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It was Dormitory mode that was cancelled, Dormitory was supposed to be the single-player Harem mode essentially. Gallery will remain from what I understood, though it won't be receiving any updates further, or at least that's how I interpreted what Helius said.



I saw others in the Fallen Doll Discord server discussing this and the best way I saw it put was that it doesn't make sense to remove single-player if the main issue lies with the multiplayer being a risk. If Helius could have gotten single-player up and running first, which they 100% could have, then that would have been the wiser thing to do while continuing pushing out new content and in the meantime removed multiplayer until they patched any holes barring potential risks. Instead, they removed single-player entirely and have now gone exactly 11 months with no content updates. Like I said in my previous reply, there were many different ways Helius could have approached this, but chose the worst option and fucked over some of his supporters in the process.



Let's compare Fallen Doll to Wild Life for a moment, Wild Life is the 6th top adult game earner on Patreon at 12k patrons and they're 38th across the entire site, their Patreon page started around 5 months before Project Helius' Patreon page, and Wild Life earns $115k a month - so their earnings isn't that much less than Fallen Doll's. Wild Life's F95 page is much more active than this one, being at around 850~ pages, so lets assume there are far more people pirating that game than Fallen Doll. Depsite this, you can see Steve interacting with the community there, and Steve's approach to piracy has been that he'd rather focus on making the game and putting out content that makes people want to purchase rather than waste time/resources fighting piracy. Wild Life's dev team, which is likely larger than the Fallen Doll dev team, also faces the same challenges, if not being more costly, since at the moment it seems Wild Life might end up being a bigger game than Fallen Doll. Meanwhile, Wild Life has consistently been updating, their communication is something refreshing as they're always chatting with folks in the Discord server, and one of the most important things in my opinion is that they're upfront with everyone. There are no sudden changes, there are no progress reports locked behind paywalls, none of the bullshit Helius has going on with Fallen Doll.

Helius' predicament isn't anything unique, he just chose the nuclear option at the expense of fucking over a portion of paying/paid supporters.


With that said, I personally don't think Fallen Doll is a crash grab, though I can understand why others would. I just think the Fallen Doll team makes some poor choices.



The developer of the Unity engine game about the female Barbarian can attest to this, I can't remember the name of the game but there's likely folks here that know the game I'm talking about. There's also AdeptusSteve like mentioned above with Wild Life, the Home Together developers, etc, and a bunch more. It isn't about the Dev Team/Game size from what I've seen. It usually comes down to how the developers interact with their community that determines if they pirate without supporting or actually end up supporting. I personally discovered Fallen Doll Origins first here on F95 before it was cancelled and Operation Lovecraft began development, and that's how I ended up supporting. I imagine many others share a similar story.




It was a quote*, in the quote in your last reply where Helius mentioned running a poll a long time ago he said people voted on a standalone game or a live-service game, but I couldn't find the poll he was talking about on Patreon.
Yeah you tell 'em!
(still not reading all that)
 

HardcoreCuddler

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Exhibit 999999999 of person talking shit about about another person, related to something they themselves have no goddamn clue about:
Exhibit A of person not understanding what a alpha/beta is. Meanwhile, probably doesn't realize games typically take 4-10 years to develop even for AAA studios.
Seriously why do you guys keep responding to them?
It's like responding to flat earthers
 

RoadAnarchy

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I just hope that when Hellios makes this ship sink, we can salvage something and make it playable even after he crashes/drops the servers.
My problem with the always online thing is that I don't trust him to make this viable in the long run, people in favor/defending this don't know how hard is to make a server stable and up for years. And I won't pay for temporary ownership of a game. I will never pay for a subscription to an MMO RPG for example, I like to own the games that I bought.
So yeah, I hope someone can manage to crack and upload this game online so people can enjoy this game even after some asshole pull the plug on the servers.
 
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