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taboge9459

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Goddamn, how did I forget about the mystery sponsor companies that kept forcing Scamlius' hand into harder monetization? What even became of the mocap thing? Truly amusing.

You can find stuff about the sponsors in my last conversation with colress, way back here.

For the mocap there wasn't any, Helius posted some pole dancing vids a while ago that appeared to recycle keyframes from the original fallen doll. I tried to link a video but seems it got auto removed. Anyway you can download a the orginal Fallen Doll for a sneak peak at whats to come, most of what we've seen appears to be old recycled content maybe given a darker color scheme.
 
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You can find stuff about the sponsors in my last conversation with colress, way back here.
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Most impressive, thanks for the insight.
Don't worry, I remember the pole dancing recycled previews, they're part of the reason for which I'm less than hyped for the "new" content.

If we've learned something, is that we can expect anything from Scamlius, 75% of the time it being a lie.
 

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Looks like they deleted every single Steam thread on the topic of the pending update mind you. Doesn't seem like the sort of thing they'd do if the update was indeed still imminent, although it's hard to tell with these devs.
Damn, they did it in both the demo and beta threads too.
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Considering all we got out of this was a new payment tier system and how last minute it appears to be internally with animators and translators all missing deadlines, I wonder if the main point of this proposed date was just to claw back benefits from backers if he knew he couldn't meet it.
 

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Damn, they did it in both the demo and beta threads too.
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Considering all we got out of this was a new payment tier system and how last minute it appears to be internally with animators and translators all missing deadlines, I wonder if the main point of this proposed date was just to claw back benefits from backers if he knew he couldn't meet it.
Honestly at this point I don't think there's much point in ascribing motive to their actions, I don't think they're playing 5d chess they're eating the fucking pieces.

So far they've said they'd post an update to Steam when they have an ETA, then suddenly they have a date but no Steam update. They would push it out without testing, then it was late because they were testing it. Then they were uploading the new build to Steam, but there's no new/updated depot... then it was Steam's fault for a bit as they were awaiting approval, even though Steam don't require approval for patches and the private depot would show up instantly? Now it's because some of the dev team and/or volunteers missed deadlines?

It sounds more like Helius is just a pathological liar and the entire project is fuelled by chaos and mayhem. I think the only thing we can really surmise is that the game isn't in a particularly good state if they won't (or can't) push it out even with all the features they've cut.
 

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Honestly at this point I don't think there's much point in ascribing motive to their actions, I don't think they're playing 5d chess they're eating the fucking pieces.
Lol you may be right.

It sounds more like Helius is just a pathological liar and the entire project is fuelled by chaos and mayhem. I think the only thing we can really surmise is that the game isn't in a particularly good state if they won't (or can't) push it out even with all the features they've cut.
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At least the staff is starting to realize they're being taken advantage of hard. Multi-million dollar project, plus private non-disclosed funding, with a volunteer community manager and staff.
 
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Honestly at this point I don't think there's much point in ascribing motive to their actions, I don't think they're playing 5d chess they're eating the fucking pieces.

So far they've said they'd post an update to Steam when they have an ETA, then suddenly they have a date but no Steam update. They would push it out without testing, then it was late because they were testing it. Then they were uploading the new build to Steam, but there's no new/updated depot... then it was Steam's fault for a bit as they were awaiting approval, even though Steam don't require approval for patches and the private depot would show up instantly? Now it's because some of the dev team and/or volunteers missed deadlines?

It sounds more like Helius is just a pathological liar and the entire project is fuelled by chaos and mayhem. I think the only thing we can really surmise is that the game isn't in a particularly good state if they won't (or can't) push it out even with all the features they've cut.
The lack of a depot update really is the most damning, irrefutable proof that Helius is lying through his teeth. But if you were to post that on their Discord, you'd be banned faster than you can say 'oops'. And thus, the lemmings will continue to pour money into Helius's pocket.
 

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The lack of a depot update really is the most damning, irrefutable proof that Helius is lying through his teeth. But if you were to post that on their Discord, you'd be banned faster than you can say 'oops'. And thus, the lemmings will continue to pour money into Helius's pocket.
multiple year backer that can confirm, any questions regarding the legitimacy of this project will just have you out right banned. wouldnt be surprised at all if all 14k of their patrons are just people that dont realize they never canceled their 4$ support. anyone and everyone whos supported anything over the minimum 30$ for the game has likely been banned by now for questioning why their money is being used as shit tickets.
 

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>" The build is gonna launch in about 48 hours. Please note that a last minute delay of hours to a day is still possible as part of the game's network traffic now runs through Steam's CDN network, which may need some extra time to synchronize and is out of our control. "

>also the promise of a release regardless of bugs.

>120 hours ago

>absolute radio silence from devs and project management
 

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The lack of a depot update really is the most damning, irrefutable proof that Helius is lying through his teeth. But if you were to post that on their Discord, you'd be banned faster than you can say 'oops'. And thus, the lemmings will continue to pour money into Helius's pocket.
You have peaked my interest with the depot, I completely forgot we can see that. You need to check his closed beta one, there was an update 4 and 8 days ago.

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But the last build update before that was 13 months ago.

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So they've not tested a single line of code in their sandbox environment for the past 13 months. Which is kinda damning, because we ended at 0.4, this upcoming is being listed as 0.7, and at least 2 changes like the steam-patreon link, and the network rework would need to test through the dev sandbox in order for anyone to know it's working and "done".

This really does seem half assed and rushed in response to that pcgamer article. No wonder all his staff are missing internal deadlines, they probably only heard about this the same day the discord server did.
 
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The lack of a depot update really is the most damning, irrefutable proof that Helius is lying through his teeth. But if you were to post that on their Discord, you'd be banned faster than you can say 'oops'. And thus, the lemmings will continue to pour money into Helius's pocket.
This is so very sadly true. Damning proof indeed. Sucks too, looked like a great game then came all the nonsense and poor management that went along with it.
 
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>" The build is gonna launch in about 48 hours. Please note that a last minute delay of hours to a day is still possible as part of the game's network traffic now runs through Steam's CDN network, which may need some extra time to synchronize and is out of our control. "

>also the promise of a release regardless of bugs.

>120 hours ago

>absolute radio silence from devs and project management
Well that is easy
->27.02 = we will release ASAP regardless of bugs
-> 2.03 = ...............

The lack of a depot update really is the most damning, irrefutable proof that Helius is lying through his teeth. But if you were to post that on their Discord, you'd be banned faster than you can say 'oops'. And thus, the lemmings will continue to pour money into Helius's pocket.
No idea how that works but I imagine they could have separate fork for dev work that we can't see or smth.
 
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