Its actually quite amazing how we barely got anything more since Fallen doll demo released 5-6 year ago, with monthly promise of what to come in arts and 3D render, none of which is actually shown with in game footage or materialised yet.
Thats how they've been doing it all this time and not just Discord, official channels such as Steam were heavily moderated, deleting or banning any disenting opinions but worry not, in their own words they were being lenient towards criticism.And then if you express doubt, they ban you to keep it quiet? Sounds like a scam to me.
There is a slight difference though. Visiting any game in early access' store page on steam you'll get a visual cue which can tell you immediately whether that EA game is worth buying or not thanks to reviews.To be honest there is many Early Access Steam games that operate in similar way to what Helius is doing. Maybe there is some unofficial guide " How to be shady game developer " lol. I know game on Steam that is in EA for 8 years now. Everyone who complained got banned, every steam discussion is moderated to the point that people are afraid to say anything negative. Effect ? bunch of acolytes still believing in every lie, white knighting developers like they're gods and game still holds stable playerbase.
Thats just one example but behaviour like that seems to be common trend among indie developers with oberblown projects. Out of my ass example of this shady strategy: Promise AAA quality product, divide realistic ammount of time you need to finish the game with your tiny dev team by 10 ( 20 years = 2 years ), show something exctiting again when people get unpatient, stall, threat some people with bans and pose yourself as victim " making quality games is hardwhy are you so mean to us ? " , promise more, stall again, threat with bans, show sexy screenshots... and continue untill dream is alive.
You speak of their abandoned project Fallen Doll. If you ask me..they should've kept the scope small and released the finished version of that before switching over to this game.I remember there was a version of this game at some point before the online harem update BS that was just the game with a sandbox animation viewer, any way to get that version of the game as it seems nothing has changed with the move to the harem version?
Nah I'm aware of that I mean a previous version of Lovecraft, I think it would've been like 0.34 where it was just a simple functional offline anim gallery with some customization to it. I don't really feel like bothering with downloading the cracked harem version unless its easier than it soundsYou speak of their abandoned project Fallen Doll. If you ask me..they should've kept the scope small and released the finished version of that before switching over to this game.
Anyway it can be found here:
https://f95zone.to/threads/fallen-doll-v1-31-project-helius.1330/
Nah I'm aware of that I mean a previous version of Lovecraft, I think it would've been like 0.34 where it was just a simple functional offline anim gallery with some customization to it. I don't really feel like bothering with downloading the cracked harem version unless its easier than it sounds
Ah. Searching 0.34 non-VR got me this post. Maybe it'll work for you? The MEGA link still seems to be available.Paralogue 0.34 Cracked Full
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Sweet thanks. As for the 0.49 do you know if they added any new actual animations, characters etc or is it just the furnishings for the actual game part of it?Ah. Searching 0.34 non-VR got me this post. Maybe it'll work for you? The MEGA link still seems to be available.
AFAIK the 0.49 version now comes cracked in the OP but I haven't tried running it myself to see how easy it is. Maybe someone else can comment on the specifics?
There are supposed to be a load of new animations in 0.49, but they're only accessible through the "online" mode which isn't really online with the crack. I believe it removes any grinding needed to see the animations too but don't quote me on that.Sweet thanks. As for the 0.49 do you know if they added any new actual animations, characters etc or is it just the furnishings for the actual game part of it?
This right here. If sites like Patreon had similar requirements and user-focussed features to Steam questionable projects like this would have a much shorter shelf life, simply adding reviews would be a massively positive change... for users.There is a slight difference though. Visiting any game in early access' store page on steam you'll get a visual cue which can tell you immediately whether that EA game is worth buying or not thanks to reviews.
If your product is bad you have incentive to improve it with this model.
As an added benefit transparency is enforced since people can see the update history and further determine whether or not a game is worth investing in.
Now the fallen doll devs were smart and caught onto this system, thus the game is not in EA and as you and others state devs have full control over the steam forums. They are doing all they can to keep people in the dark as long as possible so Helius and crew can keep going on holiday without delivering anything of value.
They gain subs throughout each month but they're lower now than this time last year as it drops at the end when subs expire:I think Project Helius actualy gained some patreon supporters recently. Which is sad and surprising. It seems that it doesn't matter what they say or do ( or rather not do ), people still believe in this project. Kinda creepy.
I'm still interested in this game but at least I am freeloading so I cant blame myself for supporting this semi scam.
holy shit I just realised that without pirate forums you literaly have NO WAY of knowing what you're buying when it comes to most of these dumbass in-development patreon games that rack in cash better than a programming job in the US...Damn I almost got got. You can't find anything about how this game actually plays through their website. Literally everything is behind a $4 paywall. All I could figure out is there might be plot, and there is sex, but everything else is a mystery. Could be a VN for all I know.
Not my fault though, there's this hit choking video someone posted from it.
Yup but the best part is we can't do shit about it. It is not just patreon but games in general - devs/publishers can promise whatever they fuck they want and not deliver with nothing more than image as cost. Our rights end where eligibility for refund/chargeback end.holy shit I just realised that without pirate forums you literaly have NO WAY of knowing what you're buying when it comes to most of these dumbass in-development patreon games that rack in cash better than a programming job in the US...
Look at the google results for this game. This is all you get before the youtube and porn video website links start swarming the results:
Most of this is plain false, and the only remotely useful information you get is from their patreon, but it's clowded by things like this:You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
which is a blatant and disrespectful LIE to anyone reading it.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Shameful. No wonder even porn enjoyers scuff at you when you mention porn games if this is the stuff that represents some of the most mainstream stuff.
I think people may experience cost sunk fallacy at this point. They invested so much they fear all that will go to waste if they stop and project fails because of that.Imagine how motivated Helius would get if the paypigs all canceled their subscription and told him he wouldn't get any more money until he started releasing actual new content instead of bullshots and concept art sourced on Fiverr.
I mean, the whole world in general would be better if brainless cash whales didn't existWhile it's fair to say that Helius and the rest of the clowns do a good job of obfuscating what is going on with the game, and that Patreon has no vested interest in allowing users to better gauge the status or quality of a project, much blame also lies with the users themselves.
How many Patreon subscribes are there that have been led around by the nose by the developers and never bothered to make them accountable, or just canceled their subscription?
I'm subscribed to a few content creators, but only ones with a history of releasing content on time. If they were to deviate from their schedule by too long I'd simply unsubscribe until they resumed posting content and made it worth my while again.
Imagine how motivated Helius would get if the paypigs all canceled their subscription and told him he wouldn't get any more money until he started releasing actual new content instead of bullshots and concept art sourced on Fiverr.
to think that the whole thing you described in your last paragraph is a game genre in this day and age - gatcha - is disguistingYup but the best part is we can't do shit about it. It is not just patreon but games in general - devs/publishers can promise whatever they fuck they want and not deliver with nothing more than image as cost. Our rights end where eligibility for refund/chargeback end.
What is full game ? When they press that release is button is that full game? Is DLC an update or is separate? Finally if you can technically unlock everything by playing then you get full game. Busters only let you skip the gameplay if you so desire so we don't break our promise!
At the fucking least Patreon should force them to update their page. Plenty of conflicting information already on there. This is capt tier :" + The full game along with all future season passes after the game enters early access. " - no longer mentions all future updates.
This is tier above "The full game along with the premium version of all future season passes after the game enters early access, which allows you to level up and unlock contents faster. " - oh so now you learn that there are multiple tiers of season passes. Is premium max or maybe there is elite, epic and legendary pass too ?
Search for BB code image scaling, there must be a way(Hmm can i scale linked image...)