2016 until around beta when Helius just stopped giving a fuck about updating properly. Whether because rebuild causing frustrations or eating up too much attention or the community just wearing on Helius the project was extremely transparent at least as far back as 2016 when it was Fallen Doll: Origins.
7 Years of development isn't particularly strange for a AAA developer, much less an indie project. Look at any other porn game out there. How many completed already? How many are even remotely close to even the poorly optimized beta in terms of what they offer? How may are actually clearly superior, and even more so finished? This should put it in perspective. What we have right now is an actual totally playable beta that just requires above average hardware to run well. There is clearly a game its just frustrating because we have to wait on the rebuild before we start getting updates due to how Helius has chosen to hold off adding content until rebuild is done. However, we are seeing content being worked on and Helius has already described plans for speeding up content dropping both at rebuild launch and within the first year to compensate.
This isn't to defend Helius as I don't agree with every decision, especially regarding a lack of diverse characters at current, but spinning conspiracy theory bullshit and not placing a project within realistic expectations and expecting them to outperform AAA devs or anyone else that still hasn't as I pointed out above is just unreasonable. Calm down and wait until the rebuild launches which has an ETA of next month, or possibly if delayed January. If things go amiss then consider based on the context if you want to rant at that point.